Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Hes been contradicting himself left and right.

I hate Hughes so much, this whole "smarter" than everyone in the room aura he has makes the peoples elbow itch.
The idiots who thought that Carolina would fold on an offer sheet due to having no money were the guys acting smarter than anyone in the room.

Hughes seems more like a guy who just wants to be smart enough to get what he wants while making the other party feel they got what they wanted too - not the guy who has to crush every person he deals with.

The fact that he closes lots of deals on terms we think are reasonable bears out Hughes' approach.
 
Nothing against our top pick this year or our top pick last year but those weren’t the picks I would do

I really hope both our number 1 picks pan out and we don’t become the Edmonton oilers of the east

Or we will be in perpetual re build
I'm starting to get sick of people mentioning the bolded as if there was another legit superstar pick we passed on. Like honestly, who would you take at 1? Can we just accept that the draft class DID NOT HAVE A CONOR BEDARD LEVEL TALENT. As of now, Slaf was the right pick or atleast there can be a debate. The 1st overall pick is used to pick the best player of that class, not the best player in the last 5 classes. So much delusion here man it gets frustrating to read.
 
Former agents haven’t been successful GMs in the NHLbut our city embraced Hughes because of the last GM’s tenure which was disaster and ruin.

I have very little faith in Hughes. This time the new GM needs to earn it.
I am positive when it comes to Hughes' cap management, with the possible exception of the Allen contract. However, even there, I understand the bet hedging he did.

Hughes resisted overpaying Pitlick after a good run, same with RHP. He did not qualify Gurianov even though he traded for him. No ego. He made affordable deals with Dach and Newhook, closed the Monahan deal.

I think Hughes' trades were mostly good.

He also seems to have a significant number of guys buying into our rebuilding project.

The jury is out on his drafting, as is normal in such a short time on the job.
 
t wouldn’t be though. Sergachev was a 3rd pair top PP guy, at best, for years. He raised that in the last half, last season. I am convinced he would not have had this much time in MTL. He would have been treated as a Patrice Brisebois type of player.

So, without the trade, I don’t think Sergachev is seen as a very good pick today.
Wow, such contortions. "Not a good pick" - LOL !

Since 2009 - Leblanc, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Galchenyuk, McCarron, Scherbak, Juulsen, Sergachev, Poehling, Kotkaniemi, Caufield, Guhle, Mailloux.

Too soon on the last two to judge.

Caufield is the only other guy close to Sergachev in terms of impact or even current salary/market value.
 
At which point, will we reach a point where each thread aren't about management bashing and Michkov ? There is separate threads for that. I know people were invested in the 2023 draft and felt let down by some of the choices but it's difficult to have a hockey conversation about something else anywhere in the sub forum.
There is next to zero discussion actually about hockey on this forum. It’s all whining about management, politics, fanbases, this forum (ironic, I know). I literally could not care less about any of that stuff and I can’t see how whining about stuff you have no control over is so enjoyable for people. At least talking about hockey can be fun, even if you think the Habs and their management suck.
 
Former agents haven’t been successful GMs in the NHLbut our city embraced Hughes because of the last GM’s tenure which was disaster and ruin.

I have very little faith in Hughes. This time the new GM needs to earn it.

Brian Burke, Dean Lombardi, Ray Shero, Pierre Lacroix and Peter Chiarelli are all former agents who won cups.

Not saying all these guys (especially Chiarelli) are good GMs, but there have been former agents who have been successful as GMs.
 
I wanna talk about our prospect, expectations about them and learn from other's people past viewings about them. As you watch more tape about Reinbacher i'm more interested about what you can tell me about his game.
Ive watched a lot of Reinbacher prior to the draft. I was the first on HF boards to have him in the top 5, at 5.

Im still mad that we drafted him. That should tell you all we need to know, that the person that was the highest on DR is mad we passed on Michkov.
 
There is next to zero discussion actually about hockey on this forum. It’s all whining about management, politics, fanbases, this forum (ironic, I know). I literally could not care less about any of that stuff and I can’t see how whining about stuff you have no control over is so enjoyable for people. At least talking about hockey can be fun, even if you think the Habs and their management suck.

I think it was a bit better before the draft but yeah i agree.
 
