Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[26Mats]

You mean for next year? Or for the end of this year?

End of this year.

 

[Colezuki]

I was always a big GCK Lions fans

#foreverLions

My father, and his father, and his father we're lions fans, I'll be damned if they lose to some poverty franchise

 

[Jaynki]

It's so funny that a few months ago Bobrov was getting slammed for the Slaf pick and now we are on to slamming the Reinbacher pick.

Its the same history all over again.

Everybody who paid attention to Reinbacher at the WJC or WC is very fine with the pick.

In hindsight, we made a debate out of Slaf/Wright in 2022 but he was the obvious pick to anybody who paid attention. We dismissed too easily what he has accomplished here, it was truly stellar.

We just have preconceived notion on Wright and Michkov because they are player we hear from since they are 15-16YO and its ingrained in our thoughts that they are the next big thing. But to those who watch the games and pay true attention, things may have evolved differently.

Watch people be surprised when Reinbacher is a top 4D in this team next year and plays rock solid hockey. Just as people were surprised when Slaf suddenly started produce.

Aint it fun.

Can i say it?

Incredible physical athletes with elite tools displaying elite potential at a young age -> Parabolic, exponential growth.

 

[The Last Red]

It's so funny that a few months ago Bobrov was getting slammed for the Slaf pick and now we are on to slamming the Reinbacher pick.

I never slammed the Slaf pick as I wasn’t crazy about Wright or Cooley but passing on Michkov . . . . inexcusable IMO.

 

[Rapala]

It's so funny that a few months ago Bobrov was getting slammed for the Slaf pick and now we are on to slamming the Reinbacher pick.

The thing is that small documentary on how they go about finalizing their selections should have calmed some nerves I would think.
The process was put into action exactly as Hughes described it would be in his very first presser.
I know it's hard for some to take him at his word but he's batting 1000 in that area from my standpoint.
There will no longer be that one man veto that we've seen in the past.

 

[Andy]

For Reinbacher....I don't see elite. Especially not the way I see others chosen after him. Reinbacher IS a NHL player. Will be. I have no doubt. Just don't see him as a typical top 5 pick.

I would like to see him on NA ice surrounded by a development team before proclaiming anything about him.

As an 18 year old in camp he showed great anticipation, gap control and puck movement. He angled himself well to close off lanes and had a great first pass.

granted it was against other rookies, but there were a lot of high end defensive tools there.

A lot of the talk about Reinbacher really reminds me of the concerns about McDonagh in his D+1. I remember Ryan having a really bad WJC where he looked over his head.

 

[Adam Michaels]

End of this year.

Caufield didn't play in Laval when he finished his college career. He signed his ELC and joined Montreal. It was during the 2021 playoff run.

He was sent to Laval the following year.

If a player plays in Montreal, they're not eligible for the AHL. And Hutson will surely join Montreal and won't be eligible for Laval.

I'd love it if he signs an AHL ATO to finish this year and his ELC kicks in next year. But usually, his caliber player will go to Montreal. It's an incentive to sign his ELC.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Alot of Reinbachers *elite* traits that have real upside are things like gap control , active stick , transition game and reads at the blueline , so its tough to judge him off NL games. I think his game suits NA ice much better. I would only start worrying about him if he really struggles in NA , which I think he won't

 

[Tyson]

Caufield didn't play in Laval when he finished his college career. He signed his ELC and joined Montreal. It was during the 2021 playoff run.

He was sent to Laval the following year.

If a player plays in Montreal, they're not eligible for the AHL. And Hutson will surely join Montreal and won't be eligible for Laval.

I'd love it if he signs an AHL ATO to finish this year and his ELC kicks in next year. But usually, his caliber player will go to Montreal. It's an incentive to sign his ELC.

Negative
He signed his ELC played 2 games in laval and scored 3 goals then he played in Montreal for 10 games and another 20 playoff games.

I could be wrong

 

[JianYang]

I'll predict there's a greater chance to be right there though....For Slaf, even if you didn't agree, you could still see what the elite qualities of his game could be. And I stress elite. Not good nor great.

For Reinbacher....I don't see elite. Especially not the way I see others chosen after him. Reinbacher IS a NHL player. Will be. I have no doubt. Just don't see him as a typical top 5 pick. Let say the way Dickinson for me is this year. Geez, I don't have Parekh (who still has a great elite quality), Levshunov, Yakemchuck and Silyaev as a top 5 pick this year....not sure how it translates into seeing Reinbacher a top 5 last year with the likes of Michkov, Leonard, Benson available. But just like this year, I might have seen Reinbacher go around where I see Yakem/Sil/Levshu go this year.

Whether it's a "typical" top 5 pick is irrelevant. The habs can only play with the hand that they are given and in 2023, it looks like the yotes had their sights set to pick reinbacher at number 6, and the flyers also seemed to have tried to trade up to get reinbacher.

 

[Rapala]

Negative
He signed his ELC played 2 games in laval and scored 3 goals then he played in Montreal for 10 games and another 20 playoff games.

I could be wrong

This is what I thought also.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Negative
He signed his ELC played 2 games in laval and scored 3 goals then he played in Montreal for 10 games and another 20 playoff games.

I could be wrong

You're right. I forgot that. .

Apologies @26Mats

Although it is true that if a player plays an NHL game, they're not eligible to go back to AHL.

 

[26Mats]

Caufield didn't play in Laval when he finished his college career. He signed his ELC and joined Montreal. It was during the 2021 playoff run.

He was sent to Laval the following year.

If a player plays in Montreal, they're not eligible for the AHL. And Hutson will surely join Montreal and won't be eligible for Laval.

I'd love it if he signs an AHL ATO to finish this year and his ELC kicks in next year. But usually, his caliber player will go to Montreal. It's an incentive to sign his ELC.

