Post-Game Talk: Devil IV

[savebyrichter94]

Speaking of fans......I am not jumping ship. We will rebound after getting ripped into shreds by GG. Expect line changes, they are STALE.

Anyone notice in the 2nd that GG played the kids "right after" the 4th line went off? I did. It was more obvious opening the 3rd for everybody to see.

I am gonna make a list of everyone jumping ship, and predicting we lose the next 2, or eventually this series. Shame on "those fans". Being a committed fan requires patience, and the continued hope and support of your team. Sorry, if I hurt any feelings. I am disappointed as well, but am finishing with...... LGR's, always.

Are you checking it twice? Gonna tell us who’s naughty or nice?

 

[McRanger92]

Laughable. MacKinnon? Pastranak? Draisaitl?

I could keep going, but Hughes ain't that.

Idk hes pretty damn good. It's not like he's getting much help either. Hischier and Mika are competing for who can do less and Meier and Bratt have basically putting on a ballet recital through 4 games.

 

[Machinehead]

The Devils speed isnt hurting us on offense. They are getting nothing 5v5, and Hughes has only scored when no one is near him on breakaways and on the PP. Stubborn insistence on overpassing and not playing below the net and in Schmid's crease is why we are losing. Thats the adjustment they need to make, because the Devils are content to make it a slog, and we are unfortunately once again playing to the nature that's been instilled in the team for years.

Their speed isn't hurt us on offense but I think our lack of speed is hurting us on offense. If the Devils are executing and moving the puck well, I don't think we can get to the dirty areas consistently before the puck is gone.

Speed is not necessarily rushes and constant offense. It's checking too.

The Devils are content to make it a slog because if we put the puck along the walls, there's three of them there before we react.

It's not just "try harder." We don't move quickly enough to play the game you want them to play.

I don't think this can be adjusted. We don't have the speed to forecheck and we don't have the transition game to play with skill effectively. This is the roster we have and this is what they're going to produce offensively at even strength. Continue to play tight and fix the powerplay. A single powerplay goal in either game and we're up 3-1.

 

[Ruggs225]

Agree, the Devils didn't do much of anything. They had 2 good chances and scored on both. The Rangers are beating themselves.

Meh the GwG is one shesty should stop. Granted we need to score more than one goal. But that was not a good goal to give up. It wasnt a “bad” goal, but one that shesty should stop more often than not.

 

[McRanger92]

Their speed isn't hurt us on offense but I think our lack of speed is hurting us on offense. If the Devils are executing and moving the puck well, I don't think we can get to the dirty areas consistently before the puck is gone.

Speed is not necessarily rushes and constant offense. It's checking too.

The Devils are content to make it a slog because if we put the puck along the walls, there's three of them there before we react.

It's not just "try harder." We don't move quickly enough to play the game you want them to play.

I don't think this can be adjusted. We don't have the speed to forecheck and we don't have the transition game to play with skill effectively. This is the roster we have and this is what they're going to produce offensively at even strength. Continue to play tight and fix the powerplay. A single powerplay goal in either game and we're up 3-1.

I agree with that. I would say it's less about getting players who are physically fast, although that would be helpful. Too me it's about processing faster and playing faster. The downfall of this team has been that they like to slow the play down on offense, and that's very counterproductive in these type of games.

 

[Kovalev27]

Speaking of fans......I am not jumping ship. We will rebound after getting ripped into shreds by GG. Expect line changes, they are STALE.

Anyone notice in the 2nd that GG played the kids "right after" the 4th line went off? I did. It was more obvious opening the 3rd for everybody to see.

I am gonna make a list of everyone jumping ship, and predicting we lose the next 2, or eventually this series. Shame on "those fans". Being a committed fan requires patience, and the continued hope and support of your team. Sorry, if I hurt any feelings. I am disappointed as well, but am finishing with...... LGR's, always.

Oh lord. Give me a break

The team was garbage on home ice. That doesn’t sit well. Never will with anyone. Not come playoff time. So making a list of fans as your big take away stop. I’ve got a list of guys that have no showed in this series. That’s the list we should worry about.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

The Devils are awful in their own end. Can't defend and love to give the puck away, it's obvious. This team refused to get pucks deep and forecheck, so frustrating.

 

[NikC]

I must have been crazy thinking this team would ever want to make things easy on themselves...

Game 3 was it... they needed to win game 3. You can't have 5 PPs and not score. Panarin lost that game for us.

Yesterday was dog$hit, all game. Best of 3 now, so hopefully they can put it behind them.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Meh the GwG is one shesty should stop. Granted we need to score more than one goal. But that was not a good goal to give up. It wasnt a “bad” goal, but one that shesty should stop more often than not.

