If I were in Pasta's shoes, I'd wait and see what 37 and 46 do. That just makes a lot of sense to me. Even if he really wants to stay in Boston, I would expect him to wait and see about that first. It's February, he has all the time in the world.
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The vast majority of today's pro athletes (95%) are nothing but mercenarie, the reward being money or titles, I wouldn't hold Pastrnak leaving against him. Guys like Bergeron are absolutely the exception to the rule.
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It doesn’t matter. I get he’s worried. It doesn’t matter where he plays if he’s making top three money, that team becomes top heavy. For him to play with a really good center, that center needs to be paid. The situation follows him where ever he goes. He can either give the B’s a break or not. But he can help with his concern and get eight years instead of seven. The money isn’t going to change at this point. It’s not going up. I think both parties know where his on ice tallies are going. Both are negotiating with that in mind. There is no garuntee another team can put a better team together. B’s have good pieces still. Even if one of the two centers leave.
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So you'll sing Pasta for 12 mils but you'll let him go at 12.5 million.
I have to wonder what do expect to get in UFA for your money. You can probably get Kane for 10-12 as UFA.. It looks better as" Let's get the best available winger out there" until you check what's out there.
If you are lucky, you can get Tavares who never got close to Pasta's numbers (it's not impossible to consider he might have two Rocket Richard trophies by the end of the year) at 11 mills on 7 year contract home town discount including.
I get it would be nice to sign him for another below-market deal, but the reality is, if he walks, you are replacing him with an inferior player while not saving much in cap space...
at 15 mills it might be a wash, you can get two solid players, and replace him by committee.
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Last 6 years he played on the best contract in the league, I'm not sure if he owes Bruins anything.
With all the respect to Bergeron, Pasta is 26 years old gunning for the 2nd Rocket Richard Trophy heading into free agency. Not many comparables and that includes Bergeron.
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If he scores 60 he might be the goal-scorer in the league. He's chasing McDavid who's playing 3min + more than Pasta every game. Pasta would have to play some 100 games to have his minutes
. 26 years old UFAFor those interested in some context :
He had hip surgery limiting his off-season two years ago.
His 6 days old son passed away 1 year ago during his offseason (June 23).
I consider these two seasons outliers for obvious reasons but understand if you don't.
The Bs need to sign Pasta. I will be VERY pissed off if they don't.
David is a special player....one that doesn't come around very often. His unique talent is scoring goals. ANY team would love to have him. He also is becoming a leader and brings SO MUCH positive energy to the Bs. I love the kid.
Please Don....sign Pasta.
Ivo
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Agree 100%. I would be very pissed off, if they let him walk. Sure, cap space is valuable, but what are you going to do with it? Overpay some UFAs who are not even close to the kind of player Pasta is?
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quietbruinfan
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Actually, I would go 12.5 and no higher. I begin to get the feeling this will work like the very last-minute Malkin deal, which one of the pundits said in the first place.
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I think Sweeny wants nothing more than to sign Pasta and Im sure he's doing his best to a get a deal done, but if Pasta really wants to go through the Free agency experience, there's nothing Sweeney can do about it. Pasta earned that right, hopefully he does choose the Bruins when its all said and done, but if he decides to go else-where I wouldn't feel it was because the bruins didn't throw the whole kitchen at him, its because Pasta wanted out. imo.
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When it comes to stars, it's basically impossible to overpay them based on how the market values them, so there's really no realistic number that will be an overpayment. The whole competitiveness and center questions are insignificant. If Sweeney hit the number J.P. Barry wanted, Pastrnak would be signed.
Therefore, the only reason he isn't signed is because Sweeney has been trying to get a good deal on the contract (or, unsurprisingly, is terrible at self-evaluation, which he has shown to be time and time again). He's either going to lose an irreplaceable player for nothing or ending up paying much more than he would have if he just was willing to hit Barry's ask back in July. It shouldn't have been a complicated deal, just frontloaded money with max signing bonus, like all of the other recent star deals. They've refused to do that in the past and I'm guessing that's why we're in this incredibly frustrating position.
Therefore, the only reason he isn't signed is because Sweeney has been trying to get a good deal on the contract (or, unsurprisingly, is terrible at self-evaluation, which he has shown to be time and time again). He's either going to lose an irreplaceable player for nothing or ending up paying much more than he would have if he just was willing to hit Barry's ask back in July. It shouldn't have been a complicated deal, just frontloaded money with max signing bonus, like all of the other recent star deals. They've refused to do that in the past and I'm guessing that's why we're in this incredibly frustrating position.
