Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I think RB will prove to be solid. If all goes well, he and Hutson will be amazing together. The more I read on him the more I like.

But it’s not really him that’s a t issue. It’s what we gave up. And we probably won’t know this for a few years.

It is what it is.
Would you feel sad if you get Lidstrom instead of Bure?
You get Chelios instead of Naslund.
You get Robinson instead of Shutt.
You get Coffey instead of Modano.
You get Brian Leetch instead of Pat Verbeek.

What is the most valuable? Tricky question.

 

[jaffy27]

If Reinbacher isn’t our top defenseman as the 5th overall pick I think it’s a failure. Especially if Mitchkov, Leonard, and/or Benson become superstars.

When you draft a guy at 5th overall and he’s not one of the best players on your team (after an adequate amount of time) it’s a failure in my opinion.

And if the 4 C’s picked ahead of Reinbacher don’t become #1 C’s on their respective teams, its a failure on their part, especially if Reinbacher becomes a stud D

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Not all smurfs are equal. CC is a pure goal scorer. His whole life people have said he’s too small and he’s consistently proved them wrong. I see zero reason why we would let size concerns get in the way of elite talent. Play the. In separate lines - problem solved - and teams would have a hard time defending two lines instead of one. Imagine two potential 50 goal scorers in the lineup…

Having two like that on seperate lines create a problem of chemistry with the other players. They get a lot of pressure, they have to receive hits the small player will avoid. It's too brutal in corners, the small players tends to not get their nose dirty in corners, they arrive 2nd. It's today's nhl fast game and punch, it's 82 games and more brutal in PO.

 

[BenchBrawl]

It is what it is.
Would you feel sad if you get Lidstron instead of Bure?
You get Chelios instead of Naslund.
You get Robinson instead of Shutt.
You get Coffey instead of Modano.
You get Brian Leetch instead of Pat Verbeek.

What is the most valuable? Tricky question.

Mixing up Bure, Naslund, Shutt, Modano and Verbeek is... an interesting combination lol

I mean, you picked much better defensemen than forwards here.

 

[River Meadow]

Oh snap

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Mixing up Bure, Naslund, Shutt, Modano and Verbeek is... an interesting combination lol

I mean, you picked much better defensemen than forwards here.

Hehehe, you saw my clever trick, lol. But I like these forwards, just saying. Agree the Ds are a notch better than the forwards except Coffey equals Modano. I place them quite equal.

 

[Guy Larose]

I don’t blame them for being upset. We’ve needed an elite offensive player for decades and had a shot at one - and passed.

That’s not to say it wasn’t the right decision. Nobody knows that right now and we’ll have to wait and see.

But for now, some people want to vent and it’s understandable.

It's past venting at this point...

 

[River Meadow]

It's past venting at this point...

People are dumb.

Send your hate mail to Habs management, not the player.

It's like a girl cheating on you, and you're mad at the other guy... bruh.


Also.. I wonder how many of those messages came from @BenchBrawl alone..

(I kid, I kid)

 

[BenchBrawl]

Also.. I wonder how many of those messages came from @BenchBrawl alone..

(I kid, I kid)

I act like a mad man on the surface but I have a lot of integrity.

Many people are exactly the opposite.

Hehehe, you saw my clever trick, lol. But I like these forwards, just saying. Agree the Ds are a notch better than the forwards except Coffey equals Modano. I place them quite equal.

Coffey equals Modano?

On a list of all-time defensemen, Coffey will go like 9th-15th pretty much every time.

On a list of all-time centers, Modano will never crack the Top 30, probably not the Top 40.

Even adjusting that center position is deeper, that doesn't make the cut.

 

[Bombshell11]

I really cant care less off 1000s of people sending hate DMs to any player tbh. We're like 50 million habs fans accross the world, 10,000 is such a small number it really should not matter.

This is 1000% Molson's fault.. he still hasn't learned wtf we want... he still doesn't get it.

You let us down big time yesterday, all we wanted was something to be excited for. David Reinbacher is a great pick with good upside but he's not an exciting pick.

You approved the RBC logo, you dont draft Michkov because of political reasons....
hey sa va faire

 

[Bombshell11]

People are dumb.

Send your hate mail to Habs management, not the player.

It's like a girl cheating on you, and you're mad at the other guy... bruh.


