Post-Game Talk: Dethroned and exiled to the nights watch

[Brother Mouzone]

 

[zlev]

the team cant even go out there and have a competitive game. with anyone. only against the absolute worst teams do they even have a chance. it's the worst team i've ever watched in 30 years of being a Rangers fan. the late 90's/early 00's teams were more fun than this.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Glad I missed this game. Another joke performance it seems. Rotten core continues to be...rotten.

 

[Charlie Conway]

That's just not true. The torts and AV teams were not easy to play against at all.

What we need...just play this during every intermission.

 

[duhmetreE]

this is beyond coaching change. I still think it needs to happen now but it also needs a major roster shakeup

I’d do everything I could to try and get Mika to waive. Start with Lindgren and get a bidding war for Kreider.

No one should be off limits

 

[Grifter3511]

To me, they've never really been a "team" -- just a "collection of players". Most were brought in for their "skill" -- can't think of one role players who was signed or traded for.

We had one that we had signed, but then we wanted to get rid of him and he didn't want to go so we did him dirty.

 

[Machinehead]

A large part of me says if the roof on fire let the motherf***er burn.

A small part of me is sad that Sam's last season won't be any fun.

 

[duhmetreE]

If you were to tell me they have been poisoning the team with neurotoxins, I’d believe it

They literally can’t do anything well

 

[CLW]

the team cant even go out there and have a competitive game. with anyone. only against the absolute worst teams do they even have a chance. it's the worst team i've ever watched in 30 years of being a Rangers fan. the late 90's/early 00's teams were more fun than this.

This is because Drury fixed nothing from the day he took over until now. He tried to paper over the cracks on the roster by spending massive amounts of trade ammo but it was always futile. Now the core is too old (Kreider), lost (Zib), waning (Bread). The young guys have NEVER been even close to be allowed to even practice for taking over the reins (see immutable PP1). Add a series of brutal choices for HQ and here we are.

Drury has reaped what he sowed. Mr hockey genius President and GM is now firmly up shit creek. It is far beyond his capability to fix this.

 

[turcotte8]

Turned it off after the 1st period, looks like I made the right move.

 

[noncents]

I'm sick of Kakko. Let him be someone else's pet project.

I'd give Laffy more reign on this team. See if he excels after a year. If not, just make the trade with Montreal.

this is the essence of being a Rongite.


You want fire, you want compete, you want physicality? Look at the kind of game Lafreniere is playing. Forget about who you think he could be. He's telling you who he is. He's currently chickenshit.

It's not permanent. But he needs to find his balls and start leading this team. He's the one being paid to.

 

[LokiDog]

The thing is, I think a decent contingent of our hardcore fans (the types who visit HF, not the average NYer) have felt that this team has genuinely been not good enough, very flawed, possibly even “bad” for a long time IN SPITE of the results they’ve gotten. It’s hard to really aggressively take that stance and die on that hill when the team is making the ECF or winning the President’s Trophy, but I feel that it has been a sentiment that’s been in the back of our minds for a long while, even when the team was getting good results on paper.

One of the best ways I can think of to describe it is kind of like the Giants’ Super Bowl wins… everyone was ecstatic but we also all kind of knew we had absolutely NO business actually being champions. This Rangers team is the same; it’s impossible not to enjoy the ride and the hype when your team is actually on that deep playoff run, but deep down, you sort of know we’re not supposed to be there.

In essence, what I’m saying is that this isn’t entirely a “sudden development”. The team has been flawed and lacking for a long time but has always managed to mask that with elite goaltending, elite power play, etc. Now some key pieces have lost a step or become resigned and frustrated, and the results have finally begun to match the actual quality of play we’ve been seeing (not always, but enough to be alarmed and know the team had big time flaws) for a while.

 

[Tob]

More work to do Dreary! Get rid of more baggage!

 

[Row I Goon]

Even McDavid would turn into a dud journeyman dreamer at the Garden.

 

[Boris Zubov]

The thing is, I think a decent contingent of our hardcore fans (the types who visit HF, not the average NYer) have felt that this team has genuinely been not good enough, very flawed, possibly even “bad” for a long time IN SPITE of the results they’ve gotten. It’s hard to really aggressively take that stance and die on that hill when the team is making the ECF or winning the President’s Trophy, but I feel that it has been a sentiment that’s been in the back of our minds for a long while, even when the team was getting good results on paper.

One of the best ways I can think of to describe it is kind of like the Giants’ Super Bowl wins… everyone was ecstatic but we also all kind of knew we had absolutely NO business actually being champions. This Rangers team is the same; it’s impossible not to enjoy the ride and the hype when your team is actually on that deep playoff run, but deep down, you sort of know we’re not supposed to be there.

In essence, what I’m saying is that this isn’t entirely a “sudden development”. The team has been flawed and lacking for a long time but has always managed to mask that with elite goaltending, elite power play, etc. Now some key pieces have lost a step or become resigned and frustrated, and the results have finally begun to match the actual quality of play we’ve been seeing (not always, but enough to be alarmed and know the team had big time flaws) for a while.

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I was typing my reply as you posted this. We've been talking about this offline for 2 1/2 years.

 

[grachevsceiling]

Even McDavid would turn into a dud journeyman dreamer at the Garden.

Yeah this is a frequent daymare I have. But no, I don’t think so. If he did, maybe the league would shame Dolan into selling.

 

[Tob]

You guys are putting too much stock into a game that doesn’t offer much insight, when neither Doughty nor Miller was available for Miller to spit on Doughty. It’s like the battle of the Hudson where Fatso and Henrik were both backing up.

 

[Mr Mxmzptlk]

We had one that we had signed, but then we wanted to get rid of him and he didn't want to go so we did him dirty.

Who would that be?

 

[Mike in Houston]

Oh shut up Trocheck. All this talk. Talk. Talk. Talk.

That's all you guys do good.

 

[Grifter3511]

Who would that be?

Goodrow. I'm not saying I wish we still had him. Just that he's a guy who wasn't brought in to score goals but to be a gritty, hard worker. Which he was. He was just paid too much to do it.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

this is the essence of being a Rongite.


You want fire, you want compete, you want physicality? Look at the kind of game Lafreniere is playing. Forget about who you think he could be. He's telling you who he is. He's currently chickenshit.

It's not permanent. But he needs to find his balls and start leading this team. He's the one being paid to.

Except we've seen brialliance with Laffy and people have been wanting him on PP1 since last season.

Outside of being a poor man's Callahan/Dubinsky, you think Kakko's trajectory has been better than Laf's?

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

This was the game my wife bought me tickets for my birthday to go to lol

 

[LOFIN]

At this point Drury really needs to ask the room who wants out and accommodate anyone who does not matter who they are.

Lindgren doesn’t get a say. See what you can do with the NMC crew.

The thing is, I unfortunately feel a guy like Zibanejad is just waiting to outlast Drury, because contractually he can.

 

[Boris Zubov]

This was the game my wife bought me tickets for my birthday to go to lol

 

[Mugless]

I was contemplating the fact that this is currently a playoff team and something melted in my head.