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I think I said an 8x8 a couple weeks ago. Glad to see the DRW get him locked up for 8 years. I am not a DRW fan but I love watching this kid. Excited to see how he develops.
Thought Mason retired.You know the league has gone to shit when Mason Raymond gets a $64M contract!
Not according to Leah Hextall.Thought Mason retired.
Should have put that in your original post, unless you think posters tune into Leah Hextall.Not according to Leah Hextall.
He is nothing like Byfield and it remains to be seen who will be better. Weird comment.He's like Byfield, but better. Hope this helps
I think most actively make an effort to tune out.Should have put that in your original post, unless you think posters tune into Leah Hextall.
Yup. I like Raymond. So far he is the third best player and third best contract of his draft class.He is nothing like Byfield and it remains to be seen who will be better. Weird comment.
Should have put that in your original post, unless you think posters tune into Leah Hextall.
I think most actively make an effort to tune out.
Ya that’s fine, but that’s assuming 31 other teams fans know that,Nobody tunes into Leah Hextall on purpose. She is forced on us.
She called a Wings game once when she kept calling Lucas Raymond, "Mason Raymond" like 2 or 3 times during the same broadcast. it's been a running joke ever since. She's terrible.
Nobody tunes into Leah Hextall on purpose. She is forced on us.
She called a Wings game once when she kept calling Lucas Raymond, "Mason Raymond" like 2 or 3 times during the same broadcast. it's been a running joke ever since. She's terrible.
You know the league has gone to shit when Mason Raymond gets a $64M contract!
Yes that is how most of these deals work.Yeah, at max term
Don't care what anyone says...She's yummy.Should have put that in your original post, unless you think posters tune into Leah Hextall.
This isn't a steal of a contract lmao it's literally the market rate for this type of first time RFA winger.
Yes I am aware.When you realize the cap is gonna be $100M+ in year four of this deal...
Not even just a Red Wings thing. Anybody locking up their stars to max deals at a decent rate right now is gonna reap the benefits.
Raymond becomes the 65th highest paid player in the league. ~20 wingers, give or take, earn more than him already, day 1 of the contract.
Doesn't seem like too much of a risky investment. Detroit needs stars and Raymond looks like one.
Yes I am aware.
It's not a "steal of a contract".
It's just how the RFA system works in the NHL.
Guys who aren't even arbitration eligible with 4 more years of RFA control are going to be signed to bargain deals when you compare them to UFA guys who have a bunch of leverage and are able to have bidding wars.
But this isn't any particular bargain compared to Stutzle's deal, Jarvis deal, Fabers deal, Sanderson's deal, Byfields deal, Lundell's deal, or Guhle's deal, if you look at other guys in the exact same situation from that 2020 draft class.
Like i said, i think it's certainly "fair value" already...with the potential to get even better. I'd even say that dollar value is like to age really well. And it's a fair point that Detroit needs "star power" or top-end offensive play drivers...wherever they can get them.
It's just...as a matter of team construction, it can be risky to invest heavy in the wings, unless they're absolute superstars.
Sort of the hand Yzerman has been dealt though. Raymond is a darn good player, and they've got a bunch of really promising Centers coming along who project as more, solid all around, "good, not great" in terms of becoming that offensive dynamo that really drives the bus (and they'll be on cheap deals for a while). So it has the potential to work out. It's just not a conventional model for success, or all that typical.
Though teams are also paying less creative play-driving Wingers just as much elsewhere. So it might even be a non-issue soon enough.
first time RFA long term deals have always been bargains I wouldn't say this is anything new.... Hence "Anybody locking up their stars to max deals at a decent rate right now is gonna reap the benefits."
first time RFA long term deals have always been bargains I wouldn't say this is anything new.
Mitch Marner's deal was just absolutely horrible negotiating. Imo the worst contract negotiation in recent memory by a GMThat's why Mitch Marner's deal aged so well.
Well, no disagreement on Dubas being a shit GM lol.Mitch Marner's deal was just absolutely horrible negotiating. Imo the worst contract negotiation in recent memory by a GM
Still to this day no RFA winger has surpassed 9.5 mill, let alone come close to 11 mill. And they didn't get full term.
Mikko Rantanen's deal aged pretty damn well, even after Dubas getting bent over by Marner's agent gave him more leverage to get more.
Detroit isn't really invested heavy on the wing, though.
If there's an up-and-coming team that's at risk of being over-invested in the wing, it's Montreal.