Billdo
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The back-pass gimmick is what happened.
But what I'm saying is Ward was constantly vilified yet he had a top 1/3 of the league PP last year. He's now gone and our PP is terrible. That's not coincidence.
The back-pass gimmick is what happened.
Omfg this again. The amount of people who do not realize that the majority of teams do this for years is beyond me...
The back pass must be done because it freezes the PK and makes them flat footed which creates an easy zone entry. Just because the Devil players struggle with it doesn’t mean its a flawed tactic. They have to get better at it. If you abandon that then you are left with skating into a line of players or just dumping it in which the SAME people would complain about.
Mueller is not a proven top 4 defenseman either.So a 5th defenseman over a top 4 defenseman... lol wtf
2 forecheckers going full speed going for the opposition blue line, the puck carrier crosses center and dumps it in as they hit the line……then go in and mash them deep…
oh wait….nevermind….too soft for that kind of ****
The horrible takes are how overrated Larsson is here.Wow! This is just a horrible take! I would be really happy if Shero finds left handed version of Larsson, who can play in the first pair with Severson or Vatanen. I'm also pretty sure that Hynes would be ready to play Butcher on the second pair if the Devils had better defensive dman options to the right side. Lovejoy is a good 3rd pair dman but nothing more.
Not sure if it was mentioned, but practice lines were the same as past game. Hynes also has the starter for tomorrow picked but hasn’t announced it yet until he talks to the goalies.
Again, I would figure Cory gets one of these next two games eventually but we will see what happens tomorrow.
Omfg this again. The amount of people who do not realize that the majority of teams do this for years is beyond me...
The back pass must be done because it freezes the PK and makes them flat footed which creates an easy zone entry. Just because the Devil players struggle with it doesn’t mean its a flawed tactic. They have to get better at it. If you abandon that then you are left with skating into a line of players or just dumping it in which the SAME people would complain about.
Not as much as this year. It is so predictable now
It's a lot harder to execute when defenders have become exponentially better skaters in the last decade or so. Worked when plodding guys like Daneyko were on every team, but now it's different.
Besides, Devils end up doing that often just with the drop pass after you force the PKers to stagnate and hopefully catch them flat footed.
Again, it depends who you have executing it. For example, Vatanen is horrendously bad at the drop pass, it makes me cringe every time he does it. Butcher/Hall/Palmieri on the other hand do it so smooth most of the time.
The back pass literally cannot be defended when done properly because the skater with the puck pushes the PK back into the blue line, when the back pass happens the PK players are now stalled out at the blue line and are flat footed which allows a skater to skate in or finds a player open at the blue line. If you try to defend a back pass it will allow more options to open up since there will only be three people back now. Idk why people continually think its stupid when its the best option. Morons at games literally yell “YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY”...
It’s like asking a NFL team to stop playing the screen because they suck at it. NO, you keep on doing it and improve on it because it is a critical play.
Ok then, have fun skating into a line of players who are moving their feet or dumping and chasing it.Yeah don't think so. Even if done properly big *if* Some things work well in theory but if a team can't execute well it doesn't mean ****
Mueller is not a proven top 4 defenseman either.
Just because he's been a top 4 guy for 20 games doesn't mean he's a top 4 guy right now. He wasn't a top 4 guy before this year.
A lot of this board also thought Santini was a top 4 or claimed he was at this time last year.
Don't get me wrong, Mueller has been a **** ton better than Santini was last year, but that's not my point.
The back pass literally cannot be defended when done properly because the skater with the puck pushes the PK back into the blue line, when the back pass happens the PK players are now stalled out at the blue line and are flat footed which allows a skater to skate in or finds a player open at the blue line. If you try to defend a back pass it will allow more options to open up since there will only be three people back now. Idk why people continually think its stupid when its the best option. Morons at games literally yell “YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY”...
It’s like asking a NFL team to stop playing the screen because they suck at it. NO, you keep on doing it and improve on it because it is a critical play.
Not one person claimed Santini was a top4. Ever. Everyone knew he was playing way out of position. Mueller is as well, because frankly Vatanan is a defensive giveaway horroshow, Greene has finally really hit the wall, and Severson cannot possibly be trusted with defensive responsibility. Mueller and Santini have been de facto #2s for us, and no one has ever claimed that they aren't playing WAY the hell out of where they should be playing (which is #5 on a good team.)
Hell, John Moore was our defacto #3 even in defensive situations and THAT alone should tell you something.
I can look up posts from last year that claimed Santini was already a ''Top 4 defenseman''.Not one person claimed Santini was a top4. Ever. Everyone knew he was playing way out of position. Mueller is as well, because frankly Vatanan is a defensive giveaway horroshow, Greene has finally really hit the wall, and Severson cannot possibly be trusted with defensive responsibility. Mueller and Santini have been de facto #2s for us, and no one has ever claimed that they aren't playing WAY the hell out of where they should be playing (which is #5 on a good team.)
Hell, John Moore was our defacto #3 even in defensive situations and THAT alone should tell you something.
Omfg this again. The amount of people who do not realize that the majority of teams do this for years is beyond me...
The back pass must be done because it freezes the PK and makes them flat footed which creates an easy zone entry. Just because the Devil players struggle with it doesn’t mean its a flawed tactic. They have to get better at it. If you abandon that then you are left with skating into a line of players or just dumping it in which the SAME people would complain about.
No. A back pass is not a drop pass. Those are 2 very different things and have the 2nd wave skating with speed right behind the front attack. That is what we did last year, we didn't hit the red line and suddenly turn around and throw it back into our own zone. That's what they're doing now EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE OPEN ICE to skate freely into the zone because it's been scripted to force the pass. The correct way is to skate to pressure and then if finding pressure back pass to the supporting wave. Now they don't even wait for true pressure, they just do it and the PK knows it's coming and fast attacks getting a turnover at best, a complete regroup and killing 20 seconds of the PP at worst. It works 1/3rd of the time I'd say and it's laughable they keep sticking to it. You have to mix it up as 1 of 3 distinct zone entries - straight skate in and pull up waiting for others to flood down low, the dump past the stand-up and beat them with speed to the puck, and then the back pass.
Not this again my butt. The difference between what other teams have done successfully with an outlet pass with speed following the primary puck carrier is so evident I can't believe I have to explain myself here.
San Jose is where Cory got ran out of the building last year and didn’t play again until after we clinched a playoff spot about 3 weeks later.I think they go with kk tomorrow and cory monday. Barring anything out of the ordinary, cory should have at least 1 start, if not 2 this week
This post is amateur league level stuff. Majority of the NHL does it cause it works.