Also.. I wonder how many of those messages came from @BenchBrawl alone..

(I kid, I kid)

David Reinbacher is the easier target, i dont agree with it but if they discourage him enough his agent could request a trade and mtl would be in tremendous precious.

Its all Moslon's fault... guy is out of touch

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, he might be cooking things we don't know about or might be very insecure regarding Mailloux/Barron. The strongest Quebecois crop in a very long time next year at the draft might be a factor he's thinking about and the top guys are forwards (Massé). The Leafs / Oilers are good illustrations of why reinforcing the D ain't a bad option, these guys are worth a lot. What if he's taking draft assets for their inherent draft value? Right-handed Ds are money for trades.

I'm not excusing him, having no scout disagree with the consensus should be a red alarm for him.

Our PP D is Lane Hutson, not sure it matters if Rain can lead it, that being said, Reinbacher's shot is a bomb.

He will be a top4 dman. I don’t think we picked a scrub, we just didn’t get the value we should have with a 5th imo.

 

[Toene]

Here are my thoughts, it's in French because that's why I wrote to my friends in our group chat and I'm too lazy to translate:


2022: Simon Nemec parti 2e avant Cooley, Wright, Gauthier et Jiricek 6e

2021: Owen Powers parti avant Matthew Beniers et McTavish, Luke Hughes et Simon Edvinsson partis 4e et 6e

2020: Jake Sanderson et Jamie Drysdale partis 5e et 6e avant Holtz, Rossi, Perfetti. (Laffy, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond partis avant)

2019: Bowen Byram(4) et Moritz Seider (6) partis avant Turcotte, Cozens, Zegras, Podkolzin, Caufield, Boldy. J. Hughes, Kakko, Dach partis avant.

2018: Dahlin 1st (duh), Hughes 7e quand KK, Tkachuk, Hayton, Zadina partis avant.

2017: Heiskanen (3) et Makar (4) par dessus Pettersson, Glass, Lias Andersson, Mittelstatd, et avec Hischier et Patrick 1 et 2.

Mon point cest qu’un defenseur pris ds le top 6-7 depuis les 5 dernieres annees ont tous etes des joueurs d’impact ou prometteurs dans la LNH ou la AHL a leur saison D+1. Owen Power a ete nomine pr le Calder malgre un debut lent.

Moritz Seider est une force. De ce groupe, Je crois qu’apres Dahlin, Seider est le defenseur avec le plus d'impact et le plus de potentiel. Et ce, etant un 6e au total. Choix completement surprise mais justifiee. Ajd, on peut bien se dire quon prendrait tous Seider avant Kakko, Dach, Turcotte et meme Byram.

Jake Sanderson est un choix plate au 5e rang mais il a connu une bonne saison recrue avec les Senateurs avec 32 pts et en jouant bcp de minutes. Sanderson semble etre un meilleur joueur que Laffy, Byfield, et peut etre son impact va etre meilleur que Raymond.

En 2017, on sentend que Makar serait 1er au total dans un redraft et Heiskanen tjrs top 3. Jason Robertson top 3 peut etre et Pettersson. Les deux defenseurs sont plus dominants que Hischier et Patrick.

Owen Power a encore bcp de temps mais Luke Hughes et Edvinsson ont des chances de devenir meilleurs qu’un entre Beniers et McTavish. Cest encore tot.

Simon Nemec et David Jiricek ont connus dexcellents saisons D+1 en AHL et semblent tous les deux se projeter en deux defenseurs top 2 tres fiables et bons pour leurs equipes. Logan Cooley a encore a nous prouver ds une ligue professionelle mais ajd, je suis confiant de dire que la progression de Nemec et Jiricek sont en avance sur Shane Wright.

David Reinbacher est parti 5e et Dmitriy Simashev 6e. Il y a des fortes chances que Reinbacher puisse se developper en un joueur avec plus dimpact ds la NHL qu’un des 4 attaquants pris devant lui. De ce que je sache, Michkov aurait ete mon choix de preference au 5e rang, mais il doit se prouver ds la NHL avant quon puisse dire quil a plus d'impact que Reinbacher. Ca va prendre au moins un 5-8 ans avant de savoir. Moi je crois que Reinbacher, avec son gabarit, son patin, agilite, sens du hockey, son gap control, son flair offensif tous combines, ca nous donne une tres bonne chance davoir un joueur d’impact a sa position et devenir un des meilleurs joueurs de son draft class. Il faut etre patient, mais juste a comparer les 5 derniers drafts, Reinbacher pris 5e au total ne semble pas un reach du tout a la KK, cest juste quil a ete pris par dessus un joueur qui semble avoir un potentiel de superstar. Mais ca veut pas dire que Michkov naura pas ses obstacles pour devenir un elite ds la NHL

Excellent post, I wish we could translate it in english for our Anglo friends.

