Value of: David Jiricek

[TFHockey]

So... if the Oilers could somehow convince RNH to waive his NTC, which is something all players on the Oilers apparently need to have added to their contracts according to Kenny Holland, would something like RNH for Jiricek make sense?

Of course Nuge is likely to retire an Oiler which is why he took a team friendly contract and wanted a full NTC. So this is probably impossible to pull off. Plus trading him opens up a big hole in the top six which means the Oilers have to trade for another C and and/or elevate someone in the lineup. Not ideal.

Still, I think the Oilers would have to do something drastic like this to acquire a young RHD with the potential of Jiricek.

 

[Canovin]

Jiricek is one of those guys who's going to perform better once he's on another team

 

[GreatSaveLuongo]

Maybe a trade of scenario, struggling young player for another

 

[Baksfamous112]

Jiricek is one of those guys who's going to perform better once he's on another team

Jiricek is one of those guys who needs to play a lot of minutes and learn to play on both side of the rink. That comes with experience and the issue is he’s not getting it right now.

He’s only 20. 99% of big body D are still raw at 20 years old.

 

[TFHockey]

Jiricek is one of those guys who's going to perform better once he's on another team

I think he is young and has to fix some things in his game like a lot of inexperienced defensemen. Once he does I think we're looking at a top pairing guy.

 

[majormajor]

So... if the Oilers could somehow convince RNH to waive his NTC, which is something all players on the Oilers apparently need to have added to their contracts according to Kenny Holland, would something like RNH for Jiricek make sense?

Of course Nuge is likely to retire an Oiler which is why he took a team friendly contract and wanted a full NTC. So this is probably impossible to pull off. Plus trading him opens up a big hole in the top six which means the Oilers have to trade for another C and and/or elevate someone in the lineup. Not ideal.

Still, I think the Oilers would have to do something drastic like this to acquire a young RHD with the potential of Jiricek.

Nuge and Jiricek are two guys who are worth more to their current organization. Nuge can't drive play but can fit well next to McDavid and obviously helps the PP be elite. He wouldn't be as useful in Columbus. Meanwhile the Jackets only have one prospect need and that is RD.

One thing I'd be curious about - if Bouchard prices himself out and the Oilers need a new RH PP QB with a bomb, Jiricek looks a lot like a nastier version of young Bouchard. I think his skating might be even worse though. I'm not sure. Bouchard was rough in those years. Bouchard didn't make the Oilers even in his D+3 and it was because his D and his skating was too shaky, I remember him back then and there were some similarities.

But Jiricek is still a couple years away from being a big minute guy I think. So while a Jiricek-Bouchard swap would make sense financially for both clubs - the Oilers save $10m in cap - the timing of player development wouldn't line up.

 

[Czechboy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853460696010293592

Looks like back in lineup tomorrow. I do see his path when you see werenski and provorov ahead of him. I assume provorov is a trade at deadline and welcome to top 4 for next season (and rest of this one). If that is the plan than it's hopeful.

Ftr... My oilers would also like provorov at the TDL. We will have accrued a lot of space and he can play with nurse on pair 2.

 

[Xirik]

As a fellow fan of a Defenseman from the 2022 draft who has a trade thread on this board I feel for you Jackets fans.

Stay strong.

 

[TFHockey]

Nuge and Jiricek are two guys who are worth more to their current organization. Nuge can't drive play but can fit well next to McDavid and obviously helps the PP be elite. He wouldn't be as useful in Columbus. Meanwhile the Jackets only have one prospect need and that is RD.

One thing I'd be curious about - if Bouchard prices himself out and the Oilers need a new RH PP QB with a bomb, Jiricek looks a lot like a nastier version of young Bouchard. I think his skating might be even worse though. I'm not sure. Bouchard was rough in those years. Bouchard didn't make the Oilers even in his D+3 and it was because his D and his skating was too shaky, I remember him back then and there were some similarities.

But Jiricek is still a couple years away from being a big minute guy I think. So while a Jiricek-Bouchard swap would make sense financially for both clubs - the Oilers save $10m in cap - the timing of player development wouldn't line up.

That trade isn't currently fair to the Edmonton Oilers. This is a win now team, and losing their best RHD who was PPG last year for a player who isn't a full time NHL 20+ minute a night guy isn't a formula for success.

Regardless of Bouchard's next contract I think you can bank on Edmonton finding room to sign him.