I think it was a bad goal actually, it was a leaky goal. Barely snuck under his arm, he needs to be tighter there.

It's an atrocious goal when you factor in the circumstances.

 

[Machinehead]

I agree with that. I would say it's less about getting players who are physically fast, although that would be helpful. Too me it's about processing faster and playing faster. The downfall of this team has been that they like to slow the play down on offense, and that's very counterproductive in these type of games.

We really need both.

I'm ok with a guy like Panarin slowing the game down in a vacuum, but that's useless unless he has options driving fast to the net.

That's not to absolve him of blame and there's other things he could do besides that, but that's just the reality.

Point is, put Panarin aside for a second. Too many other guys on this team slow the game down and they're not Panarin. Kakko comes to mind. He could be super effective, especially in this environment, if he just got the puck, cut to the slot, and either let it rip or passed it, like, yesterday. Instead, he curls around again trying to be Panarin and loses it. He's not fast, but he's a tank, and he could play fast.

Trocheck is another one in this series. Good play on the goal last night, but way too much carrying the puck in this series for a guy who was straight ahead all year. I think when he's with Panarin he gets into that slow mindset which is why I prefer Kreider-Trocheck-Kane.

Tarasenko doesn't have the ability he did when he was younger but he gets to concept of shitting and getting off the pot.

I think we need to add better puck movers on D and more guys fleet of foot in general, but I agree that some of the horses we already have could be taught to play faster. And Panarin just has to do something else when it's not there. You're good enough.

 

[Guyute]

The Devils are awful in their own end. Can't defend and love to give the puck away, it's obvious. This team refused to get pucks deep and forecheck, so frustrating.

Fancy boys always think they're the greatest. We only allow ourselves to score fancy goals, which is why every series goes the distance even though we should win in 5. I didn't see anyone crash the net last night.

It's been this way for years and they refuse to adapt.

 

[Do you want ants]

I get that this team will never do things the easy way (through multiple cores), but I really thought they’d take 1 of the 2 games at home. Win Thursday and put the pressure back on them. Hopefully Trouba threw a helmet at someone or something in the locker room.

Also, for the love of god, stop letting them run Shesty with zero retribution. You don’t have to take a penalty to do it.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Their speed isn't hurt us on offense but I think our lack of speed is hurting us on offense. If the Devils are executing and moving the puck well, I don't think we can get to the dirty areas consistently before the puck is gone.

Speed is not necessarily rushes and constant offense. It's checking too.

The Devils are content to make it a slog because if we put the puck along the walls, there's three of them there before we react.

It's not just "try harder." We don't move quickly enough to play the game you want them to play.

I don't think this can be adjusted. We don't have the speed to forecheck and we don't have the transition game to play with skill effectively. This is the roster we have and this is what they're going to produce offensively at even strength. Continue to play tight and fix the powerplay. A single powerplay goal in either game and we're up 3-1.

With all due respect, bullshit!

This was literally said of us last year against the Canes, and then we head stomped them Game 7! And unlike the Canes, the Devils really only played well last night, and even that isn't up to their standards.

We went from turning the crease into Casa del Kreider to no one even sniffing the crease, shots that are nowhere near target, overpassing themselves into oblivion, or as Panarin did in the middle of the ice, to virtually no one (How many times has he coughed up the puck?), and then sprinkle in boneheaded things like whatever the f*** Laf was doing: if the Devils came out flying like they did in the regular season, you'd have a point, but this is more of the Rangers shooting themselves in the foot, tossing the gun to the Devils and telling them there still is another round for the other foot.

 

[BleedBlueNYR]

I’m tired of going after big free agents signing them to crazy contracts, and they disappear on the biggest stage. Rather go through a longer rebuild and draft and develop our players, then add the missing pieces we need to contend.

How has drafting and developing worked out for us? Not great.

 

[Mandar]

no panic moves needed....just need to raise the levels.

However...if you can bench KK in game 6 against TB, no reason that Laf cant sit on Thursday. Of the three on that line, he's doing the least. Would we be losing anything by getting Brodz into the lineup for one game on that line?

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

This feels like that weird period in between TDL and end of season when the team couldn’t score because they couldn’t break the puck out and deferred to Kane.

Miller and Trouba pairing have left a lot to be desired.

 

[McRanger92]

This feels like that weird period in between TDL and end of season when the team couldn’t score because they couldn’t break the puck out and deferred to Kane.

Miller and Trouba pairing have left a lot to be desired.

