CannonFire1
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What !!! For a guy who can't even beat out Jack Johnson !(Am I doing this right ?) On a serious note , Columbus should keep and continue to develop their promising young defenseman , I have a feeling he might turn into something special . All prospects don't develop at the same rate , that's why the majority of them require time and patience if you want them to reach their full potential , the alternative might be watching him turn into a star for another organization .Prob take your unprotected 1st with 1 of those guys
Neighbours is a physical goal scoring middle six winger that is not great defensively with very little playmaking. That mold of player is a dime a dozen. I would not trade him for Jiricek a big right handed defensemen with top pairing upside for Neighbours+.You must be unfamiliar with Neighbours. Neighbours was behind only Wyatt Johnston and Lukas Raymond for goals by players 21 and under last year. Mature beyond his years, physical, a future captain. To acquire a possible 1D you have to give up something real.
It's ok if you wouldn't, but if there was zero worry Jiricek would reach his upside, this thread wouldn't exist.Neighbours is a physical goal scoring middle six winger that is not great defensively with very little playmaking. That mold of player is a dime a dozen. I would not trade him for Jiricek a big right handed defensemen with top pairing upside for Neighbours+.
I wasn't suggesting that trade; I was discussing the value ballpark contrasted against Barron.The Jackets don’t need Joshua Roy. And they don’t need a 2 for 1 asset deal.
Utah should be all over him, they need RD like no one else and he could become a foundational piece for them. Though Iginla is their best trade chip and they may not make him available given that he's their first franchise pick.
Which one? Mailloux? Because Mailloux is 6 months older and blowing Jiricek out of the water in both the NHL and AHL so far.a much worse player at the same position? are you serious?
How would Columbus fans feel about a deal around Mukhamadullin? Obviously a plus coming from SJ. IIRC, you guys were looking for a shutdown LHD or at least a good quality prospect in that position.
I'd also throw out Musty+, but I don't think that fits your needs as well.
No point in Columbus doing a quality for quantity trade. If this were to happen it would likely be a one for one.How would Columbus fans feel about a deal around Mukhamadullin? Obviously a plus coming from SJ. IIRC, you guys were looking for a shutdown LHD or at least a good quality prospect in that position.
I'd also throw out Musty+, but I don't think that fits your needs as well.
Werenski-Provorov-Christiansen-Johnson-Harris-Mateychuk is our left shot defensemen depth chart
Severson-Gudbranson-Jiricek is our right side.
Now this would be a healthy group and Provorov is being asked to play the right side next to Werenski to give them a proper top 4 and Harris-Johnson gets made into an awkward pair but as you can probably see Jiricek reaching his potential is much more important to us than a left shot defender. People are just impatient these days because more and more kids are taking NHL jobs so if anyone follows an old-school timeline (ironically like Mukhamadullin
No point in Columbus doing a quality for quantity trade. If this were to happen it would likely be a one for one.
I'm not as high on Jiri as some fans but I still don't see the point in them even considering moving him.
Which one? Mailloux? Because Mailloux is 6 months older and blowing Jiricek out of the water in both the NHL and AHL so far.
Yes because playing in 20% of the games and getting caved in is actually a better situation for Jiricek?
Jiricek was an AHL All-Star in his D+1. His AHL performances have never been the issue. So I'm not sure how Mailloux, an AHL All-Star in his D+3, continuing to be very good in the AHL in his D+4 points to him blowing Jiricek out of the water, which was your original claim.Yes because playing in 20% of the games and getting caved in is actually a better situation for Jiricek?
Mailloux was not eligible to play in the Ahl in its D+1 and played a total of 71 OHL games between his D1 + D+2 because of Covid and a shoulder surgery.Jiricek was an AHL All-Star in his D+1. His AHL performances have never been the issue. So I'm not sure how Mailloux, an AHL All-Star in his D+3, continuing to be very good in the AHL in his D+4 points to him blowing Jiricek out of the water, which was your original claim.
This is fatal homerism. You want Mailloux bc he he’s a Hab. Not a single GM or neutral prospect evaluator would agree with youI know who I want on my team/farm team. That’s for sure.
I want Mailloux because he’s been better over the last year & this year and because he doesn’t mind the (still needed) development time in the AHL.This is fatal homerism. You want Mailloux bc he he’s a Hab. Not a single GM or neutral prospect evaluator would agree with you
To some random fans there is worry. The org isn't worried that a 20 yr old who was/is still growing hasn't solidified himself in the NHL yet. Come back in 2-3 years.It's ok if you wouldn't, but if there was zero worry Jiricek would reach his upside, this thread wouldn't exist.
Players 21 or under who score that many goals in the top league in the world are not a dime a dozen, that is ridiculous. He will improve defensively. He is a momentum playmaker more than a passing playmaker, a drag his team into the fight kind of player. He goes to the net and scores, gets in the opponent's face and his older teammates love him. He is captain material. NHL captain material is not dime a dozen
in 2-3 years he will be untouchable or he'll be a damaged asset and it won't be a discussion thenTo some random fans there is worry. The org isn't worried that a 20 yr old who was/is still growing hasn't solidified himself in the NHL yet. Come back in 2-3 years.