RNH for Jiricek favors the Jackets right now. He would be one of Columbus' best forwards. However this allows the Oiler some cap flexibility when Kane comes back from injury even if it opens up a hole in the line up. Jiricek will be great, probably, in a year or two or three.

Oilers would have to make a trade to get an RNH-lite player after losing him in this deal.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

yeah I feel for Jackets fans in this thread.

Not a realistic proposal so far.

We kinda asked for it by one of ours being the OP.

It's not without value to investigate but the sentiment that we're better off trying to develop him is the right one.

 

[majormajor]

That trade isn't currently fair to the Edmonton Oilers. This is a win now team, and losing their best RHD who was PPG last year for a player who isn't a full time NHL 20+ minute a night guy isn't a formula for success.

That's what I'm saying, maybe you missed that. Jiricek isn't far enough along to be a Bouchard substitute.

RNH for Jiricek favors the Jackets right now. He would be one of Columbus' best forwards. However this allows the Oiler some cap flexibility when Kane comes back from injury even if it opens up a hole in the line up. Jiricek will be great, probably, in a year or two or three.

Oilers would have to make a trade to get an RNH-lite player after losing him in this deal.

I don't think RNH would be a top 3 or 4 forward on the Jackets. He'd probably be in the bottom six within a year or so. The club has a lot of forward talent emerging.

 

[ViD]

As I said before and since I’ve seen a couple “Kings sale” threads, Jiricek for Byfield makes the most sense

 

[TFHockey]

That's what I'm saying, maybe you missed that. Jiricek isn't far enough along to be a Bouchard substitute.



I don't think RNH would be a top 3 or 4 forward on the Jackets. He'd probably be in the bottom six within a year or so. The club has a lot of forward talent emerging.

Sorry, misunderstood you there.

RNH would be better for the Jackets than you think, but we can agree to disagree. He won't waive anyway.

 

[Gliff]

I would love to pick him up on the Ducks.

Not sure there is a good fit unless someone like McTavish becomes available.

Mintyukov-Luneau
Zellweger-Jiricek

 

[Fro]

As I said before and since I’ve seen a couple “Kings sale” threads, Jiricek for Byfield makes the most sense

Would love it, but never happening

 

[stevo61]

Jiricek isn't going to take the next step until his leg and core strength develop, it's not just an ice time thing which is just a lazy argument. He's got an aggressive mind for the game but his feet don't get him where his brain wants him to go in time or he simply gets knocked off the puck by people he shouldn't. He'll be a bully someday but that day is not today regardless of the crest on his jersey

 

[YP44]

I would prefer someone like

Byfieid in LA
Neighbours in STL

not even close

As I said before and since I’ve seen a couple “Kings sale” threads, Jiricek for Byfield makes the most sense

I have not seen one Kings fan post anything to this.

Value aside, LA is deep on RHD and is not a player they should be going after.

I think Fiala is a playing Columbus could be interested in, but I fail to really see a deal between the two clubs.

 

[Thechozen1]

Colby Barlow

 

[Cheddarcheese]

I'm not as high on Jiricek as other BJ fans, i hope im wrong.
i would save Jiricek for a deal that happens once every few years ( eichel,stone,tkachuk and oreilly are some ex. )

im hoping for another meh year in Ottawa maybe Brady request a trade jiricek ++ would be coming back

 

[Sting]

I'm not as high on Jiricek as other BJ fans, i hope im wrong.
i would save Jiricek for a deal that happens once every few years ( eichel,stone,tkachuk and oreilly are some ex. )

im hoping for another meh year in Ottawa maybe Brady request a trade jiricek ++ would be coming back

Sign me up as a Sens fan! Brady for Fantilli + Jiricek. That one will go over well, right? right?

 

[BHFAN92]

what about Lukas Reichel(F) and Wyatt Kaiser(D) for David Jiricek?

 

[majormajor]

what about Lukas Reichel(F) and Wyatt Kaiser(D) for David Jiricek?

I actually like Reichel but he's not a need. And then on D where the Jackets pool could use some help you've offered us like your 8th LD on your depth chart (with some slight exaggeration). We'd want one of your top few D prospects (and preferably an RD) to even think about moving Jiricek.

 

[Viqsi]

Sign me up as a Sens fan! Brady for Fa

Ahem.

 

[lwvs84]

How is he defensively? Ducks need RHS for everything, almost everyone of the young high upside guys are LH. But Anaheim also doesn't really need offensive guys (except a big point shot)... they've got puck movers to spare.

 

[Benstheman]

As a Habs fan i offer Mailloux and Calgary's 1st.