F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[Gustave]

He's been playing around 16mins/game the last few games though. 7pts in his last 4gp

Also DeAngelo with 19pts in 14gp

Hold the phone here a sec;

You’re overselling the deployment. He’s either been on the 3rd line, 4th line or the dude picking his nose on the bench as the extra forward.

He’s been receiving no PP time, and if so, it’s one shift at the end of a PP. He’s like 27s a game avg on the PP.

Cool that D’Angelo is getting points, but that’s not anything to do with Demidov as the vast majority of Demi’s points are primary assists or flat out goals that only he could score. He’s actually creating plays out of thin air with the 11 min avg, in which he sat on the bench down for 5 straight games because Rotenberg, full stop.

Being top 10 in points league wide with that deployment is flat out crazy shit. I know you mean well and a good poster so no offence, my skin is thin when talking about the only real forward prospect this org has grabbed since freaking Richer

 

[NikolaTesla]

He's been playing around 16mins/game the last few games though. 7pts in his last 4gp

Also DeAngelo with 19pts in 14gp

Yeah when he plays 16 mins a game he's well over a ppg. Still not much pp time though.

 

[montreal]

Shot off Face-Off 1:18
Great Chance 1:33
Draws Penalty Off Drive to Net 4:19
Nice Pass 6:43

 

[jfhabs]

It’s both, he also has a Hart, Lindsay, Vezina, Olympic gold, WJC gold, and stellar playoff numbers

How could you possibly think Price isn’t a superstar but you think Demidov is generational and Philip Mesar is a #1C lmfao

Calder cup too

 

[frederixx]

Hold the phone here a sec;

You’re overselling the deployment. He’s either been on the 3rd line, 4th line or the dude picking his nose on the bench as the extra forward.

He’s been receiving no PP time, and if so, it’s one shift at the end of a PP. He’s like 27s a game avg on the PP.

Cool that D’Angelo is getting points, but that’s not anything to do with Demidov as the vast majority of Demi’s points are primary assists or flat out goals that only he could score. He’s actually creating plays out of thin air with the 11 min avg, in which he sat on the bench down for 5 straight games because Rotenberg, full stop.

Being top 10 in points league wide with that deployment is flat out crazy shit. I know you mean well and a good poster so no offence, my skin is thin when talking about the only real forward prospect this org has grabbed since freaking Richer

Don't get me wrong, I'll try to stay as neutral as possible, but I sincerely think Demidov will be the best forward Montreal has had in for a very very long time! He's the closest to a franchise superstar forward that they've had since their dynasty days. He's the real deal and even more..

 

[Anardil]

So Huet played with superstars?
What about Theodore?
and Hackett?
I guess Halak was surrounded with superstars...

People who think Price was a superstar are on some generational copium



Ok you mean it as a rock star kind of a think, i thought we were talking about the on ice perfomances

Oh the IRONY!!! Pure gold coming from you. You are just proving the point of the original poster stating that the Habs have been carried by exceptional goaltending for 40 years.

And if Price wasn't the superstar that you believe he was, explain why the years when he had season ending injuries, the team went down the crapper?

 

[Bombshell11]

And if Price wasn't the superstar that you believe he was, explain why the years when he had season ending injuries, the team went down the crapper?

You tell me why

 

[Garbageyuk]

Idk why anyone bothers to get into it with this dude. The intent is crystal clear. The fact that we’re in the Demidov thread having to defend one of our all time greats against a fellow Habs fan should tell you everything you need to know about the intent.

 

[Bombshell11]

Idk why anyone bothers to get into it with this dude. The intent is crystal clear. The fact that we’re in the Demidov thread having to defend one of our all time greats against a fellow Habs fan should tell you everything you need to know about the intent.

All time great? Are you joking? You must be fairly young to believe anyone in the last 30 years could qualify as an all time great for the habs.

Maybe you associate yourself too much with your thoughts and feel attacked when someone does not think like you. I invite you to educate yourself on the term: philosophy. Instead of taking things as absolutes, distance yourself from them and treat them like third persons, study them and elaborate on their validity.

Standing here, calling people to arms vs other posters only serves your ego. Which is selfish, narrow minded and creates echo chambers in a place meant for discussion (which is ironic). In other words, i have to question your own intent here? Are you trying to mold an entire board into your liking so that more people agree with you and thus make you feel more important? Do you believe you're worth more than others Garbage yuk?