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Agreed. Irony being if you went to them and said "hey, can you give up $5k of your salary so the company can spend more?" they'd tell you to F off
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How is he terrible at “self-evaluation”? Even the most ardent Sweeney haters have admitted he’s been excellent at signing his own guys.
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Maybe it's a leap in this case in terms of extensions, but my view is that he's shown an inability to fill holes in the team and learn from mistakes (particularly looking at drafting here), which suggests to me that he doesn't evaluate himself or his team all that well.
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players like Pasta comes around once in lifetime and there won't be contracts like this very often. Just sign him and be done with it.
Which holes on the team?
Every team in the league could improve in an area or two on their roster. They also miss out on draft picks.
There's nothing the Bruins are in absolute need of at this moment. Like most good teams, they're looking for things to help with depth and for the playoff grind and doing due dillegence on bigger names if it means improving in an area without gutting what's already in place. I think you're way off here in your assessment of management's team evaluation.
The ONLY reason? There are a TON of possible reasons, most of which there's nothing sweeney can do about today.
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I think Donny is having a hard time with Pastrnaks camp myself or this deal been done already.Have to think Pastrnak camp now stalling it waiting on goal totals to rise and thus drive price up.
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Pure spitballing here.
I will be ultra pissed if it comes out that the Bs would have been able to have signed Pasta Summer/Fall of last year for the nieighborhood of 10.5-11.5M, but held off trying to get him for a hometown discount of 9.5-10.5. Then as the season went on and Pasta started putting up sick goal numbers his camp pulled back and realized his value was increasing.
Pasta has held most of the cards for several months now. He has not had much reason to get a deal done unless the Bs wanted to pay him fair value. Even though some have disagreed with me, I still maintain he could get 13M+ from someone as a FA this summer. I guess a lot depends on whether or not he wants to play on a contender.
I'm sticking with the notion that 12M per would be a fair deal for both parties provided that Pasta truly loves Boston and wants to remain a B. I hope to goodness that DS is willing to part with that kind of money to keep Pasta. I won't explain it in detail again, but the market is about to get crazy now that it's obvious the cap will be going up a lot over the next 4 or so years.
One of the best goal scorers in the league about to get his best chance at a big payday does not want to be playing a few years from now while watching inferior talents getting well more than him.
The NHL is a business and Pasta is an elite talent. He should be paid as such. I'm not saying give him a blank check. At 13M I likely say thanks for the memories and part ways. At 12M it's a no-brainer. Anything in between I have to give things some thought. The encouraging thing is that DS has a track record of getting great deals done with talented players. Keeping my fingers crossed that he does the same thing with Pasta.
I will be ultra pissed if it comes out that the Bs would have been able to have signed Pasta Summer/Fall of last year for the nieighborhood of 10.5-11.5M, but held off trying to get him for a hometown discount of 9.5-10.5. Then as the season went on and Pasta started putting up sick goal numbers his camp pulled back and realized his value was increasing.
Pasta has held most of the cards for several months now. He has not had much reason to get a deal done unless the Bs wanted to pay him fair value. Even though some have disagreed with me, I still maintain he could get 13M+ from someone as a FA this summer. I guess a lot depends on whether or not he wants to play on a contender.
I'm sticking with the notion that 12M per would be a fair deal for both parties provided that Pasta truly loves Boston and wants to remain a B. I hope to goodness that DS is willing to part with that kind of money to keep Pasta. I won't explain it in detail again, but the market is about to get crazy now that it's obvious the cap will be going up a lot over the next 4 or so years.
One of the best goal scorers in the league about to get his best chance at a big payday does not want to be playing a few years from now while watching inferior talents getting well more than him.
The NHL is a business and Pasta is an elite talent. He should be paid as such. I'm not saying give him a blank check. At 13M I likely say thanks for the memories and part ways. At 12M it's a no-brainer. Anything in between I have to give things some thought. The encouraging thing is that DS has a track record of getting great deals done with talented players. Keeping my fingers crossed that he does the same thing with Pasta.
BigBadBruins7708
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Yup, agreed.
If they came to him last summer with 8/88 he'd be signed already. Willing to bet their best offer then was matching McAvoy's 9.5 per
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