Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2026-27 offseason part III

[Devil X]

Talk about bad luck, I feel like coming into the draft you always hear about teams in the top ten listening on those picks. This year where we are likely willing to move 12 a bunch of the top 10 picks are available or have been moved. Just makes our pick at 12 worth less because we are battling other teams who have higher picks and are willing to move it.

I’m sure Sunny is working on something we shall see.

 

[Devils Army]

Arvidsson feels like a drew stafford deal. I don't think sunny will pay what marchment can get, wisely.

 

[Devils Army]

Does anyone else feel like GMs have stopped hugging picks and prospects? Maybe its an analytics realization that only xyz% of picks turn into core players? Seems like the LA Rams and Golden Knights have sort of changed the meta and just constantly add through draft capital

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Does anyone else feel like GMs have stopped hugging picks and prospects? Maybe its an analytics realization that only xyz% of picks turn into core players? Seems like the LA Rams and Golden Knights have sort of changed the meta and just constantly add through draft capital

No. They’ve had a great idea of what % of picks become what for a long time and picks have been and still are valued based on that.

 

[Bcap88]

Casey switched agents

Guess he will be the next one moved lol

 

[MartyOwns]

would love to add Larkin. He is good friends with the Hughes bros and maybe means Quinn would eventually come here. I’d offer 12th, 35th, and Mercer. 30 years old and 8 aav

this is the most seller market that ever sellered. it’s going to take more than that.

 

[Bcap88]

Does anyone else feel like GMs have stopped hugging picks and prospects? Maybe it’s an analytics realization that only xyz% of picks turn into core players? Seems like the LA Rams and Golden Knights have sort of changed the meta and just constantly add through draft capital

Yea you are starting to see some of the established teams trying to extend there window with proven nhl players instead of trying to develop picks.

It makes sense when you are already a yearly contender

 

[Devs3cups]

Just remembered Jack's hat trick in March against the Rangers. His celly after his 2nd goal. He loves it here and he loves the org.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Feel like it needs to be said that those big swings aren’t what would make Sunny a good GM or not.

If he pays a premium price for Robertson and then hands him a huge contract that doesn’t tell me he’s a good difference making GM. If anything it does show that he can get a big deal over the line. And then you can evaluate him a bit on how well Robertson fits. But otherwise the GM willing to pay the most for an already elite talent doesn’t make you good at his job.

It’s gonna be the smaller moves that tell the story. What he’s able to find under the radar, whether he’s able to find creative deals and solutions.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Yea you are starting to see some of the established teams trying to extend there window with proven nhl players instead of trying to develop picks.

It makes sense when you are already a yearly contender

We’re not starting to see that. That’s quite literally always been a thing.

Teams that are good and in contention sacrifice futures and picks for immediate help while teams that suck and are rebuilding try to accumulate draft picks and young players to develop. Nothing new about that

 

[Devs3cups]

Feel like it needs to be said that those big swings aren’t what would make Sunny a good GM or not.

If he pays a premium price for Robertson and then hands him a huge contract that doesn’t tell me he’s a good difference making GM. If anything it does show that he can get a big deal over the line. And then you can evaluate him a bit on how well Robertson fits. But otherwise the GM willing to pay the most for an already elite talent doesn’t make you good at his job.

It’s gonna be the smaller moves that tell the story. What he’s able to find under the radar, whether he’s able to find creative deals and solutions.

That's a very fair point.

 

[My3Sons]

Does anyone else feel like GMs have stopped hugging picks and prospects? Maybe its an analytics realization that only xyz% of picks turn into core players? Seems like the LA Rams and Golden Knights have sort of changed the meta and just constantly add through draft capital

Yes but you don’t generally get core pieces from trades you need the picks you just have to use them well

 

[Bcap88]

We’re not starting to see that. That’s quite literally always been a thing.

Teams that are good and in contention sacrifice futures and picks for immediate help while teams that suck and are rebuilding try to accumulate draft picks and young players to develop. Nothing new about that

Not to the extent of multiple years out

Florida doesn’t have a first round pick till 2030

Colorodo doesn’t have one till 2029 and there are plenty of other teams that don’t have them for the next two years.

I think you are starting to see teams mortgage to future out than in the past

 

[Devils Trap]

Feel like it needs to be said that those big swings aren’t what would make Sunny a good GM or not.

If he pays a premium price for Robertson and then hands him a huge contract that doesn’t tell me he’s a good difference making GM. If anything it does show that he can get a big deal over the line. And then you can evaluate him a bit on how well Robertson fits. But otherwise the GM willing to pay the most for an already elite talent doesn’t make you good at his job.

It’s gonna be the smaller moves that tell the story. What he’s able to find under the radar, whether he’s able to find creative deals and solutions.

