Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[BehindTheTimes]

Jeebus group think.

I mean Hughes said he thinks his ceiling is a 2D, and he will never run 1st unit pp. This is what you spend a top 5 pick on when next years draft is absolutely loaded with dmen.

It does not make sense.

 

[FF de Mars]

stop pretending you know what I think or feel. You're absolutely clueless, that's what's maddening.



Moving the goalposts. You presented two arguments. The 8 points in 2 games and the Zadina comparison. Now that they both been shot down, it's something else.

Michkov was at the Flyers facilities. He's higher than 5'10 and bigger than 180 according to their scout.



it's a 3 game sample. Beginning of the season. Oh he had a three game drought with Ska. Again ignorance. You wouldn't use that argument if you knew that the season before, at 17, he had 5 points in 13 games with SKA. But I guess those 3 games are much much more defining?

You should really quit this debate, because you've simply not researched this, just repeating all the copium you've picked up.



stop stop. Mivhkov played with Ska, a year younger than the players you named.

and again even if he played for Sochi HE STILL FACED KHL OPPOSITION AND WAS SURROUNDED BY SCRUBS.



WTF now you're inventing stuff. Holy crap. He didn't ask for a trade. SKA didn't have any room. He was loaned.


He had 5 in 13 at 17 years old, with SKA, the year before, a year younger than all those names. How hard is that to understand?

Stop doing the hangman! My point about Zadina is about the highlights fans are watching. And why should I stop saying he scored a bunch of points against the worst teams, people use that argument all day when they talk about Slafkovsky. You will only allow arguments that fit your narrative. You buy the hype, obviously the Flyers will boost him up, it's a marketing sheme, their fans are disgruntled, they need to come up as winners. He might have scored 5 points last year but the draft is about progression so it's irrelevant! Did Mitchkov progress this year or is he the new Shane Wright? He played on the top line in Sochi with lesser top line players, he didn't play with 4th liners like he would have in SKA, where he couldn't even make the team! That's a huge difference.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I have seen a red flag during the afternoon. During an interview between Lapointe and Renaud Lavoie, Lapointe told that it was UNANIMOUS in our staff group that the choice to be made has to be Reinbacher, How to f**k could this be unanimous?

Think Timmins would come back? Fug.

 

[Whitesnake]

Very good player. Future Jay Bouwmeester. In a really bad draft, in a re-draft Bouw is probably 7th to 9th.

That's what I expect Rain to be. Very good player. Not the best value at our pick.

All hope now is on the development so he becomes even better than the Habs PROS think he'll be.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

The weakest and dimmest argument presented in this and other threads is that "next year's draft will have a lot of dmen"

I don’t think it’s a dumb argument at all. It happens to be true. The dumbest thing in this thread is our gm who used a top 5 pick on dman who he thinks ceiling is a 2D and not capable of running a pp. I agree with him, so why take him at 5?

 

[Whitesnake]

I mean Hughes said he thinks his ceiling is a 2D, and he will never run 1st unit pp. This is what you spend a top 5 pick on when next years draft is absolutely loaded with dmen.

It does not make sense.

That's the thing. NOBODY should think that way though. Look at next year's draft...and see the plethora of potential good d-men. But THAT team does it.

Which brings that question...if they go with needs...HOW THE f*** do they not look at next year and see that their NEEDS could be better fulfilled next year?

 

[Vachon23]

Very good player. Future Jay Bouwmeester. In a really bad draft, in a re-draft Bouw is probably 7th to 9th.

That's what I expect Rain to be. Very good player. Not the best value at our pick.

All hope now is on the development so he becomes even better than the Habs PROS think he'll be.

Jay Bouw was a great Dmen to be honest. I would take him at 5 any time

 

[Whitesnake]

The weakest and dimmest argument presented in this and other threads is that "next year's draft will have a lot of dmen"

You would be insanely right. Frankly, I TOTALLY agree with you. With the concept of BPA, NOBODY SHOULD CARE WHO IS THERE NEXT YEAR.

Here lies the problem...THAT f***ING TEAM do. They empty their NEEDS buckets. Since they go NEEDS, they should be looking at what,s available in, at least, the upcoming draft. I wouldn't. They most definately should.

 

[Draft]

That's the thing. NOBODY should think that way though. Look at next year's draft...and see the plethora of potential good d-men. But THAT team does it.

Which brings that question...if they go with needs...HOW THE f*** do they not look at next year and see that their NEEDS could be better fulfilled next year?

We’ve been around for enough drafts to know that projecting more than a year in advance is foolish unless the players are exceptional. You don’t know who develops and you don’t know where you’re picking. Where did Cam Allen go this year? How many of next years “great” defenceman are going to hit 6’2?

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

What would be the best for David ? Laval or Swiss league ?

I would actually like to have him in Laval with Adam Nicholas close to help him in his development. We could sign a good AHL vet with NHL experience to pair him with.

But if he wants to stay in Swiss for finishing I totally respect that

Hope he stays in Europe for 1 year. The good ones often do.

 

[SOLR]

I mean Hughes said he thinks his ceiling is a 2D, and he will never run 1st unit pp. This is what you spend a top 5 pick on when next years draft is absolutely loaded with dmen.

