Waived: [DET] G Ville Husso waived by the Red Wings (cleared)

[Hobnobs]

Wow. That is a terrible take. Watch more than highlights. Binnington has been the bright spot on the team for the past two season. Easily the reason we didn’t pick in the top 5 for the past two years.

I watch more than highlights. My point still stands.

 

[deca guard]

This is all great but I don’t see how it changes the end result that he ended up with a shitty contract.

what are gms supposed to be able to predict the future and know if players will get injured , or perform as well in a different system and with different player talents ? your talking non sense , EVERY GM SINCE DAY ONE ENDS UP WITH BAD CONTRACTS . and many times gms are forced to give out a bad contract because its the best option avaliable to them to improve team . you think you know what your talking about but you dont

 

[BlueSeal]

As a at-times-supercritical Blues fan, especially when it came to the unpopular opinion of being down on Husso at the time, I feel like this:

NSFW But Funny AF

 

[nbwingsfan]

Blown out of the water? Benning made several good moves as a GM, his trade for JT trump's any trade Stevie made. Drafting is similar between the two with Benning ahead since his picks were part of a core that won the pacific but things could change.

You also left out a bunch of other pieces like Garland an a bunch of contract dumps and retention.

You purposely being misleading hardly blew anything out of the water, except maybe some credibility lol

Drafting is the same?

Juolevi and Virtanen…

 

[WayTooCold]

We in Red Wings never draft Finns. Only Russians and Swedes.

 

[1specter]

Man this guy had one fluke season and really cashed out. Husso owes Berube

 

[Puckluck]

Husso had a shutout in his AHL debut. That will be good for his confidence going forward.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

We in Red Wings never draft Finns. Only Russians and Swedes.

No Finnish forwards or goalies anyway. They have drafted four Finnish defensemen in recent years but none of the four have reached the NHL club to this point.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

We in Red Wings never draft Finns. Only Russians and Swedes.

Valtteri Filppula played the 7th most games in NHL history for a player from Finland and was drafted by the Wings. They don't draft a ton over the years, that seems to have more to do with how the board is aligning at times though.

 

[SensontheRush]

what are gms supposed to be able to predict the future and know if players will get injured , or perform as well in a different system and with different player talents ? your talking non sense , EVERY GM SINCE DAY ONE ENDS UP WITH BAD CONTRACTS . and many times gms are forced to give out a bad contract because its the best option avaliable to them to improve team . you think you know what your talking about but you dont

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Yes, that's what seperates the good GMs from the bad GMs. Bad GMs sign bad contracts based on poor assessments of their team and of the player in question.

It's simply not true that every GM ends up with bad contracts.

 

[Fist of Fury]

Now he can focus on PRONSTARS full time.

 

[mattihp]

Valtteri Filppula played the 7th most games in NHL history for a player from Finland and was drafted by the Wings. They don't draft a ton over the years, that seems to have more to do with how the board is aligning at times though.

Until the Golden Knights joined the league, no team had drafted as few Finns as the red wings. Not on average, all time.

 

[nbwingsfan]

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Yes, that's what seperates the good GMs from the bad GMs. Bad GMs sign bad contracts based on poor assessments of their team and of the player in question.

It's simply not true that every GM ends up with bad contracts.

Sakic is viewed as great and has geogiev at $3.4m as a terrible goalie

Every GM signs bad contracts at some point

 

[SensontheRush]

Sakic is viewed as great and has geogiev at $3.4m as a terrible goalie

Every GM signs bad contracts at some point

This is the last year at a $3.4m cap hit, and Georgiev was great for COL in his first year and passable last year, whereas Husso hasn't posted a single season above .900 in DET with a cap hit at $4.75m.

This was also Sakic's last contract on his way out to make way for Chris Macfarland, whom I imagine had more to do with the signing than Sakic.

I also really doubt COL fans feel really hamstrung by the contract; they are more bothered by MacFarland's lack of action regarding their defense and goaltending.

So, I'm sure you could come up with a better example. In this case, it just makes Sakic's tenure look that much better if this is a "bad" contract of his.

 

[Dotter]

This is the last year at a $3.4m cap hit, and Georgiev was great for COL in his first year and passable last year, whereas Husso hasn't posted a single season above .900 in DET with a cap hit at $4.75m.

This was also Sakic's last contract on his way out to make way for Chris Macfarland, whom I imagine had more to do with the signing than Sakic.

I also really doubt COL fans feel really hamstrung by the contract; they are more bothered by MacFarland's lack of action regarding their defense and goaltending.