I'm starting to get sick of people mentioning the bolded as if there was another legit superstar pick we passed on. Like honestly, who would you take at 1? Can we just accept that the draft class DID NOT HAVE A CONOR BEDARD LEVEL TALENT. As of now, Slaf was the right pick or atleast there can be a debate. The 1st overall pick is used to pick the best player of that class, not the best player in the last 5 classes. So much delusion here man it gets frustrating to read.
Jiricek, Cooley, and Nemec would all go before him if the draft was redone today and I don’t think there would be much of an argument for him being in the conversation with them right now. Slaf/Wright would be a toss up. These guys are only 19 so a lot can change fast.
 
I wanna talk about our prospect, expectations about them and learn from other's people past viewings about them. As you watch more tape about Reinbacher i'm more interested about what you can tell me about his game.

The thing that is enticing is that he was a relative unknown who ended up being the consensus top defenseman in the draft.

He didn't do it by punking a bunch of teenagers. He did it by being a top pairing defenseman in a very good European pro league, against men and putting up the 2nd best numbers in that league for a draft eligible ever.

Big kid who can skate, kills plays with his stick, activates offensively, has a shot that can score goals at the NHL level. His panic threshold with the puck against heavy, evolved and pro level forecheck is astounding. Making the right read every time and reloading rather than forcing a play.

Try to catch some tape, don't listen to someone in these threads who will tell you their scouting word is gospel but has turned on their pick for 1 OA for last year already.

The floor is great here, the question will be, can something break for Reinbacher offensively, be it improved handling, more evolved playmaking or walking the line better, or really progressing his shot.

One of those things goes above average and I think we are feeling good even if we might not feel sexy
 
Jiricek, Cooley, and Nemec would all go before him if the draft was redone today and I don’t think there would be much of an argument for him being in the conversation with them right now. Slaf/Wright would be a toss up. These guys are only 19 so a lot can change fast.
That’s an exercice you do many years after the draft, not one year. As of now neither of the guys you named played in the NHL, they play in lower league, why wouldn’t he be in conversation with them.
 
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Jiricek, Cooley, and Nemec would all go before him if the draft was redone today and I don’t think there would be much of an argument for him being in the conversation with them right now. Slaf/Wright would be a toss up. These guys are only 19 so a lot can change fast.
This is just ridiculous lol, Stop posting your opinion as fact. Slaf is very much in the discussion for that 1st overall spot with 3-4 other guys, that's fact whether he's your guy or not.

EDIT: Last comment here about that, already derailed the thread enough
 
Hes been contradicting himself left and right.

I hate Hughes so much, this whole "smarter" than everyone in the room aura he has makes the peoples elbow itch.
I think for a number of you, hating management is your reason to exist on these boards. You will hate the next guy as well, and the guy after that and you will hate all the players these guys acquire as part of that pathology. Very obvious, repetitive and quite boring.

And with respect, regarding smartest person..... I don't get that from Hughes but I do see it every day on these boards, and it's strong in this thread. As if anyone here has enough insight to decide if the AHL or Swiss League is the best place for our young guys to start. As if anyone around here has talked to Reinbacher, his coaches in the Swiss league, his parents or have insight into the plans in Laval. Much less fully scouted him pre draft, seen him workout, etc etc. How could you think you could make the proper call without any of that info unless you believe you are the smartest guy in the room?
 
Wow, such contortions. "Not a good pick" - LOL !

Since 2009 - Leblanc, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Galchenyuk, McCarron, Scherbak, Juulsen, Sergachev, Poehling, Kotkaniemi, Caufield, Guhle, Mailloux.

Too soon on the last two to judge.

Caufield is the only other guy close to Sergachev in terms of impact or even current salary/market value.
Pretty sure Sergachev would be inline with the others had he been a Habs.

Caufield, Guhle and Mailloux have the advantage of the new management, including MSL.

Remember Caufield before MSL? He could have went either way. Sergachev would be nothing special had he stayed a Habs under the last management.
 
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I think for a number of you, hating management is your reason to exist on these boards. You will hate the next guy as well, and the guy after that and you will hate all the players these guys acquire as part of that pathology. Very obvious, repetitive and quite boring.

And with respect, regarding smartest person..... I don't get that from Hughes but I do see it every day on these boards, and it's strong in this thread. As if anyone here has enough insight to decide if the AHL or Swiss League is the best place for our young guys to start. As if anyone around here has talked to Reinbacher, his coaches in the Swiss league, his parents or have insight into the plans in Laval. Much less fully scouted him pre draft, seen him workout, etc etc. How could you think you could make the proper call without any of that info unless you believe you are the smartest guy in the room?
Ya buddy the Habs have been chronically bad, maybe that's the root of the problem.

