GDT: DEADLINE DAAYYYYYYYY
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- Jan 18, 2012
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Cirelli is the 2nd line center for the b2b champions
This utopian team doesn't exist.
can live with that.
I guess he likes Goodrow at center on the 4th at center for now since I'm assuming Motte is better at wing? When Rooney comes back will be interesting who sits. This is Chytil's time to keep improving and play like he's played. He is absolutely the X factor. He can either be a big piece for the third line or he will be sitting up in the press box when the playoffs start. Nothing in between
- Jul 16, 2005
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When Kakko returns:
Laf - Zib - Kreider
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Copp - Chytil - Vatrano
Motte - Goodrow - Reaves/Hunt
And if Rooney returns he can squeeze into that Reaves/Hunt spot, probably in rotation with Reaves, and Hunt sits.
And if Kravtsov returns then I really get excited.
- Jul 16, 2005
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It does; I'm literally following the template of the other teams who have won multiple cups. Do we have a 24 year old 45 point shut down center here?
rangers1314
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Lines
Kreider - Zib - Laf
Panarin - Strome - Vatrano
Copp - Chytil - Hunt
Motte - Goodrow - Reaves
Kreider - Zib - Laf
Panarin - Strome - Vatrano
Copp - Chytil - Hunt
Motte - Goodrow - Reaves
we can finally roll out 4 lines again which should help down the stretch with some more help coming.
Just few weeks ago we were rolling out basically 1.33 lines lol
Kudos to Gallant for sitting Mckegg. I mean it's an obvious move but ya never know how some coaches handle their bottom 6.
Just few weeks ago we were rolling out basically 1.33 lines lol
Kudos to Gallant for sitting Mckegg. I mean it's an obvious move but ya never know how some coaches handle their bottom 6.
- Jul 16, 2005
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I'd argue we would (do) still need centers. Not Superstars like Crosby, McDavid, MacKinnon or Matthews, of course, but young Stepan-level 1C/2C tweeners at least.
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As is, they added rentals.
If they can extend some of them to good contracts, then this deadline was good.
If they can not, there was not much point towards using assets to acquire those players for one run, or overpaying them on their next contracts due to lack of options.
I know it's difficult to look past these playoffs, but like @mas0764 is saying, they have Zbad, and and Chytil (in his contract year), as the only two centers signed for next year. Copp, even Strome, if they are willing to extend have a ton of leverage to get what they want unless the Rangers are going to find someone else.
I did not expect them to be able to fix that at the deadline, yet they sort of gambled the other way by removing Barron and some picks that they could have used on center prospects, or used as trade capital on an already established center who had some term left.
I like the players they brought in, I like they did not spend tons and tons on them, yet it sure would have been nice to see them find some longer term, cap efficient, solutions at the center position.
If they can extend some of them to good contracts, then this deadline was good.
If they can not, there was not much point towards using assets to acquire those players for one run, or overpaying them on their next contracts due to lack of options.
I know it's difficult to look past these playoffs, but like @mas0764 is saying, they have Zbad, and and Chytil (in his contract year), as the only two centers signed for next year. Copp, even Strome, if they are willing to extend have a ton of leverage to get what they want unless the Rangers are going to find someone else.
I did not expect them to be able to fix that at the deadline, yet they sort of gambled the other way by removing Barron and some picks that they could have used on center prospects, or used as trade capital on an already established center who had some term left.
I like the players they brought in, I like they did not spend tons and tons on them, yet it sure would have been nice to see them find some longer term, cap efficient, solutions at the center position.
rangers1314
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If Vatrano develops some chemistry on that second line I wouldn't mind him sticking there and putting Kakko with Chytil. Kakko does well with Chytil and he actually plays his style of game which is going to be important in the playoffs.
- Jul 16, 2005
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So?
I want to win a Cup. I want to win multiple Cups. You don't lock in a core that's not good enough and then figure that you'll fix it all later.
The build needs to happen on the front end generally before you lose flexibility and the ability to draft high.
I don't know that we're talking about the same thing.
I said I gave Drury a B at the deadline and I'm more or less fine with most of the deals.
Regardless, the problem is that group doesn't have any centers and most of those pieces are needed to fill the gaping holes our NHL roster has - ie, we ice too many black holes still, and the reason for that is we have no cap space to sign quality veterans and our kids are too young to be placed in those spots. That's why we had 5 AHLers on our forward lines last week.
Once Jones, Robertson, Othmann, Berard, and Cuylle all make the team, they are filling the spots of the low end players like McKegg, Hunt, Gauthier, and Nemeth who are net negatives. Hopefully these prospects become net positives cheaply in those roles. Ie, they are not spare assets that we can afford to trade, because if we do, we have no bodies to upgrade those black holes.
The spare piece is basically Lundkvist (or another of the defenders). He's desperately needed in conjunction with other assets (Kravtsov? A first?) to get at least one of the centers that we need.
Then we still need another center and another winger if Kravtsov doesn't take that spot. And no assets to deal without depleting, as I said, from the group of kids we need to fill out the roster.
We aren't as deep as you think in the farm. It's ranked 18th for a reason.
Rebuild, build, whatever you want to call it. We need 2-3 young forwards more.
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Kakko had one of the best runs of his career with Strome and Panarin before. And Kakko has top-line talent, Vatrano will always be a middle-sixer or third liner.
I think Kakko needs to go in that 2 line RW spot.
- Jul 16, 2005
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Goodrow is way better as a plus fourth liner than an average third liner. Same as Copp. If he's your 3C you are cooking with gas. If he's your 2C you better have talent edges in other places.
- Jan 18, 2012
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Chytil does so little well as a center. There’s no point of him being there over Copp
With Chytil at center, we are too weak. Copp is the 3c. Gallant is just doing his thing
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Can't remember if it was Drury or Gallant but they were asked that question about him and they answered "we see him as a Center".
Strome is wilting under the pressure as the season goes on like he always does. I don't think Kakko will see the same success as he did back when he was on that line and playing against some god awful teams. We really had the easiest schedule in terms of opponents to start off the year. I feel Vatrano has a better chance at sticking on that line in a playoff hockey atmosphere than Kakko but I have no issues with experimenting. I still think there is a good chance Kakko knocks Laf off that top line if he comes back 100%.
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Maybe. Or maybe getting a good player back on that line takes some of the pressure off. He's been playing with Hunt for two months.
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That spot will be temporary for Hunt. Maybe it's better to get Motte acclimated to his permanent role, and Hunt will be moved out when it's time.
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I get it.
There can only be one. With Strome here, it becomes an issue. When Strome is gone, he can move back
The Crypto Guy
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What do you mean which assets? All our top prospects? Pretty much everyone but Schneider and Othmann should be available to bring back a young center. Add in a 1st also if we don’t make the Conf finals as another asset.
McRanger92
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Copp is on pace for 50 points despite playing on WIN's 3rd line all year. Why cant he be our all-around top 6 shutdown center going forward? Age probably means more to you than Drury & the Rangers
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effen
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- Jun 27, 2003
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Motte will have to significantly outplay Hunt to take his spot. Gallant rolls with his guys.