So, I'm sure you could come up with a better example. In this case, it just makes Sakic's tenure look that much better if this is a "bad" contract of his.

Sakic signed Brad Stuart to $3.6 per who only played a handful of games. That is worse than Yzerman's Justin Holl signing. Francois Beauchemin at 13.5 million was a flop. Past his prime Jarome Iginla was a terrible signing.

Sakic had his fair share of warts.

 

[Fatass]

Sakic signed Brad Stuart to $3.6 per who only played a handful of games. That is worse than Yzerman's Justin Holl signing. Francois Beauchemin at 13.5 million was a flop. Past his prime Jarome Iginla was a terrible signing.

Sakic had his fair share of warts.

Sakic’s club won a Cup. Yzerman’s club no Cup. Sakic wins. In management Sakic is way ahead.

 

[Dotter]

Sakic’s club won a Cup. Yzerman’s club no Cup. Sakic wins. In management Sakic is way ahead.

None of those aforementioned bad contracts were part of the championship team.

 

[Hobnobs]

Sakic’s club won a Cup. Yzerman’s club no Cup. Sakic wins. In management Sakic is way ahead.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call moving the goal posts

 

[lilidk]

This is Husso treat, but here we go. Yzerman biggest success was getting Seider, Sakic MacKinnon. Seider was drafted six , MacKinnon first. Avs have a lot of #1 and #2 picks. Raymond was highest pick at 4.
Both teams defence is a biggest weaknesses. It's not Georgiev or Husso bad , it's defense

 

[nbwingsfan]

Sakic’s club won a Cup. Yzerman’s club no Cup. Sakic wins. In management Sakic is way ahead.

That’s not the point.

The guy said good GMs don’t make bad signings.

This is blatantly false.

 

[nbwingsfan]

This is the last year at a $3.4m cap hit, and Georgiev was great for COL in his first year and passable last year, whereas Husso hasn't posted a single season above .900 in DET with a cap hit at $4.75m.

This was also Sakic's last contract on his way out to make way for Chris Macfarland, whom I imagine had more to do with the signing than Sakic.

I also really doubt COL fans feel really hamstrung by the contract; they are more bothered by MacFarland's lack of action regarding their defense and goaltending.

So, I'm sure you could come up with a better example. In this case, it just makes Sakic's tenure look that much better if this is a "bad" contract of his.

This is Husso last year as well.

Apparently a .897 on a stacked Colorado team is passable but .896 and .892 (while injured) on a much worse Wings team is some roster shattering poor play

 

[raymond23]

Crazy this made it to 7 pages lol

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Now he can focus on PRONSTARS full time.

Wut?

 

[SensontheRush]

This is Husso last year as well.

Apparently a .897 on a stacked Colorado team is passable but .896 and .892 (while injured) on a much worse Wings team is some roster shattering poor play

Georgiev had 38 Ws. The contract for Husso is almost $1.5m more, and COL made the 2nd round of the playoffs with Georgiev last year. Not only that, but Georgiev had almost 3x more years of NHL experience over Husso when they signed their respective contracts.

I don't know what you are arguing though. Husso's been so bad you've had to rely on Reimer and Lyon, whereas COL could at least win with their guy.

@Dotter gave a good response as to bad contracts signed by Sakic, though it seems he dealt with them well without bleeding assets. Both Stuart and Beauchemin were bought out without having to pay anyone as cap dumps, and they at least got a return trading Iginla. The trade for Stuart was awful though.

 

[Dotter]

Georgiev had 38 Ws. The contract for Husso is almost $1.5m more, and COL made the 2nd round of the playoffs with Georgiev last year. Not only that, but Georgiev had almost 3x more years of NHL experience over Husso when they signed their respective contracts.

I don't know what you are arguing though. Husso's been so bad you've had to rely on Reimer and Lyon, whereas COL could at least win with their guy.

@Dotter gave a good response as to bad contracts signed by Sakic, though it seems he dealt with them well without bleeding assets. Both Stuart and Beauchemin were bought out without having to pay anyone as cap dumps, and they at least got a return trading Iginla. The trade for Stuart was awful though.

In regards to Husso, it's not fair to think Yzerman (or any GM) should be able to predict injuries. Husso was sought after by many GMs when he was a UFA. Lyon, on his splendid contract, more than made up for Husso's contract and he has played solid.

Lyon @ 900k AVV: GAA 2.20/.940% and GAA 2.06 /.938% respectively.