A downfall with year over year improvement, simple methods and numbers are confusing people.. interesting.
Detroit Redwings Downfall
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Dotter
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I just wanted to show what you said was wrong that it looked like they were going to draft 7th overall, and your team would be drafting ahead of the Sens. Nothing more to it.
If it’s so early in the season as you say, why even bring it up
I didn't create the thread. Just pointing out that all bottom 5 Atlantic Division teams are trying to outsuck each other. That includes OTT and Sabres. Sabre fans have to come to grip, but OTT fans seem in denial. It might because they can't come to terms with old man Ullmark getting such a HUGE and overpaid contract.... all while sucking.
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dirtydanglez
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taylor hall had more 1st overall picks to work with.
A great position?
They had a 1C and nothing else of real value.
They had top prospects of…. Zadina, Veleno, Cholowski
They were also a near cap team
What the hell are you talking about? Hahah
Yes the younger player in Raymond who was drafted higher and who’s scored more is definitely a lower ceiling
They were getting outshot 7-2 by the Sharks tonight. Once again, not ready to play.
If Detroit loses this game and Yzerman doesn't fire Lalonde immediately, then he's not a serious GM.
If Detroit loses this game and Yzerman doesn't fire Lalonde immediately, then he's not a serious GM.
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
Kasper has a sick shot. Yzerman said after he drafted Marco Kasper he has untapped offensive upside.
Lol. They're about to lose to San Jose (who has 10 more shots than they do).
It would be a slap in the face to the fans if Lalonde is allowed to coach this team any longer.
It would be a slap in the face to the fans if Lalonde is allowed to coach this team any longer.
They had a 1C, some young forwards, and a young top 4 defenseman instead of cope about how some prospect that isn't scoring much is going to transform into a top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman or hanging your only hopes on Augustine and Buchelnikov. Holland wasn't perfect but he did an above average job with what he had, you'd think Yzerman would have more hits by random chance than he does.A great position?
They had a 1C and nothing else of real value.
They had top prospects of…. Zadina, Veleno, Cholowski
They were also a near cap team
What the hell are you talking about? Hahah
Dotter
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I mean he has 5 on the team right now playing...
Mazur is injured, but he is NHL ready, so that's 6 right there. Not including ASP, Cossa, Danielsson, and MBN.
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WarriorofTime
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Outshot 34-20 against the present day San Jose Sharks. Pretty lucky to escape with an OTL and take only a half loss versus a full loss. 0-2-1 on a California road trip against crummy teams and fall to 7-9-2 in the ninth season after last making the postseason. It's Year 5 of the GM/Year 3 of the Head Coach. But Kasper did score at least.
Dotter
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I mean you can go by any real metric, most will say the Wings are a bottom 5-10 team.
cjm502
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Buchelnikov looking like an absolute friggen stud, and you have to think unless Lombardi's development completely stagnates he is going to get a chance at the NHL as well. In the next two years there should be a lot of roster turnover, and if they still suck then watching the young guns get to play will make it suck a little less for us fans.
Just Linda
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It's hard to say that Eichel is riding his second overall hype when he's regularly been a point per game player on good and bad teams, when he had 26 pts in 22 games in the playoffs as the top centre on the Stanley Cup winner, and when he's regularly among the lead leaders in defensive impact.
Points tell one story, watching them tells more of it. One is an impact top centre and has proven it, the other is Larkin.
logan5
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The Red Wings organization did everything you are suppose to in order to rebuild fairly quickly. They have had a ton of 1st and 2nd round draft picks the last 7 drafts - 10 in the 1st round and 15 in the 2nd round. You should easily be able to build at least a strong play-off team by now with that, if not an elite team.
The obvious major failure here is drafting. It has been monumentally bad.
The obvious major failure here is drafting. It has been monumentally bad.
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Larkin is a 1C on a weak team. Larkin would be a 2C on a team with Eichel, which is the role best suited for him. The Wings are missing a high end 1C and 1D.
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Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
Go spend an hour researching, do a redraft every season from 2019-2024 and select any player that Yzerman didn't; no Seider, no Raymond, no Edvinsson and tell me how you did.
I am giving you the pleasure of hindsight 20/20 and I'll bet the farm you still come up short.
Bad drafting from 2015, 2016, especially 2017, and 2018 is hurting us so much right now.
Ulysses31
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It's not really Lalonde that's the problem. The team sucks. The coach is getting the output that should be reasonably expected of this roster.
At some points Wings fans are gonna have to admit Yzerman doesn't have it. I mean, it's 3 years later than anyone else with a some semblance of foresight and reason, but still.
