Devils 2018-19 team discussion (news and notes) - camp begins!

[BenedictGomez]

I romantically long for the days when young players with 27 goals in 142 games didn't "hold out" like they're Brett Hull or Bobby Orr.

 

[Missionhockey]

How isn't the agent working in the players best interest?

The guy is one of the fastest straight ahead skaters in the league and just scored 19 goals playing only 12 minutes a night and hes a bull.

He scored more goals per 60 than Stamkos, Kuznetsov, Eberle, Matt Duchene, Scheifele, Braden Point, Kopitar, Rantanen, Riley Smith.. to name a few.

His agent should be getting him the biggest contract he can.

Totally agree. I think Wood's situation is a bit unique and players have short careers. It's the agent's job to fight for the best contract he can get.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Wood missing camp is bad for the Devils and Wood. Get him signed or move him.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I romantically long for the days when young players with 27 goals in 142 games didn't "hold out" like they're Brett Hull or Bobby Orr.

Agreed. But from Wood's perspective, he put up 19 last year with limited ice time. And as with any player, there's always a possibility he blows out his knee or worse, especially with his playstyle. Gotta try to get paid when you can. But at the same time, training camp has started...just sign. Missing time isn't going to help your cause.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

 

[HBK27]

Finally game night!

Looking forward to watching the Q-McLeod-Noesen line vs. the Rangers as well as the Smith-Vantanen and Yakovlev-Gryba pairings. Also curious to see how Lappin does.

Is the Montreal game going to be online anywhere?

 

[Davegarri]

Is the game going to be televised?

 

[Missionhockey]

Okay...whose fault is this?

Is it Wood's or is it his Agent?

Or Shero.

Not all the blame goes to the player side. We have plenty of capspace. But, using Clarkson as a comparable:

Clarkson's first contract was .0148 of the cap at the time he signed it. That carried an $837K AAV. Today, if that's what they're offering Wood, that would translate to a $1.176 AAV. I'd imagine the initial offer has got to be around there.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Is the game going to be televised?

One against the Rangers will be on MSG

 

[Lou is God]

I got a peek at the Montreal lineup and basically the kids I want to see tonight at the Rock are in that lineup:

Seney
Anderson
Studenic
Gignac

 

[OmNomNom]

Totally agree. I think Wood's situation is a bit unique and players have short careers. It's the agent's job to fight for the best contract he can get.

from a principle standpoint, sure. that's how the business is. but is he seeing it from a fair perspective (assuming that's how Ray is seeing it)?

Yeah, the PPG is pretty great, but he has such a small sample size. Does he have the stamina to do more with more ice time? is a "show me" contract not enough? and why not?

there's a certain point where holding out does more harm than good

 

[Lou is God]

Though I'm pleased Ty Smith is in the Rock lineup

 

[Missionhockey]

I like Wood, but some of you are starting to really overrate him.

If this was Nico, Butcher, or even Bratt doing this, it would be a different story.

I'm not worried, mostly because I think we can survive a few weeks w/o Wood. Besides, it would keep him fresher at the end of the year which is when we'll need him most because the games get tighter and more physical.

 

[Davegarri]

One against the Rangers will be on MSG

Perfect, thanks!

 

[Missionhockey]

from a principle standpoint, sure. that's how the business is. but is he seeing it from a fair perspective (assuming that's how Ray is seeing it)?

Yeah, the PPG is pretty great, but he has such a small sample size. Does he have the stamina to do more with more ice time? is a "show me" contract not enough? and why not?

there's a certain point where holding out does more harm than good

Well I guess that depends on the comparable they're using.

 

[OmNomNom]

I'm not worried, mostly because I think we can survive a few weeks w/o Wood. Besides, it would keep him fresher at the end of the year which is when we'll need him most because the games get tighter and more physical.

the funny thing is... if he doesn't play and we CAN survive without him (and even worse, if someone steps up and plays a comparable game), this actually HURTS his contract discussion.

 

[njdevil26]

I am actually getting quite annoyed that Wood isn't signed.

If he's asking for a Tom Wilson type contract... then I totally get it... But what's wrong with a two year 2.5 million per year deal?

 

[Ripshot 43]

I don’t understand any fan being upset with Wood or the Devils in this contract situation because we simply don’t have enough facts to know who to be angry with. Thus... I don’t stress on it.

 

[Zippy316]

Montreal game will be broadcast on TSN in Canada.

So there should be a stream somewhere.

 

[Triumph]

I romantically long for the days when young players with 27 goals in 142 games didn't "hold out" like they're Brett Hull or Bobby Orr.

Brendan Morrison 'held out' with 18 goals in 87 games. If anything, young players today are more inclined to just sign whatever they're handed.

 

[Triumph]

I am actually getting quite annoyed that Wood isn't signed.

If he's asking for a Tom Wilson type contract... then I totally get it... But what's wrong with a two year 2.5 million per year deal?

I don't know anything about this deal beyond what's been reported in the media. I doubt the Devils are offering 2.5M a year or really anything particularly close to that. My guess would be that their offer starts with a 1.

 

[GameSeven]

Brendan Morrison 'held out' with 18 goals in 87 games. If anything, young players today are more inclined to just sign whatever they're handed.

And he was traded 44 games later

 

[Triumph]

And he was traded 44 games later

Because he demanded a trade.

 

[Call Me Al]

id be surprised if it was as low as 1-something but i guess you never know. to me he’s worth 2.5-3 x 3 on a bridge deal

 

[GameSeven]

Because he demanded a trade.

Which does little to dispute a cynical point of view regarding young guys who hold out under modest, but promising terms.