And for Demidov, i have been discussing Demidov plenty in this thread. You're pretty off on this matter.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Lol WOW . Anyway, Kunlon tomorrow for Demidov and SKA; hopefully he can rack up a few points.

 

[Just Linda]

All time great? Are you joking? You must be fairly young to believe anyone in the last 30 years could qualify as an all time great for the habs.

Maybe you associate yourself too much with your thoughts and feel attacked when someone does not think like you. I invite you to educate yourself on the term: philosophy. Instead of taking things as absolutes, distance yourself from them and treat them like third persons, study them and elaborate on their validity.

Standing here, calling people to arms vs other posters only serves your ego. Which is selfish, narrow minded and creates echo chambers in a place meant for discussion (which is ironic). In other words, i have to question your own intent here? Are you trying to mold an entire board into your liking so that more people agree with you and thus make you feel more important? Do you believe you're worth more than others Garbage yuk?

And for Demidov, i have been discussing Demidov plenty in this thread. You're pretty off on this matter.

Price has more wins, more saves, and more games played than any other goalie in Habs history.

He is a lock to be in the HHOF, something publically supported by people like Dryden, Brodeur, Roy, and numerous other hockey greats.

I'm old enough to remember the NHL 40 years ago, Price is pretty much undeniably a Habs great and a top 10 NHL goalie of all time.

 

[Bombshell11]

Price has more wins, more saves, and more games played than any other goalie in Habs history.

Extremely lazy intellectually to sum up one's greatness to mere stats that in the end do not translate into stanley cups, achievements that honour the club's history or advances the club's heritage. Your chosen stats (i need to emphasize) are cumulative and a circonstance of price's long career rather than Price's sustained exceptional performances, indirectly rewarding him for participating more than others.. which sums up to a participation reward.

He is a lock to be in the HHOF, something publically supported by people like Dryden, Brodeur, Roy, and numerous other hockey greats.

He also got a 10.5 million x 8 contract, what were his cumulative stats there on?

I'm old enough to remember the NHL 40 years ago, Price is pretty much undeniably a Habs great and a top 10 NHL goalie of all time.

2 contradicting terms here, pretty much and undeniably. Which one is it?

I can think of 40 players who would go before Price and that is me not even knowing the entire history of the canadiens by heart. There's new players i learn about almost every year.

When you have a rich history that was established by greats like Richard, boom boom, Beliveau, Savard, Bird, Lafleurs, Plante just to name a few... you can't possibly and seriously include players who half assed it, who had excuses taller than the la tour des canadiens...

This is my last comment on Price,

Demidov will become one of the great ones though, easely

 

[Intangir]

Price has more wins, more saves, and more games played than any other goalie in Habs history.

He is a lock to be in the HHOF, something publically supported by people like Dryden, Brodeur, Roy, and numerous other hockey greats.

I'm old enough to remember the NHL 40 years ago, Price is pretty much undeniably a Habs great and a top 10 NHL goalie of all time.

I am personally a bit ambivalent about Price being a lock for the HHOF. I think he should get in, as should Lundqvist and company, but I similarly don't think he has enough on his resume to be as "shoe-in" as you seem to imply he'd be.

But he is indeed a Habs great.

Where we possibly start to differ more depending on your meaning, is when you call Price a "top 10 goalie of all-time".

If you mean top 10 goalie of all-time for the Habs, then yes, we 100% concur.

If you mean top 10 goalie of all-time in a broader sense, I'm sorry to say that I don't agree.

Hasek, Roy, Plante, Brodeur, Sawchuck, Hall, Dryden, Brimsek, and Vezina would all pretty easily rank higher than Price if we go all-time.

There are others too, so I'd say that Price would rank somewhere in the top 15-20.

But yeah, we should really lay-off the Price talk and go back to Demidov.

 

[montreal]

Forces Turnover/Sets Up Chance 3:58

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Scrotumberg is a hockey terrorist

 

[Koivu11]

 

[kp61c]

If his name wasn't rotenberg he would have been fired long time ago. Strange roten himself doesn't understand this shtick got old a long time ago.

 

[Anardil]

You tell me why

Ok. I'll indulge you this once. Maybe it's because they had skaters playing at least 1 level above where they should have been. Many management teams starting from from the end portion of S. Savard's term to Bergevin have been unable to draft/develop/obtain superstar players, other than goalies, and Price is second to Roy on the list.

You disagreeing with that opinion is yet another one of your steaming hot takes.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who paid attention, unless you're being intentionally obtuse.