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Confirmed with Link: David Nonis TML GM|Brian Burke Hired as Senior Advisor - II

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leafers said:
Does this really change much in terms of direction and identity of the team? Nonis has the same philosophy (although more patient) and Burke is staying as senior adviser where he will most likely have inputs but not the final say.
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I`d be surprised if Burke has any say. They have to pay him, he can`t bad mouth the organization or he probably loses his pay.
 
leafers said:
Does this really change much in terms of direction and identity of the team? Nonis has the same philosophy (although more patient) and Burke is staying as senior adviser where he will most likely have inputs but not the final say.
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Burke isn't going to stay as the Senior Advisor for long. He's pretty much out of the picture, but you're pretty much on the money in regards to a lack of a significant change in regards to how this team is going to be run.
 
I give it until Saturday before all the Burke haters fill their void with Nonis' name.




If you were okay with the job Burke was doing, Nonis was the best possible alternative (although youd likely still rather Burke)

If you hated the job Burke did, Nonis is your worst nightmare.

MLSE effectively just replaced Sugar with Splenda. Meant to do the same thing, but in the end it doesn't taste quite as good.
 
Did none of you listen to the presser?

The only information that entire press conference conveyed was that Nonis is going to be a more Patient GM - and that he is going to assess some of the players on roster that do not fit with new direction.
 
topched said:
I give it until Saturday before all the Burke haters fill their void with Nonis' name.




If you were okay with the job Burke was doing, Nonis was the best possible alternative (although youd likely still rather Burke)

If you hated the job Burke did, Nonis is your worst nightmare.

MLSE effectively just replaced Sugar with Splenda.
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Precisely.
 
Anybody else nervous that the new ownership just turned the organization over to "the guy in the next office."

I know that is harsh - Nonis is qualified for the job - but wouldn't responsible owners want to at least talk to candidates outside the organization? Would they not at least wanted to interview somebody from an organization like Detroit or New Jersey - teams with long track records of success? Or somebody from LA or Chicago? Two high profile teams that recently rebuilt and won championships?
 
mrmyheadhurts said:
A few notes from a Canucks fan:

A) Nonis, despite his demeanor, is no push over. He was under immense pressure to make a splash by acquiring Brad Richards. Nonis stuck to his guns and the Canucks kept Kesler and Edler, much to the benefit of the Canucks. He is quieter than Burke, but so is a wood chipper.

B) His drafting record is, to be blunt, poor. Raymond and Grabner are the only two payers that had any impact in his 3 drafts. Of course, he also drafted the late Luc Bourdon, so who knows what could have been. Patrick White, is by far, his most spectacular drafting fail.

C) He deserves this shot. He was a bit of a victim to an ownership change in Vancouver, now he is a beneficiary.

D) Is he more "corporate"? Sure, but just because he is more agreeable doesn't make him any better or worse than Burke. Nonis has worked for Burke for most of his career, they share many of the same philosophies on the game. Nonis is more conservative and pragmatic but they both want the same type of team. I don't think your team is any worse off or better because of this move. It's a personality shift, not a philosophy change. Whether that's a good thing or not depends on how you feel about the last 4 seasons.


Hoping for the Leafs to make the playoffs, regardless of whether Luongo is in net for your team. It's more fun when the big Canadian markets like Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver are in the post season. For what it's worth, if you do manage to steal Luongo, your chances of making the post season increase immeasurably.
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This is also the third GM job he has gotten by Burke being fired. I think he is okay, but he seems to be the guy who happens to be there when Burke is done. Time will tell if he does anything, but I am preparing for more of the same as what Burke provided as GM. :help:
 
Just got in. I can't read all these posts so this may be a redundant thought.

I don't see a big difference.

Burke is an adviser now, but he's still in the system.

Just means Nonis doesn't have to ask Burke for permission, he'll just ask him for advice.
 
Wow I can't believe this, not sure how I feel. I don't know much about nonis. I wonder which direction the team is headed now? proper rebuild? or build by trades?
 
Maybe they "demoted" Burke to "Senior Advisor".

Put Nonis in to get the Luongo trade done (which Burke refused to do)

Then "demote" Nonis back to Assistant GM, and promoted their newest "Senior Advisor" to General Manager.

Burke is GM. Luongo is the Goalie.

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:sarcasm:
 
ULF_55 said:
Just got in. I can't read all these posts so this may be a redundant thought.

I don't see a big difference.

Burke is an adviser now, but he's still in the system.

Just means Nonis doesn't have to ask Burke for permission, he'll just ask him for advice.
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Bobby Mac basically said the only reason he's an advisor is to keep him quiet until he finds another job.
 
iArts said:
Apparently Nonis said "We are not permitted to discuss PENDING transactions." when asked about Luongo?

Pretty easy to tell what his means.
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He also said something along the lines of "it wouldn't help move anything along".
 
Incredibly weird timing. At least Nonis will be fluid in terms organizational knowledge, but what are they thinking, going into a shortened season, new CBA, now with a lame duck coach and management. Brutal timing. It doesn't sound like Nonis was even given a heads up, hey guess what pal you are the new GM of the Leafs, never mind you only have a week to formulate your own philosophy and implement it under a new CBA and shortened training camp and season. Oh and you need to have a winning team immediately because if you get off to a slow start, your season is over. No wonder the guy looks like a train hit him. Moronic move by corporate errand boys.
 
Donmega said:
Wow I can't believe this, not sure how I feel. I don't know much about nonis. I wonder which direction the team is headed now? proper rebuild? or build by trades?
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Same direction it was going probably. Nothing has changed much in that regard.

Nonis was the right hand man of Burke so he likely agreed pretty much with all the trades and signings to this point.
 
topched said:
I give it until Saturday before all the Burke haters fill their void with Nonis' name.




If you were okay with the job Burke was doing, Nonis was the best possible alternative (although youd likely still rather Burke)

If you hated the job Burke did, Nonis is your worst nightmare.

MLSE effectively just replaced Sugar with Splenda. Meant to do the same thing, but in the end it doesn't taste quite as good.
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Haha I like it :handclap:
 
Longshot said:
Anybody else nervous that the new ownership just turned the organization over to "the guy in the next office."

I know that is harsh - Nonis is qualified for the job - but wouldn't responsible owners want to at least talk to candidates outside the organization? Would they not at least wanted to interview somebody from an organization like Detroit or New Jersey - teams with long track records of success? Or somebody from LA or Chicago? Two high profile teams that recently rebuilt and won championships?
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No because I think Burke, Nonis, and the rest of the management team have been doing a good job and I'd like to see the general long term direction of the team that I see continue. Vancouver is a result of Burke & Nonis for the most part and Burke won a cup in Anaheim. That seems like recent success to me.
 
ULF_55 said:
Just got in. I can't read all these posts so this may be a redundant thought.

I don't see a big difference.

Burke is an adviser now, but he's still in the system.

Just means Nonis doesn't have to ask Burke for permission, he'll just ask him for advice.
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It's just a title, with probably some severance money attached to it. Burke is very like no longer involved in any fashion in Leafs affairs.
 
TML g u n n e R s said:
having gards, lupul, dion on this team for pretty much done goods?

the pool talent we have now...
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who the f cares? You're one of the wort teams in entire NHL.

I'm so sick of fans that care about the names on Jerseys/stat sheets - and not the results in standings.
 
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