Player Discussion David Pastrnak XIII -Report, Extension to be announced Today!

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[Gee Wally]

Hope Pasta sees this.

 

[NDiesel]

She's like the 5th person who reported this the past 4 months. I hope it's true but there really isn't any reason for him not to get other offers in July at this point. I hope he signs.

8 years vs. 7 years is one major reason.

 

[LouJersey]

8 years vs. 7 years is one major reason.

8/80 or 7/87. Only takes one insane team, especially if the Bruins aren’t meeting his guarantee number or coming in low

 

[NDiesel]

8/80 or 7/87. Only takes one insane team, especially if the Bruins aren’t meeting his guarantee number or coming in low

Fair enough, and to add I'm not sure how valuable that extra year is for players, I could see it going either way in that:

They want that 8th year just in case any major decline/injury happens.

They prefer 7 years so that they are one year younger when they sign what is likely one of their last big contracts.

 

[DKH]

He’s gone so let’s just embrace the time we have left

 

[LouJersey]

Fair enough, and to add I'm not sure how valuable that extra year is for players, I could see it going either way in that:

They want that 8th year just in case any major decline/injury happens.

They prefer 7 years so that they are one year younger when they sign what is likely one of their last big contracts.

I honestly think once he sits down to look at this his agent will say here is the Bruins offer and here is what I could get you he will ultimately stay and leave something on the table

 

[NDiesel]

I honestly think once he sits down to look at this his agent will say here is the Bruins offer and here is what I could get you he will ultimately stay and leave something on the table

I agree, but I'm sure we all feel the same way that until it gets done we will all be anxious about that slim chance that he does leave.

 

[DKH]

I honestly think once he sits down to look at this his agent will say here is the Bruins offer and here is what I could get you he will ultimately stay and leave something on the table

If you adopt the mind set he’s going you won’t be disappointed if he leaves and be joyful he stays

San Jose will have money once they trade Meier and that’s where he’s going to play with Hertl

 

[LouJersey]

If you adopt the mind set he’s going you won’t be disappointed if he leaves and be joyful he stays

San Jose will have money once they trade Meier and that’s where he’s going to play with Hertl

Im 100 pct positive he’s staying.

 

[Johnny4778]

Yeah, no. Market value is market value. Scoring is always a premium that will get paid in this league

 

[Johnny4778]

Yeah, no. Market value is market value. Scoring is always a premium that will get paid in this league.

Sure. If Bergy and Krejci operated on market value, we would be a bubble team right now. When he is 50 years old he will remember championships and the bond he made winning those with his friends. The difference between 150M career earnings and 125M will not impact his lifestyle. He needs to decided what matters most.

 

[Gee Wally]

Sure. If Bergy and Krejci operated on market value, we would be a bubble team right now. When he is 50 years old he will remember championships and the bond he made winning those with his friends. The difference between 150M career earnings and 125M will not impact his lifestyle. He needs to decided what matters most.

true. He needs to decide.
Having said that no one here is fit to judge what is enough for him. Maybe he wants to build a hospital? Who are we to know or judge.

So, it far different than “ he needs to decide what matters most………to us”

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Sure. If Bergy and Krejci operated on market value, we would be a bubble team right now. When he is 50 years old he will remember championships and the bond he made winning those with his friends. The difference between 150M career earnings and 125M will not impact his lifestyle. He needs to decided what matters most.

Yeah I mean what’s $25M between friends right?

 

[LSCII]

Sure. If Bergy and Krejci operated on market value, we would be a bubble team right now. When he is 50 years old he will remember championships and the bond he made winning those with his friends. The difference between 150M career earnings and 125M will not impact his lifestyle. He needs to decided what matters most.

You can say that all you want, but the front office f***ed this one up. You want and expect guys to sign below market value deals, you have to go them early and give them something to do so. Like they did with McAvoy. He signed early and got more initially per year than he would have had he waited, but probably got less overall had he held out longer. Both parties won. You let Pasta get to free agency at seasons end after he’s having a crazy season, well shit man, that’s on them.

 

[Johnny4778]

Yeah I mean what’s $25M between friends right?

$25 M from a net worth of 1M is a lot.. from 100M to 125M… what is it really? He gonna get a bigger house and boat? You think he spends it all or his kids or grandkids do in their lifetimes? You can’t take it with you… stay in the town you become a man… get your fat fat paycheck and win multiple championships.

 

[Gee Wally]

$25 M from a net worth of 1M is a lot.. from 100M to 125M… what is it really? He gonna get a bigger house and boat? You think he spends it all or his kids or grandkids do in their lifetimes? You can’t take it with you… stay in the town you become a man… get your fat fat paycheck and win multiple championships.

what youre leaving out is thats what you would do.

