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NORiculous said:
Looking back is a way to learn and try to not reproduce mistakes. What you know today and what you knew at the time, to find ways to get better. That’s all it is. It’s a normal process. Post Mortem.
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It's a game I use to play but I avoid now. It's gambling with cherry picked narratives.
 
SuzukiSZN said:
I think they will.

We’ll have to see how it goes next season but no doubt in my mind that even if we have many good pieces it’s still early and they won’t win a lot.
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Imagine if all of Dach, Slaf, Roy, and Beck reach their ceiling level? Dach and Slaf can be stars and that is not a massive reach. Roy and Beck could be top 6 assets. Also not a reach. Nothing is sure shot but I think the key is these 4 up front.
 
jrom said:
Not sure what’s the point of trying to dissect every word said by Hugues. If Molson or Gorton told the scouts Michkov is DND for whatever reasons, well he’s not available hence can’t be BPA.

If Reinbacher doesn’t become our #1 RD it will be a failure, if Michkov becomes a star it will be a Price vs Kopitar thing.

Whatever they say / do if this team isn’t winning playoff series during the later half of Suzuki / Caufield contract it will be a failure, it’s a league of results.
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I don't think teams' projections for Michkov were as lofty as media/press projections for Michkov. I believe many teams have him as a 35-35 guy in the NHL that's soft and doesn't play tough minutes. Sure, there is an upside for a 90 points guy, but there are also downside cases where he becomes a Dadonov.

It's the same for Reinbacher, the base case is a steady, minute-munching RHD that puts up 30-40 points and plays against the other team's best lines, shutting them down. His upside is that he'll also be the main QB PP and will have seasons closer to 50+ points. His downside is that he won't play as many minutes, be limited to 30ish points, and will share shutting down top lines.
 
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Catanddogguitarrr said:
No I don't think so. They are really small and it doesn't go far in PO. CC and nobody else of that size. CC is already an nhl player and he does fine. If we do 2 small players on our top 6, we'll be a small team that get pushed in PO. There are so many tall and fast skaters today in nhl. That's what we must find and developp, skilled fast tall players around 195-225 lbs.
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Tampa won 2 cups and went to another final with Kuch, Point, Cirelli in their top 6......
 
David Suzuki said:
a lot of teams took overagers this year it’s a consequence of covid imo. Lot of players slipped through the cracks the last year or two. Fwiw the two scouting services I read this year both EP and the black book implied this drsft was brutal after a certain point as well which is why we saw so many off the board picks
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Too many people here believes this draft was super deep, but I've seen enough scout's comments that suggest the opposite. It was frontloaded sure, but deep no. TousSurLeHockey scout went as far as saying that it plummeted after 12th overall.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
I don’t blame them for being upset. We’ve needed an elite offensive player for decades and had a shot at one - and passed.

That’s not to say it wasn’t the right decision. Nobody knows that right now and we’ll have to wait and see.

But for now, some people want to vent and it’s understandable.
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The meltdowns are childish, pointless and a display of poor coping skills. I'd hate to see how these volatile misfits handle real life adversity.
 
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morhilane said:
Too many people here believes this draft was super deep, but I've seen enough scout's comments that suggest the opposite. It was frontloaded sure, but deep no. TousSurLeHockey scout went as far as saying that it plummeted after 12th overall.
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Luckily for us we were drafting 5th in a draft with a very clear top 5 and decided to pass on an elite talent. All with intangibles such as "culture" and "character" in mind.
 
morhilane said:
Too many people here believes this draft was super deep, but I've seen enough scout's comments that suggest the opposite. It was frontloaded sure, but deep no. TousSurLeHockey scout went as far as saying that it plummeted after 12th overall.
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There was talent for sure, I mean Jayden Perron went 96 when he can make offensive plays that most NHLers can't, simply because he's small and his skating is not above average.
 
One important thing to mention is that Reinbacher will probably have been playing on the time for a whole two years before Michkov even comes to the NHL so this definitely shouldn’t be underestimated while picking someone.

I mainly think that’s the reason the ducks went Carlsson instead of Fantilli they thought he was more nhl ready.

If you told me right now who would you pick between Seider or Kaprizov to start your team I would pick Seider.

Reinbacher is the type of player that will quietly put 20 plus minutes and game.

I still would have preferred Michkov but I can very much understand why we picked Reinbacher.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Fans might not get it because it's an entertainment business, after all.. but GMs, Coaches, Teams, Players, all dream to have what Reinbacher can bring.

Size? check.
Skating? check.
Smarts? check.
No panic? check.
Defense? check.
Great shot? check.
Puck mover? check.
Jumps into rushes? check.
Good stick? check.

