Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] D Justin Holl signs with the Red Wings (3 years, $3.4M AAV)

Puckstuff

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Holl had one great year in Toronto but was really bad in his last year. He can be good when he’s on his game but he’s inconsistent.
 

Fatass

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Are the clubs, especially ones trying to compete, that don’t make mistakes along the way? Yzerman made a mistake signing this guy, but all GMs make mistakes. It’s whether they can accept their mistakes (and therefore fix them) that determines if their club can grow.
 
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Michoulicious

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Are the clubs, especially ones trying to compete, that don’t make mistakes along the way? Yzerman made a mistake signing this guy, but all GMs make mistakes. It’s whether they can accept their mistakes (and therefore fix them) that determines if their club can grow.
To be fair, he also made a big mistake with Andrew Copp.

His recent UFA signings were pretty bad.
 
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Fatass

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To be fair, he also made a big mistake with Andrew Copp.

His recent UFA signings were pretty bad.
Does Yzerman accept his mistakes and fix them? Or does he allow his ego to determine what’s best for the club to move forward in its development into a winner?
 

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To be fair, he also made a big mistake with Andrew Copp.

His recent UFA signings were pretty bad.

Copp isn't popular but he's fine, he plays a tough role and is an easy player to dislike... I get that. I'm not a huge fan of him but he is serviceable and should for the remainder of his deal. Plays tough match ups and will likely put up 35-40 points this year.
 
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The Nuge

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Are the clubs, especially ones trying to compete, that don’t make mistakes along the way? Yzerman made a mistake signing this guy, but all GMs make mistakes. It’s whether they can accept their mistakes (and therefore fix them) that determines if their club can grow.

The problem is it’s not one mistake. It’s Holl, Copp, Chiarot, Husso, etc
 

FriendlyGhost92

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The problem is it’s not one mistake. It’s Holl, Copp, Chiarot, Husso, etc

As somebody who hated Chiarot all year his first year, he and Copp haven't really been that bad. They're both plugs signed while the kids develop.

Holl was a bad misstep because he was signed to also be a plug, until Steve realized Petry was available. Problem is, Petry also sucks.
 

The Gr8 Dane

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I don't believe Yzerman would make a *mistake* like this , imo it was calculated , he is a genius and would a genius sign Holl to 3 years 3.4? All part of the plan boys
 

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