Miller has been stuck in neutral since he spit in Doughty's face. Doesnt skate or hit hard enough and relies too much on his poke check to make up for it. Disappointing end to the season for a player with star potential.

 

[Kovalev27]

The game winning goal was a bad goal at a bad time for shesty. But it felt inevitable. Never felt like we were going to win that game. Even when we tied it

 

[The New Russian Five]

I agree with that. I would say it's less about getting players who are physically fast, although that would be helpful. Too me it's about processing faster and playing faster. The downfall of this team has been that they like to slow the play down on offense, and that's very counterproductive in these type of games.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Maybe this team feeds better off a road crowd. I can guarantee you the Roc will be louder whether it’s from Devils fans or Rangers fans on Thursday night.

MSG was a huge disappointment and let down for these past two home games. Unfortunately, I would put a ton of it on the hardcore fans being priced out. Being at the game Saturday, it seemed the only loud ones were in the upper 200s past rows like 15. Even lower row 200s were $210 face value, I think. With the 100s, forget about it. The Garden is too concerned handing those tickets to celebrities to blast them on the big screen.

Its not that, I was at the game last night. It has nothing to do with the fans. We were ready to go crazy in there. But they showed nothing. Did nothing. played with no heart, no emotion, no anything. LIFELESS. WHat the hell would we cheer about? A fluff shot against Schmid? It was an embarrassing effort, and frankly im embarressed to call myself a rangers fan after the past two home games.

MSG is a place that will go on fire, if there is something to actual cheer about,.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

We hadn't picked high in the draft in ages and then in 2019 we win the lottery but only get 2nd. The Devils get first and get an actual superstar and we get a 3rd line winger. The we win the first overall pick the next season and we get another 3rd line grinder and an actual superstar goes a couple picks later.

Coming to terms with the fact that Kakko and Lafreniere suck and this is what they are is just painful. Maybe they'll have a career year each where they score 60 points or something but these are not star players. These are not players that are ever going to drive the bus of any team they're on. I'm also not willing to lay the blame entirely on the organization like many are.

Say what you will about development but the kids have gotten chance after chance after chance. We complain about the kid line being set in stone, but all of them have gotten plenty of chances up the lineup and none have deserved to stick. We contort our analysis to think that they do but that's because we want them to, not because they're good enough. Kakko would rather just circle back and dipsy doodle and curl away from the slot until he loses the puck instead of cutting in and shooting, you know the type of thing that effective NHL players do and Lafreniere is just out there getting half assed cardio in until he slams into the boards next to a defenseman who passed the puck away 5 seconds ago. Puck on Laf's tape top of the slot with a chance to walk in for a chance and it goes under his stick and out of the zone. That's a lack of attention to detail.

 

[McRanger92]

The game winning goal was a bad goal at a bad time for shesty. But it felt inevitable. Never felt like we were going to win that game. Even when we tied it

Definitely a softy, but hard to blame him when the first soft goal he gives up is in the 3rd period of Game 4, when your team hasn't been able to muster any offense in 2 games.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

How has drafting and developing worked out for us? Not great.

The franchise never committed to that though. They tried to rebuild on the fly.

 

[McRanger92]

We hadn't picked high in the draft in ages and then in 2019 we win the lottery but only get 2nd. The Devils get first and get an actual superstar and we get a 3rd line winger. The we win the first overall pick the next season and we get another 3rd line grinder and an actual superstar goes a couple picks later.

Coming to terms with the fact that Kakko and Lafreniere suck and this is what they are is just painful. Maybe they'll have a career year each where they score 60 points or something but these are not star players. These are not players that are ever going to drive the bus of any team they're on. I'm also not willing to lay the blame entirely on the organization like many are.

Say what you will about development but the kids have gotten chance after chance after chance. We complain about the kid line being set in stone, but all of them have gotten plenty of chances up the lineup and none have deserved to stick. We contort our analysis to think that they do but that's because we want them to, not because they're good enough. Kakko would rather just circle back and dipsy doodle and curl away from the slot until he loses the puck instead of cutting in and shooting, you know the type of thing that effective NHL players do and Lafreniere is just out there getting half assed cardio in until he slams into the boards next to a defenseman who passed the puck away 5 seconds ago.

The Kids would be much better if the Rangers never had Panarin. If you pull that thread, every problem with the team at a micro & macro level is tied to it.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

The game winning goal was a bad goal at a bad time for shesty. But it felt inevitable. Never felt like we were going to win that game. Even when we tied it

The only time it felt like maybe we could was that next shift , crowd is going crazy and Trocheck has the puck in the slot and a clear shot and what does he do? Misses the net by 7 feet wide. Yet again, we don't even force their goalie to make a save.