Literally the joke of the league and the only reason we got success is because they got lucky to draft one of the GOAT goaltenders to completely waste his prime.

Theres a reason for the doom and gloom and its not on the fans.
 
There is next to zero discussion actually about hockey on this forum. It’s all whining about management, politics, fanbases, this forum (ironic, I know). I literally could not care less about any of that stuff and I can’t see how whining about stuff you have no control over is so enjoyable for people. At least talking about hockey can be fun, even if you think the Habs and their management suck.

There can be joy in release, but release is not about joy. :dunno:
 
It wouldn’t be though. Sergachev was a 3rd pair top PP guy, at best, for years. He raised that in the last half, last season. I am convinced he would not have had this much time in MTL. He would have been treated as a Patrice Brisebois type of player.

So, without the trade, I don’t think Sergachev is seen as a very good pick today.
The results are in.............................................he is a 1-2 Dman with Tampa. A much better team.

This was Bergevin's best pick in his first 7 years. Unfortunately we traded him for a joke of a player and got burnt like toast.
 
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Ya buddy the Habs have been chronically bad, maybe that's the root of the problem.

Literally the joke of the league and the only reason we got success is because they got lucky to draft one of the GOAT goaltenders to completely waste his prime.

Theres a reason for the doom and gloom and its not on the fans.

the doom & gloom is on people like you, glass is always half-empty, management can’t draft, can’t develop, can’t deploy properly, coaching staff sucks, ownerships sucks

The worse part is you pretend your feelings are representative of the consensus or even a sizeable portion of the fan base. Clearly they will make mistakes and we all disagree with some of the moves they made or will make but doom & gloom ? :rolleyes:
 
I think for a number of you, hating management is your reason to exist on these boards. You will hate the next guy as well, and the guy after that and you will hate all the players these guys acquire as part of that pathology. Very obvious, repetitive and quite boring.

And with respect, regarding smartest person..... I don't get that from Hughes but I do see it every day on these boards, and it's strong in this thread. As if anyone here has enough insight to decide if the AHL or Swiss League is the best place for our young guys to start. As if anyone around here has talked to Reinbacher, his coaches in the Swiss league, his parents or have insight into the plans in Laval. Much less fully scouted him pre draft, seen him workout, etc etc. How could you think you could make the proper call without any of that info unless you believe you are the smartest guy in the room?
Funny you say that. I think for a number of you, expressing a holier than thou attitude in which you look down on people who criticize management is your reason to exist on these boards. It's honestly getting really tiresome. People who "hate" management are bringing forward their well thought out or otherwise reasons. Push back with your own reasons why you may disagree. Instead we get comments like "Yawn", "LOL", "It's way too early to say anything", "No one knows anything", "Are you the prospects parents?? What do you know?". How is that any better or constructive?
 
The results are in.............................................he is a 1-2 Dman with Tampa. A much better team.

This was Bergevin's best pick in his first 7 years. Unfortunately we traded him for a joke of a player and got burnt like toast.
He has 40 games where he is decent against tougher opposition (not 3rd pair). The year before, there were times he struggled with that opposition (3rd pair) too.

The PP skill, he has had for a while.

So sure, he seems to be solidifying his game because that’s what his last 40ish games indicate. I wouldn’t call that a career yet though and I am convinced he wouldn’t have achieved that in Montreal under MB and Lapointe.
 
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That’s an exercice you do many years after the draft, not one year. As of now neither of the guys you named played in the NHL, they play in lower league, why wouldn’t he be in conversation with them.
I agree with you that it’s too early which is why I said they’re only 19 and things can change fast. But Slafkovsky did nothing to show last year that he’s ahead of the one’s I listed despite him being in the NHL which is why he would fall off significantly to where he was when he became a high riser at the draft imo. A lot of that does have to do with him not being put in a position to succeed like some of the others did, but what scout watching them last year could justify him still being worth of a 1st overall draft pick over the players that play more in demand positions? He has a big frame but scouts would’ve saw him getting tossed around by 5’9 Rossi and his offensive potential was nowhere to be seen.
 
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