It does not make sense.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, he might be cooking things we don't know about or might be very insecure regarding Mailloux/Barron. The strongest Quebecois crop in a very long time next year at the draft might be a factor he's thinking about and the top guys are forwards (Massé). The Leafs / Oilers are good illustrations of why reinforcing the D ain't a bad option, these guys are worth a lot. What if he's taking draft assets for their inherent draft value? Right-handed Ds are money for trades.

I'm not excusing him, having no scout disagree with the consensus should be a red alarm for him.

Our PP D is Lane Hutson, not sure it matters if Rain can lead it, that being said, Reinbacher's shot is a bomb.

 

[FF de Mars]

I mean Hughes said he thinks his ceiling is a 2D, and he will never run 1st unit pp. This is what you spend a top 5 pick on when next years draft is absolutely loaded with dmen.

It does not make sense.

It's been mentionned, and even posted as a short clip, but when you take a look at the whole video, Hughes actuallly said : "Maybe D2 but I'm not sure, not sure but maybe not 1st PP. I'm not big on putting numbers like 1D 2D PP. He has the potential to log significant minutes". You need the whole citation because you put it out of context otherwise. So basically Hughes is saying he's not sure how Reinbacher will progress, which is different from the short clip posted below.

 

[Jack Skellington]

Is Hughes quiet quitting lol. Can't believe he said a D2

 

[Miller Time]

It's been mentionned, and even posted as a short clip, but when you take a look at the whole video, Hughes actuallly said : "Maybe D2 but I'm not sure, not sure but maybe not 1st PP. I'm not big on putting numbers like 1D 2D PP. He has the potential to log significant minutes". You need the whole citation because you put it out of context otherwise.

Context is not a consideration for some hot takes... Especially when it comes to snap judgments on draft day lol

 

[le_sean]

I mean Hughes said he thinks his ceiling is a 2D, and he will never run 1st unit pp. This is what you spend a top 5 pick on when next years draft is absolutely loaded with dmen.

It does not make sense.

And Cam Allen was the #1 rated defender for 2023 at this point last year. How exactly did that turn out? Lots can happen in a year.

 

[FF de Mars]

Is Hughes quiet quitting lol. Can't believe he said a D2

I'd much rather Hughes' humbleness than Brière's hubris.

 

[Kennerback]

It's been mentionned, and even posted as a short clip, but when you take a look at the whole video, Hughes actuallly said : "Maybe D2 but I'm not sure, not sure but maybe not 1st PP. I'm not big on putting numbers like 1D 2D PP. He has the potential to log significant minutes". You need the whole citation because you put it out of context otherwise. So basically Hughes is saying he's not sure how Reinbacher will progress, which is different from the short clip posted below.

It’s wishy washy. He can walk it back if need be.

 

[SOLR]

Is Hughes quiet quitting lol. Can't believe he said a D2

Did you expect him to just lie about it? There are no #1 D prospects this year.

 

[River Meadow]

 

[FF de Mars]

It’s wishy washy. He can walk it back if need be.

What do you mean walk it back? He's not a HF poster, he won't dig it up in the archives lol.

 

[le_sean]

Very good player. Future Jay Bouwmeester. In a really bad draft, in a re-draft Bouw is probably 7th to 9th.

That's what I expect Rain to be. Very good player. Not the best value at our pick.

All hope now is on the development so he becomes even better than the Habs PROS think he'll be.

Bouwmeester would be a great upside. Not sure why you think he’d go 7-9 in a redraft? He’s 2nd in GP his draft year and 8th in points, among all players. Guys ahead of him are Filppula, Hudler, Frans Nielsen, Semin. I easily take Jay-Bo ahead of all of those guys. He was really good for a really long time. In fact, he’d go 3 in a redraft after Nash and Keith and 3 is where he was taken.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

It's been mentionned, and even posted as a short clip, but when you take a look at the whole video, Hughes actuallly said : "D2, not sure, not sure 1st PP, but not big on putting numbers like 1D 2D PP, potential to log significant minutes". You need the whole citation because you put it out of context otherwise.

Hughes said the wrong thing. I agree with you - he tried to clarify and get away from the classification, but unfortunately it's the sound bite.

David Reinbacher clearly has the potential to be a #1 D on a team (in the sense of logging the most ice time). As far as his draft year, he's in the same tier statistically to guys like Heiskanen and Seider (I think Reinbacher is slightly ahead of those guys). Heiskanen is clearly a #1D.

But people who hate the pick will run with Hughes' mistake. Nothing one can do. Perceptions can be sticky. Hopefully when Reinbacher comes over he proves he can be a #1 D and then the argument will be moot. Until then it will all be he said she said.

 

[JoelWarlord]

2005 why take Price when we have Theodore Halak Danis stacked on net and we left skill winger Brule on the board.....

Now it's why take Reinbacher when we have Guhle Hutson Matheson Barron Xhekaj Harris Engstrom already and skilled winger Michkov on the board........

David Reinbacher 2033 Hart Norris Lindsay confirmed

 

[Guy Larose]

Pretty pathetic that the kid has to go through this because of the nut fans

 

[Andrei79]

Not one scout pushed for Michkov? How in the world is that even possible?

Is there some kind of hive mind thing going on?

You really wonder what they meant by building out every department. Gorton's been on quite a few draft teams, maybe the problem is he thinks this is normal ? With the emphasis they put on offense and Michkovs ability to understand high level plays, it wasn't even, 70-30? They better be right or else they'll look foolish.