Rumor: Detroit - Buffalo?

SirloinUB

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Veleno for Quinn as a change of scenery trade?

Probably favors Detroit too much but its hard to imagine something of greater significance between these two teams
 
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Fjordy

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Veleno for Quinn as a change of scenery trade?

Probably favors Detroit too much but its hard to imagine something of greater significance between these two teams
No thx. Quinn more value for us, than Veleno. I saw some rumors about Rasmussen, I have no idea where they came from, or maybe our AGM was even looking at Philly players.
 
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FriendlyGhost92

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No thx. Quinn more value for us, than Veleno. I saw some rumors about Rasmussen, I have no idea where they came from, or maybe our AGM was even looking at Philly players.

Rasmussen is frustrating as f***. One of those guys where you feel like there's another level to his game, but he's never reached it. And now he's 25 and you start coming to grips with the fact that he probably never will.
 

Fjordy

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Rasmussen is frustrating as f***. One of those guys where you feel like there's another level to his game, but he's never reached it. And now he's 25 and you start coming to grips with the fact that he probably never will.
Did you expect him to be a big, physical top 6 forward for you? I just see him more as a third line for us to replace Greenway who got injured, I don't know if Rasmussen would be a good fit for that role.
 

Fjordy

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I wonder if something like Rass + wallinder + 3rd rounder would be enough to get Byram
It doesn't look very attractive, although I don't know much about Wallinder. Byram is still a pretty important player in our line up and we could look for a replacement for Greenway elsewhere without giving up on Byram.
 

datsyukfan

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No need to wonder that's awful for Buffalo. Byram is playing 23 minutes a night for them. Not a single one of those pieces moves the needle for them.
Rass is a big solid 3rd line type guy that can be hard to play against, NHL teams will value a guy like Rass. Wallinder is a fairly highly regarded almost NHL ready prospect. I would probably say a 2nd rounder makes this deal look better.
 

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Rass is a big solid 3rd line type guy that can be hard to play against, NHL teams will value a guy like Rass. Wallinder is a fairly highly regarded almost NHL ready prospect. I would probably say a 2nd rounder makes this deal look better.
So your offer centers around a 3rd liner and a good defensive prospect for a defenseman playing top pairing minutes (and doing pretty well) who's also in his prime. That's terrible. You'd be outbid by half the league if Byram were put on the block.
 

Fjordy

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Rass is a big solid 3rd line type guy that can be hard to play against, NHL teams will value a guy like Rass. Wallinder is a fairly highly regarded almost NHL ready prospect. I would probably say a 2nd rounder makes this deal look better.
So we have to trade our 1RD for a third liner and a defensive prospect, which we also have quite a few of. That's just bad for us.
 

FriendlyGhost92

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Rass is a big solid 3rd line type guy that can be hard to play against, NHL teams will value a guy like Rass. Wallinder is a fairly highly regarded almost NHL ready prospect. I would probably say a 2nd rounder makes this deal look better.

Ask yourself if you would trade Edvinsson for that package...

Byram isn't as good as Edvinsson, but that package doesn't get you close to Edvinsson. So it's not like it's a whole lot better for Byram.
 

Petes2424

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More fuel to the fire:


Justin Holl it is!!!

Who’s in Buffalo tonight? Detroit has a scout who lives in Niagara area on the Canadian side, but he’s more of an amateur scout. He’s NOT in Buffalo tonight. He’s in Ottawa.

Anyway.

Byrum would be the guy Detroit would likely be after. He’s what they need most right now, as they’re desperate for a 3rd Dman who can consistently create pace, and get the puck where it needs to go. It makes the most sense from a Detroit perspective.

If it’s Cozens, that means all Detroit is doing, is pushing forward their progress quicker, than waiting for the production from Kasper and Danielson in 2-3 years. I’d assume one would likely be in any deal for him, with something else. Not sure how that makes Buffalo any better today though??

Someone who does make sense for the Sabres is Michael Rasmussen. I’ve been hearing teams are sniffing around him lately, because many believe he’s gonna become a core player for the next 5-7 years and he’s very hard to play against. At 25, 25-32 is Prime age for big forwards to start producing and we see all the little things finally happening for him. If he is in a Top 6, good bet he’ll produce. He’s never gonna be a PPG player but he should settle into a very hard to play against 40-50 point player in a Top 6 role, who you can move into other roles for matchups.

That’s who makes Buffalo harder to play against. Guys like him. I still think he ends up in Calgary or Winnipeg (if he’s moved) because he doesn’t have trade protection, they’re both looking, and his contract is great.. Was asked about him at a Medicine Hat game when I was out there recently, because supposedly his name had come up in Calgary AGAIN. Who had interest in him during Hanifin negotiations before last season.

Every manager would have interest. I just don’t know why Detroit would move him now, after all the years developing him. Just as it looks like it’s gonna happen for him.

He’s the exact type that Tampa is always after around the deadline and pays stupid prices for.

Managers love these big forwards. They just hate waiting 5-6 years for them to develop. It’s why we see teams go after them around 25-26 though. If there’s one to go after this year, it’s Rasmussen. Wins battles on the walls, has hands in front of the net and creates space for skilled line mates.

Lalonde used him horribly. He’d put him up with Larkin and Raymond, the line kicks back into gear, then he’d put him right back into a defensive role.

Teams and scouts see this stuff. They also know he creates space for skilled players too. Something you don’t see on scoresheets.

Thats the type of guys Buffalo should be after. Guys that are hard to play against, and do all the little things that win hockey games.

The stat chasers are gonna blow a gasket if Rasmussen is traded. They won’t be able to comprehend how he got so much in return.

I fully expect if he stays in Detroit, McLellan will put him in the Top 6 for an extended period of time, and see what type of production they get.

In Buffalo, they’d then have Thompson and Rasmussen to create space. It would make them harder to play against and that’s the goal with any trade regarding Buffalo.

They’ll need more than that, but it’d be a good start. Two or 3 guys brought in, who do all the little things and make teams pay the price, Buffa will start winning hockey games.
 

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