10/10 agree. Anyone can make the obvious deal. I want to see the smart deals, the ones no one else would make

Does anyone else feel like GMs have stopped hugging picks and prospects? Maybe its an analytics realization that only xyz% of picks turn into core players? Seems like the LA Rams and Golden Knights have sort of changed the meta and just constantly add through draft capital

Yes 100% IMO it has reached this part, mostly because GMs know that if you just keep using picks and keep contending that FAs and players will force your way over to them

I also think part of teams believe they can just get ALOT of good players from good scouting, UFA etc

And guess what, when the time comes to rebuild you have a ton of good players who will be worth picks and prospects etc

 

[Devs3cups]

I'd hate to just lose Seamus. I think he could really help us and our issues generating offense from the backend.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Not to the extent of multiple years out

Florida doesn’t have a first round pick till 2030

Colorodo doesn’t have one till 2029 and there are plenty of other teams that don’t have them for the next two years.

I think you are starting to see teams mortgage to future out than in the past

I don’t feel like looking into it much right now but I suspect that’s not true and has been similarly the case in the past.

The first and only team I looked at, the penguins, who won in 2016 and 17 went 4 years without a 1st round pick between 2015 and 18 and only had 1 in a 7 year span.

I think it’s possible it’s a little more prevalent right now especially with players forcing their way out but I don’t think it’s some new thing.

 

[Devils Trap]

I'd hate to just lose Seamus. I think he could really help us and our issues generating offense from the backend.

Id normally agree but with Kovy NMC or w/e he has, there just is no way we get Seamus playing time this year.

 

[Devils Trap]

I don’t feel like looking into it much right now but I suspect that’s not true and has been similarly the case in the past.

The first and only team I looked at, the penguins, who won in 2016 and 17 went 4 years without a 1st round pick between 2015 and 18 and only had 1 in a 7 year span.

I think it’s possible it’s a little more prevalent right now especially with players forcing their way out but I don’t think it’s some new thing.

I think its def more then usual. Teams are going 3+ years without FRPs.

But you also cant be that team doing it until you are dead certain you are a contender.

 

[Bcap88]

I don’t feel like looking into it much right now but I suspect that’s not true and has been similarly the case in the past.

The first and only team I looked at, the penguins, who won in 2016 and 17 went 4 years without a 1st round pick between 2015 and 18 and only had 1 in a 7 year span.

I think it’s possible it’s a little more prevalent right now especially with players forcing their way out but I don’t think it’s some new thing.

I think he’s trying to say it’s a little bit more prevalent amongst the contending teams. Yea you could have your outlier team forking over the mortgage but now it seems like there’s 3/4 teams doing it instead of just 1

 

[Captain3rdLine]

I think its def more then usual. Teams are going 3+ years without FRPs.

But you also cant be that team doing it until you are dead certain you are a contender.

Maybe it is more prevalent but were teams actually not doing 3+ years without 1st round picks before?

I just pointed out one that went 4 years and only had 1 in 7 years too.

 

[Devs3cups]

Id normally agree but with Kovy NMC or w/e he has, there just is no way we get Seamus playing time this year.

There will 100% be injuries, maybe they go 7th D from time to time. I understand the clauses and all that but we need more offense from the blueline and Casey has that. Find a way.

 

[Devils Trap]

There will absolutely be injuries, maybe they go 7th D from time to time. I understand the clauses and all that but we need more offense from the blueline and Casey has that. Find a way.

Im all in on giving him a chance, I think he has very nice tools although needs work obviously. I just dont see him being okay with waiting on an injury.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I literally just said Washington is making improvements lol, they added Kyrou and potentially Tuch. That's some pretty good moves for them that'll make the Metro tougher, hopefully the team will be ready. How was I overreacting lol.

You overreact more to people's comments than people are actually overreacting. Everything somewhat critical or going against the team's interest is an "overreaction" to you. It's unfortunate.

Stop crying, thats what is unfortunate. Every team is better then us, yhe Habs are winning the next five cups, woe is us.

We get it

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

If rumors are true that DAL went 14m and Jrob still declined, I dont see a world where we can even fit him under the cap.

Id prob pass, that price is getting ridiculous on top of assets needed

If it's true he declined 14m it's not a money issue and just wants out. He most likely would take slightly less on a team he wants to be with.

 

[Devils Trap]

If it's true he declined 14m it's not a money issue and just wants out. He most likely would take slightly less on a team he wants to be with.

I struggle to see where else he would want to go. He gets everything in DAL, with the preferable taxes, on a contender where he plays huge minutes, PP1 time etc.

I also just dont know if using all our assets and then giving a guy 14 million per year is a smart deal. Id get it if we did it, but it can also really blow up in our face