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Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] F Lucas Raymond re-signs with the Red Wings (8 years, $8.075M AAV)
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JaegerDice
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Fair deal. Not a steal for the team, not a robbery by the player.
Good price for a good player.
Good price for a good player.
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You average almost ten (!) posts a day for the last seven (!) years on a hockey (!) forum, but still have too much work to figure out who the former 4th overall pick is?
Bounces R Way
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Fine piece of business for Yzerman but I dunno about 'steal'. Still just a smallish offense only winger. Not sure if there's a ton of room for Raymond to make more of an impact really.
The eight years is the vital number here.
The eight years is the vital number here.
Congrats Wings fans,
dudes a great player.
dudes a great player.
He's infamous for high sticking himself with another players stick
Bouboumaster
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hotcabbagesoup
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I think this year he's gonna have a breakout year. Seemed to finally set into the big league in the second half of the season..The final few games he was dominant. New season, new contract, trained hard over the summer. I also think he gets an A now.
Sol
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lol most of my posts are about how much I hate my own team.You average almost ten (!) posts a day for the last seven (!) years on a hockey (!) forum, but still have too much work to figure out who the former 4th overall pick is?
It is a great contract, because it wont even be an overpayment in the first year!
He is 22. So he is signed 8 years to his 30 birthday.
You get prime Raymond for 8 years at that cap (well below under 10 %)?
The great thing is the 8 years! If they can sign Mo Seider for 8 years as well (8.5), they have a great basis to be a contender in a few years if they can pick up talent.
He is 22. So he is signed 8 years to his 30 birthday.
You get prime Raymond for 8 years at that cap (well below under 10 %)?
The great thing is the 8 years! If they can sign Mo Seider for 8 years as well (8.5), they have a great basis to be a contender in a few years if they can pick up talent.
4 year deal did not make sense whatsoever - it basically gets Raymond to UFA in the quickest way. Not something you pay 7.75 mil for. This was only possible in Raymond's agent dreams as we see based on final outcome.
Petes2424
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That’s something nobody talks about, and why it’s perceived as such a good deal. Most 22 year olds are getting these contracts, hoping they grow into them. Stutzle is a perfect example. Teams are willing to overpay for 2-3 years, then hope they’re underpaying for 5-6 years.
Raymond should play up to his contract in year one. So he’ll logically be underpaid for almost his entire deal. We’ll see. If he’s what he was showing the last 20-25 games last year, it’ll be a steal.
biturbo19
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Tough one, because i think this probably ends up being very good "value" over the duration. It's already pretty "fair" value for what Raymond can be as a play-driving winger. However...it's just so sketchy to invest so much in a winger in general. It risks leaving you in that limbo. Detroit really need some of their Centers and non-Seider defencemen to start panning out so badly, if this is all going to work.
HeadLiceHatty
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Progressed every year, if he becomes a 90 point guy or better, what a steal. Solid contract even if he stays what he is right now, but his comments about the signing and his work ethic seem good, I expect him to improve more.
Pavels Dog
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Raymond becomes the 65th highest paid player in the league. ~20 wingers, give or take, earn more than him already, day 1 of the contract.
Doesn't seem like too much of a risky investment. Detroit needs stars and Raymond looks like one.
HawksDub89
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That’s a nice deal for both sides.
Basically how I see it too. Even if 70-75 points is his peak, it’s solid value. If he starts hitting 90, steal of a contract.
Basically how I see it too. Even if 70-75 points is his peak, it’s solid value. If he starts hitting 90, steal of a contract.
Laphroaig
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Congratulations Wings fans. That's a pretty sweet deal.
When you don't watch Lucas Raymond...
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Raymond plays the full 200, you would be amazed at how good he has become at puck battles at both ends. The weight he put on going into year 3 really changed how other teams could play him. I also think Kane taught him how to back some guys off a little better.
He finished last year as a house on fire, that he also did it without Larkin is something I am not sure I expect other fanbases to know. I really expect Raymond if healthy to be in the high 80s to 90s and he can drive his own line. He also looks to have put on more muscle still in the stuff him and Seider are sharing online. He is our best forward probably next season which should also help Larkin a lot.
He is 11th in scoring for left wings, he actually needs to shoot more so he has easy growth areas for even more production. Really excited to see the next step this year. Guy is a stud.
He put on like 12 pounds of muscle last summer and it showed. It'll be interesting to see if he continued to try to bulk up this summer.
Stringer Bell
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Yeah, because Connor, Leon, Auston, and Sydney are soo much better!
TheDawnOfANewTage
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Lukes like someone’s jealous.