Jamais ç'a été l'argument comme quoi Reinbacher deviendrait pas une machine qui mange des minutes et solidifie notre équipe. Le gars va rendre notre défense une des meilleures de la ligue sans aucun doute, parce que juste lui et Guhle c'est le rêve à la ligne bleue. Après ça t'ajoutes Hutson, Xhekaj, Barron, Mailloux, Engstrom pis ça donne quasiment le vertige, notre escouade défensive potentielle fait legit peur.

Est-ce qu'avoir une des meilleures brigades défensives vaut la peine de se passer de Michkov, un attaquant étoile assuré? Seulement le temps nous le dira. Dans tous les cas, les deux options sont alléchantes. At the end of the day, le choix d'hier a moins changé les chances des Habs de compétitionner pour la coupe que ce que la majorité croit. C'est cliché en esti, mais la défense que Hughes est en train de construire, ça pourrait être solide au point de mériter des championnats. Je répète : Guhle-boss la machine, Reinbacher le sage fougueux, Hutson le mage électrisant, Mailloux le marteau-piqueur, Xhekaj l'olympien à la force herculéene, Harris le scientifique en sarreau, Barron l'artisan-sculpteur hipster, et plusieurs autres que j'oublie. Tout est setté pour qu'on éblouisse la ligue avec notre défense. Caufield, Suze et Dach vont aimer se faire distribuer le biscuit par ces gars-là. Manque just un goaler pis on peut brasser la cage, je pense.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

People are dumb.

Send your hate mail to Habs management, not the player.

It's like a girl cheating on you, and you're mad at the other guy... bruh.


Also.. I wonder how many of those messages came from @BenchBrawl alone..

(I kid, I kid)

Your avatar isn't the greatest idea.
We get the pun, no need to advertise that bad popcorn brand because of the resemblance with the player's name.
It's 10 yrs old stuff, can you grow faster to 11 and change that tacky avatar.
Disrespecting a family name isn't very cool. It have a bad taste in the mouth.

 

[Bombshell11]

You're part of the problem

Hey man thats a personal attack,

What is the problem exactly that i'm part of?

I said i don' agree with it...

 

[Coffee]

Your avatar isn't the greatest idea.
We get the pun, no need to advertise that bad popcorn brand because of the resemblance with the player's name.
It's 10 yrs old stuff, can you grow faster to 11 and change that tacky avatar.
Disrespecting a family name isn't very cool. It have a bad taste in the mouth.

Agreed

@River Meadow needs to change that Avatar.. now

Hey man thats a personal attack,

What is the problem exactly that i'm part of?

I said i don' agree with it...

Hey, you’re the dude who keeps making threads on main boards!

 

[Guy Larose]

Hey man thats a personal attack,

What is the problem exactly that i'm part of?

I said i don' agree with it...

"I really cant care less off 1000s of people sending hate DMs to any player tbh. We're like 50 million habs fans accross the world, 10,000 is such a small number it really should not matter."..... hate is hate, no matter if it's one or 1000s. You just got triggered by my one comment, can you imagine 1000s ?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Yeah it went way too far. I get if you’re disappointed, but some people need psychological help. It’s just a game you have no control over. If you can’t handle it, stop watching. No need to be toxic towards a kid that doesn’t deserve it.

I don’t like the pick, but makes me want him to prove everyone wrong. I hope they don’t rush him too.

 

[River Meadow]

Your avatar isn't the greatest idea.
We get the pun, no need to advertise that bad popcorn brand because of the resemblance with the player's name.
It's 10 yrs old stuff, can you grow faster to 11 and change that tacky avatar.
Disrespecting a family name isn't very cool. It have a bad taste in the mouth.

No

It's a funny pun on his name.

This is done all the time for various players.

Let's not go crazy now..

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Excellent post, I wish we could translate it in english for our Anglo friends.

