Bender
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Bankrupt man's ?Neighbours for Jiricek is a poor man's Shanahan for Pronger. Note I said poor man's
Bankrupt man's ?Neighbours for Jiricek is a poor man's Shanahan for Pronger. Note I said poor man's
I think Columbus would be nuts to trade him but he's not playing anywhere. Just sitting in press boxes in the NHL watching Jack Johnson play.
Oilers offer Matt Savoie and our 1st.
We got a spot for you David!
Neighbours is future captain material so no from his sideBankrupt man's ?
I agree, and so do plenty of other HFCBJ folks, but we're not exactly a unified front on this one.Doesn't seem to be any reason to panic trade him for a lesser asset. He's a huge, toolsy RHD who is still 20 years-old. That's almost the prototype for "be patient and under no circumstance, trade this player during their uneven early development phase".
So unless there is actually some bridges burnt - why?
Simon Edvinsson was drafted the year prior at the same 6th overall spot and spent last season (the equivalent to Jiricek's THIS season) in the AHL with just 16 NHL appearances - and nobody was freaking out over him "taking too long" to develop. And fast-forward to this year - and he looks like an absolute unit in the NHL.
I'm not saying that guarantees anything for Jiricek but it seems a pretty timely reminder that you DO NOT liquidate big, 20 year-old blueliners with his tools.
Pronger ? Yeah I don’t think he’s got that ceilingNeighbours for Jiricek is a poor man's Shanahan for Pronger. Note I said poor man's
That's the type of deal that probably doesn't make sense for the CBJ. Need a similar prospect back.Would gladly give up any prospect not Perrault, and a NYR 1st for Jiricek. Safe, calculated gamble.
He can play behind Fox and Schneider, and learn from one of the better RHD in the world .
when the Blues traded Shanahan for him he was 19 and sucked. the point is you're taking a more established rugged scoring forward and sending him off for a recent draft top 5 defenseman who does not look like one yet. if Jiricek's potential ceiling isn't strong 1D with a big risk involved then the Blues in no way should trade Neighbours for himPronger ? Yeah I don’t think he’s got that ceiling
A skilled forward prospect with uncertain path forward could be the 1 for 1
Bobby Boucher.Tyler Boucher?
Oh wait.. you said skilled. Nevermind.
Gotta give it to him, he's got a mean slap shotBobby Boucher.
And there are others of us who believe he has a bright future, would like to keep him, but would at least be willing to listen on offers if a strong piece is coming back in the return. I don't believe anything has been damaged beyond repair, especially with a new GM and new coach in charge.I agree, and so do plenty of other HFCBJ folks, but we're not exactly a unified front on this one.
There's some folks who are unshakably convinced bridges were burnt last year and will hear no arguments to the contrary.
Because he's not ready. He's not a good skater, he's not strong on his skates. And they want him to be a quality defender and not just an offensive weapon. They want him to be a well-rounded top pairing D. He should be playing in Cleveland. But the new trend seems to be watching a players payload/snap count while working with them in the weight room.I will never in a million years understand Jack Johnson playing over a promising prospect, bad training camp or not.
Gudbranson is still out right?
I just, I just don’t get it. Never will.
Because he's not ready. He's not a good skater, he's not strong on his skates. And they want him to be a quality defender and not just an offensive weapon. They want him to be a well-rounded top pairing D. He should be playing in Cleveland. But the new trend seems to be watching a players payload/snap count while working with them in the weight room.
We haven't been told this but it's the only thing that makes sense.
That doesn't automatically make Jiricek the better option. This isn't about what's best the for CBJ today, it's about what's best for Jiriceks develop regardless of what's going on with the team, a team that was expecting to be a bottom dweller.I disagree
Literally any other defenseman then sure.
You know what Jack Johnson is, this guy is hanging on for dear life in todays NHL. It has passed him by, he is purely a locker room presence at this point trying to get every last dollar before his retirement
Yup nothing even interesting. Here have Snuggerud, Neighbour, or Savoie lol.Proposals are about as bad as I expected. I'd easily rather let the 20 year old defenseman develop
a much worse player at the same position? are you serious?Justin Barron or Logan Mailloux?
I'll give you back your 2nd with either one of them.a much worse player at the same position? are you serious?