I don't think people are quantifying his draft year.
  • A draft eligible DEFENSEMAN in one of the best PRO LEAGUES in the world became a GO-TO DEFENSEMAN and ran with it.
  • He had the 2nd best PPG for a draft eligible in that pro league EVER behind Auston Matthews
  • He went to the World Championships on a weak team and was their best defenseman prior to an injury.
  • He did this without any hype, any portfolio following him, it was all merited by his play.
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WTK out here hitting home runs.
 
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We have two PP specialists coming, Hutson and Mailloux. Having players like Reinbacher and Guhle that can eat huge 5on5 and PK minutes... Wow!

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I live with in NY. I tend to think of the fans in NY teams to be hyperbolic and too often, they say much but know little.

Habs fabs make Ranger fans look like thinking fans by comparison. The reactions to this puck are ridiculous & embarrassing.

True first pair dmen are impossible to find. It costs a fortune in assets & salary to being one on. I see all the “but but but we haven’t had a superstar forward since Lafleur!!” comments. Guy Lafleur for all his greatness wouldn’t have won a Cup without Larry Robinson.

Let’s let this play out. Give it time. If you are one of those who are threatening to burn your habs Jersey, please donate it instead to an organization which provides clothing to the homeless. At least some good will come from your temper tantrum.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Fans might not get it because it's an entertainment business, after all.. but GMs, Coaches, Teams, Players, all dream to have what Reinbacher can bring.

Size? check.
Skating? check.
Smarts? check.
No panic? check.
Defense? check.
Great shot? check.
Puck mover? check.
Jumps into rushes? check.
Good stick? check.

I don't think people are quantifying his draft year.
  • A draft eligible DEFENSEMAN in one of the best PRO LEAGUES in the world became a GO-TO DEFENSEMAN and ran with it.
  • He had the 2nd best PPG for a draft eligible in that pro league EVER behind Auston Matthews
  • He went to the World Championships on a weak team and was their best defenseman prior to an injury.
  • He did this without any hype, any portfolio following him, it was all merited by his play.
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People are really still sleeping on this kid. He is absolutely on a similar tier to the other top prospects after Bedard this year. Hopefully Habs fans haven't permanently traumatized him, because he's got immense potential. Habs picked a good one - really hope he fulfills his potential with the Habs in the near future (hopefully next year back in Swiss League and 2024-25 in MTL).

I keep saying it, but Reinbacher produced similarly impressively in a Euro Men's league as #2 Carlsson. He's in a similar tier to the Big 4. I prefer Reinbacher to Will Smith. Nobody is rioting in SJ for passing on Michkov for Smith.

The perception seems to be that there is some huge talent gulf between Reinbacher and Michkov. I don't think that's true. Look into the exceptional season Reinbacher just had at 18 in probably the 3rd best league in Europe. This is a player with very high potential who has already played at a very high level vs men in a very good Euro pro league. This is pretty rare, and shows he belongs to be in that top tier.
 
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CHwest said:
We have two PP specialists coming, Hutson and Mailloux. Having players like Reinbacher and Guhle that can eat huge 5on5 and PK minutes... Wow!

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Having seen a lot of Mailloux, I don't think he's top PP material in the NHL. He's got a good shot and that's a plus in junior, but it won't be as useful in the NHL. If you look at ice-vision and playmaking, I think Reinbacher's better than Mailloux.
 
So I’m assuming if Guhle was there, they were planning on drafting Reinbacher the whole time.
 
Bombshell11 said:
David Reinbacher is the easier target, i dont agree with it but if they discourage him enough his agent could request a trade and mtl would be in tremendous precious.

Its all Moslon's fault... guy is out of touch
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It’s all Molson’s fault…..??

WTF are you talking about?!!!!

because he didn’t select the player you desired to get picked??….out of touch is sitting in the mirror in front of you!!!….the world has gone mad lol
 
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CHwest said:
We have two PP specialists coming, Hutson and Mailloux. Having players like Reinbacher and Guhle that can eat huge 5on5 and PK minutes... Wow!

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There is no doubting that Reinbacher is a great fit in terms of position and play style. As you said, with Hutson and Mailloux we did not need that PP guy, rather an all around stud, which is Reinbachers ceiling.

Really hope he plays in Laval this year. Laval could be quite fun to watch with Roy and Mailloux there as well.

TopC0rner said:
Having seen a lot of Mailloux, I don't think he's top PP material in the NHL. He's got a good shot and that's a plus in junior, but it won't be as useful in the NHL. If you look at ice-vision and playmaking, I think Reinbacher's better than Mailloux.
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Mailloux can be that Shea Weber like weapon on the PP. Hutson is a the pure QB type. They could complement each other beautifully on a PP.
 



It's getting better and better, imagine drafting a player that high and expecting a #2D, who can't run the powerplay... Is that supposed to give fans confidence in that pick ?
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