Jamais ç'a été l'argument comme quoi Reinbacher deviendrait pas une machine qui mange des minutes et solidifie notre équipe. Le gars va rendre notre défense une des meilleures de la ligue sans aucun doute, parce que juste lui et Guhle c'est le rêve à la ligne bleue. Après ça t'ajoutes Hutson, Xhekaj, Barron, Mailloux, Engstrom pis ça donne quasiment le vertige, notre escouade défensive potentielle fait legit peur.

Est-ce qu'avoir une des meilleures brigades défensives vaut la peine de se passer de Michkov, un attaquant étoile assuré? Seulement le temps nous le dira. Dans tous les cas, les deux options sont alléchantes. At the end of the day, le choix d'hier a moins changé les chances des Habs de compétitionner pour la coupe que ce que la majorité croit. C'est cliché en esti, mais la défense que Hughes est en train de construire, ça pourrait être solide au point de mériter des championnats. Je répète : Guhle-boss la machine, Reinbacher le sage fougueux, Hutson le mage électrisant, Mailloux le marteau-piqueur, Xhekaj l'olympien à la force herculéene, Harris le scientifique en sarreau, Barron l'artisan-sculpteur hipster, et plusieurs autres que j'oublie. Tout est setté pour qu'on éblouisse la ligue avec notre défense. Caufield, Suze et Dach vont aimer se faire distribuer le biscuit par ces gars-là. Manque just un goaler pis on peut brasser la cage, je pense.

Is this is french or it's portugese? I agree with the post but not sure what lingo it is.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I think RB and Hutson will help each other’s development. Hutson has the creativity to help RB develop his offensive game and RB can help shore up Hutson’s D.

If Mich wasn’t involved in this equation I’d say I’m pretty happy that out D seems to be set for years to come. That’s something to be happy about at least.

Yes, I agree Michkov is definitely the issue here.

 

[Andrei79]

David Reinbacher is the easier target, i dont agree with it but if they discourage him enough his agent could request a trade and mtl would be in tremendous precious.

Its all Moslon's fault... guy is out of touch

No, Molsons not at fault for idiots sending hate messages. This is just ridiculous.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Nice post, nice try but I prefer the choice of the Habs with Rein than the choice of the Flyers. Michkov was skilled enough to be drafted #2. He went #7, ask 2 to 6 why they didn't take him. It's not pertinent attaquing Habs management for that pick you seem to not like. It's like a last attempt to say "I'm sure I'm right and they were wrong". I've read all the arguments, I've spendt hours and hours reading comments here and also elsewhere, there was no post, no argument that convinced me without a doubt Michkov will become a future nhl star. I wasn't impressed by his videos and all I saw was die hard fans who were very entousiast and very stubborn about that pick. Sometimes it was a mix of old grumpy man and juveline excitement and rage. That was too emotive to convince me.

All this board can be wrong. And this board was very wrong many times in the past. It doesn't mean anything for me the majority here. I'm totally a free electron and I decide who I like or not as a player. I have my eyes and my informations when I search.

Reinbacher was a safe pick, equal to Carlsson. He will be our next best D. He is already an excellent skater. He will take care of the PP, he will escape of his zone with speed, take good decisions because he is very intelligent and he will not bust because of booze, drugs or nightlife.

Booze, drugs and nightlife can impact anyone. Reinbacher is not immune to this. Lots of kids with good heads on the shoulders end up in treatment centres.

 

[OnTheRun]

I really cant care less off 1000s of people sending hate DMs to any player tbh. We're like 50 million habs fans accross the world, 10,000 is such a small number it really should not matter.

This is 1000% Molson's fault.. he still hasn't learned wtf we want... he still doesn't get it.

You let us down big time yesterday, all we wanted was something to be excited for. David Reinbacher is a great pick with good upside but he's not an exciting pick.

You approved the RBC logo, you dont draft Michkov because of political reasons....
hey sa va faire

Imagine handwaving a few 1000s hate messages because there is 8 billion people on Earth AND getting mad about a RBC logo on a jersey in the same post.

 

[Coffee]

Booze, drugs and nightlife can impact anyone. Reinbacher is not immune to this. Lots of kids with good heads on the shoulders end up in treatment centres.

I’m a Habs fan from overseas, but I heard there are no drugs in Canada, or at least very rare.

Besides weed