 

[Johnny4778]

true. He needs to decide.
Having said that no one here is fit to judge what is enough for him. Maybe he wants to build a hospital? Who are we to know or judge.

So, it far different than “ he needs to decide what matters most………to us”

Agree. Life factors into it. He may like surfing in California or golfing in Arizona. Great player and I hope he is here for his career.

what youre leaving out is thats what you would do.

absolutely. 100% without a doubt. And that’s what Marchand and Bergy and Krejci and Bourque did… none of us are suffering.

 

[Gee Wally]

Agree. Life factors into it. He may like surfing in California or golfing in Arizona. Great player and I hope he is here for his career.

absolutely. 100% without a doubt. And that’s what Marchand and Bergy and Krejci and Bourque did… none of us are suffering.

yeah. Which means the point is moot. Everyone decides whats best for themselves. Not for someone else.

I don’t begrudge anyone what they make. None of my business. My needs probably arent the same as theirs or even valid.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

People need to stop implying that staying in Boston for “cheap money” inherently buys you a better shot at a championship than elsewhere. This is becoming a common trope and I don’t get it. There’s a whole lot of nothing guaranteeing the Bruins are going to be anywhere near as good in the next decade as they’ve been in the last decade.

As much as I’d like to think Boston always has winning teams, the first years of my life say otherwise and there are plenty of those that have been around for longer who can speak to it even more.

 

[Gee Wally]

People need to stop implying that staying in Boston for “cheap money” inherently buys you a better shot at a championship than elsewhere. This is becoming a common trope and I don’t get it. There’s a whole lot of nothing guaranteeing the Bruins are going to be anywhere near as good in the next decade as they’ve been in the last decade.

As much as I’d like to think Boston always has winning teams, the first years of my life say otherwise and there are plenty of those that have been around for longer who can speak to it even more.

true, not when theyre spending the ‘extra’ on Reilly, Smith, Moore, Foligno, and all the previous buyouts. ….

 

[Johnny4778]

yeah. Which means the point is moot. Everyone decides whats best for themselves. Not for someone else.

I don’t begrudge anyone what they make. None of my business. My needs probably arent the same as theirs or even valid.

I don’t hold it against him if he wants max dollars and goes to UFA. My opinion is I hope we don’t pay him like he is Macdavid + , and I hope he chooses winning versus some extra coin. If he chooses different he is still a great player and I wish him all the best.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

true, not when theyre spending the ‘extra’ on Reilly, Smith, Moore, Foligno, and all the previous buyouts. ….

And when there’s really no core anywhere near the strength of what we’ve had coming down the pike in the coming years.

They wouldn’t be the first team to face uncertainty and manage their way out of it. Judging from reading this board, I think I’m higher on the FO/Sweeney than plenty of others. But if Pasta signed a deal with a “hometown discount”, he easily could be looking at taking below market value + multiple years of missing the playoffs/not competing.

I know he loves the city and the team. Hopefully it’s enough to get him to stay and take a team friendly deal but I won’t hate the guy if he makes a different decision.

 

[Johnny4778]

true, not when theyre spending the ‘extra’ on Reilly, Smith, Moore, Foligno, and all the previous buyouts. ….

Certainly agree there has been some over pay in some areas. And I don’t think it’s Boston specific.. in terms of take a deal so we win. What I do think is that any team having high end multiple players paid at market value (like they are UFA’s on open market) significantly hurts a teams chances. Loyalty and winning combined with what’s best for your life supersede a paycheck in my humble opinion (Even more so when one already has 40M in their checking account). Having said all that we absolutely overpaid for several players and the mistake was made paying Charlie Macvoy 9.5M .. but he was 2+ years younger and bruins were selling farm on their traditional stud dman.

 

[Matt8871]

Not many of you guys acknowledge that these players are risking injury and are all in on hockey. They deserve their worth and if they wont get it here they’ll get it somewhere. If they wouldnt, Pasta would have no leverage.

Do not conflate players not taking a discount with being greedy. It’s a privilege to have Bergeron and Krejci back playing for us for how little they took and i revere them taking a higher risk relative to the rest of the league (by earning far under their value) but I certainly won’t fault any player for getting their worth while theyve perfomed well in a contract year.

By all analytics (am i allowed to say that?) Pasta is going to stay here but it’s not going to be a fun negotiation. In a sport with lots of volatility, he could score 0 more career goals after this season and is still worth the 11 milly + hes about to get. He risked injury worked hard and performed well to bring himself here.