See that's the thing. When Caufiled came up, we were potentially going to go on a playoff run. So it made sense to bring him to MTL to see if he could help.

Whereas this year, we're for sure not going on a playoff run, and Laval could use a push to get into the playoffs and then maybe go on a playoff run. Also we already have 4 LD's in MTL that need ice time. I think each case is different. It may be better to at least start Hutson in Laval, like we did with Caufield. That way, the option remains to have him there for a playoff run.

But I understand there are other factors. Hutson may want to play in Montreal and his agent may make that a condition of him signing, though I doubt he'd do that. But Gorton and Hughes seem to like to get players to Montreal sooner rather than later. So that's another factor pointing to him going to Montreal. If I remember correctly though Hughes said he's for sure turning pro after his NCAA season, we just have to see if it's Laval or Montreal.

 

[red devil]

 

[KevSkillz4]

Great article.

His gap control, his transition and defensive IQ are elite to me.

Reinbacher will shine more in NA ice than Europe, for sure.

 

[salbutera]

 

[KevSkillz4]

Go Lions Go!

Reinbacher need to arrive in NA sonner than later.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I won't quote everyone above but essentially, it seems like arm chair scouts see that only offensive traits can be 'elite' and that other traits can't be, which is why Reinbacher gets undervalued.

Yes his offensive tools aren't elite, but his poise with the puck is elite.. and there's a lot in his defensive game that project to be elite as well.

You simply don't get many chances to draft a smooth skating, rangy, athletic right shot defenseman with ice in their veins.

It doesn't look or sound sexy but as a goalie, and I'm sure what coaches and GMs will tell you, is that having that guy on the ice for 25 minutes a night is invaluable.

Not everything that contributes to winning is sexy and spectacular, sometimes it needs to be understated, subtle and efficient which is what Reinbacher is.

 

[Habssince89]

I won't quote everyone above but essentially, it seems like arm chair scouts see that only offensive traits can be 'elite' and that other traits can't be, which is why Reinbacher gets undervalued.

Yes his offensive tools aren't elite, but his poise with the puck is elite.. and there's a lot in his defensive game that project to be elite as well.

You simply don't get many chances to draft a smooth skating, rangy, athletic right shot defenseman with ice in their veins.

It doesn't look or sound sexy but as a goalie, and I'm sure what coaches and GMs will tell you, is that having that guy on the ice for 25 minutes a night is invaluable.

Not everything that contributes to winning is sexy and spectacular, sometimes it needs to be understated, subtle and efficient which is what Reinbacher is.

He's one of those players whose greatest strength is preventing plays from happening before they begin, and doing so in a boring way haha. So many can get fooled in thinking he doesn't excel anywhere but he's a guy that will control the game and close out leads, which is exactly what we want to complement all the offensive Dmen in the system.

 

[WeThreeKings]

He's one of those players whose greatest strength is preventing plays from happening before they begin, and doing so in a boring way haha. So many can get fooled in thinking he doesn't excel anywhere but he's a guy that will control the game and close out leads, which is exactly what we want to complement all the offensive Dmen in the system.

Exactly. We can't run this team out there Michkov-Cooley-Caufield with Hutson and Parekh on defense and expect to win.

 

[Mudz]

I won't quote everyone above but essentially, it seems like arm chair scouts see that only offensive traits can be 'elite' and that other traits can't be, which is why Reinbacher gets undervalued.

Yes his offensive tools aren't elite, but his poise with the puck is elite.. and there's a lot in his defensive game that project to be elite as well.

You simply don't get many chances to draft a smooth skating, rangy, athletic right shot defenseman with ice in their veins.

It doesn't look or sound sexy but as a goalie, and I'm sure what coaches and GMs will tell you, is that having that guy on the ice for 25 minutes a night is invaluable.

Not everything that contributes to winning is sexy and spectacular, sometimes it needs to be understated, subtle and efficient which is what Reinbacher is.

Good point. It's particularly easy too see with the bunch of scouting done on YT.

When it comes to talk about the defensive side of the puck and flaws of a prospect, it becomes evident that most never played a high level of hockey. The clips used never support their points.

Only point I'll had is his passing is elite and we've being missing a pmd since Markov is gone.

 

[Andy]

He's one of those players whose greatest strength is preventing plays from happening before they begin, and doing so in a boring way haha. So many can get fooled in thinking he doesn't excel anywhere but he's a guy that will control the game and close out leads, which is exactly what we want to complement all the offensive Dmen in the system.

Weber had an exceptional physical game, but his biggest skill was preventing plays from happening. He read the play so well that forwards literally could not skate by him or make a decent passing play. They had no choice but to dump the puck behind him, at which point he'd toss you off the puck.

It wasn't sexy, but prime Weber was pretty impossible to play against because of his ability to take away the play with his poise, gap control and anticipation.

It was never recognized here, but when Subban wasn't being flashy, he also game forwards are hard time making plays. They had to dump the puck to get by him at defensive blue line.

Exactly. We can't run this team out there Michkov-Cooley-Caufield with Hutson and Parekh on defense and expect to win.

Another reason why folks weren't impressed with Struble until they saw him on the big club. Struble's best assests are his play without the puck and his positioning.

Boring defense is successful defense.

 

[HomaridII]

And so it begins.

Game 7 of the Swiss League Stanley Cup about to start lol

 

[EveryDay]

And so it begins.

Game 7 of the Swiss League Stanley Cup about to start lol

Let's see who score 1st!

 

[Whitesnake]

WE SCORE!!!!!!!!! Euh...GCK Lions score!!! 1-0. Weak positioning by the goalie. From behind the goal line. Nice shot though.

WE SCORE AGAIN!