Rumor: David Jiricek available

[57special]

The only counter I'd have to this is that big, mobile RD that can score are one of the most valuable packages in hockey, right after a #1C, and goalies are one of the least valuable positions. And while Jiricek hasn't been ready for the NHL, he has been productive in the AHL. Can't you see Minnesota trading their #1 (probably in the low to mid 20s) and IDK.... Carson Lambos for Jiricek?

Jiricek? I thought his skating was a big question? I know it's kind of unfair to expect him to be a finished item as a 20 yo, but you can't hand out accolades that haven't been earned.

 

[Crede777]

Jiricek? I thought his skating was a big question? I know it's kind of unfair to expect him to be a finished item as a 20 yo, but you can't hand out accolades that haven't been earned.

His skating is more than a big question - it's his big issue. That and confidence. But when he's in the AHL where skating is less of a pronounced deficiency and he's given top-pairing minutes, he performs very well. That's also why CBJ fans are insisting despite his inability to make the NHL roster he should still be seen as a top prospect in the league and deserves another team's top prospect in return. Actually, many CBJ fans (myself included) would just rather not trade him and instead focus on continuing his skating development.

 

[57special]

His skating is more than a big question - it's his big issue. That and confidence. But when he's in the AHL where skating is less of a pronounced deficiency and he's given top-pairing minutes, he performs very well. That's also why CBJ fans are insisting despite his inability to make the NHL roster he should still be seen as a top prospect in the league and deserves another team's top prospect in return. Actually, many CBJ fans (myself included) would just rather not trade him and instead focus on continuing his skating development.

Skating can be improved, but it takes a lot of work and coaching. I am pretty confident that the new management will be able to provide the guidance, as i am a believer in Waddell and Deano, but I am not sure that Jiricek has the drive to sacrifice his summers and work harder than all of the other players to improve. That's what it takes. It's not just showing up and doing what everyone else does.

I don't expect a 2022 pick to be a finished item, but it's a major red flag to me that Waddell and Dean are willing to move on from him. It screams to me that they don't think they can work with him.

 

[MagnumForce2]

Skating can be improved, but it takes a lot of work and coaching. I am pretty confident that the new management will be able to provide the guidance, as i am a believer in Waddell and Deano, but I am not sure that Jiricek has the drive to sacrifice his summers and work harder than all of the other players to improve. That's what it takes. It's not just showing up and doing what everyone else does.
I don't expect a 2022 pick to be a finished item, but it's a major red flag to me that Waddell and Dean are willing to move on from him. It screams to me that they don't think they can work with him.

Good post

 

[ColumbusTrill]

At this point you are lucky if you get a 2nd round pick for him.

He has 70 points in 101 career AHL games - all before he turned 21. Those are pretty remarkable numbers for a defenseman that young in the A. It's not like he's refusing to play. Our coaches have said good things about his work ethic. I don't want to trade him anytime soon

 

[Crede777]

Skating can be improved, but it takes a lot of work and coaching. I am pretty confident that the new management will be able to provide the guidance, as i am a believer in Waddell and Deano, but I am not sure that Jiricek has the drive to sacrifice his summers and work harder than all of the other players to improve. That's what it takes. It's not just showing up and doing what everyone else does.

I don't expect a 2022 pick to be a finished item, but it's a major red flag to me that Waddell and Dean are willing to move on from him. It screams to me that they don't think they can work with him.

I agree, although there is a second explanation which is the one I am worried about.

That is, instead of being "open" to trading him because they are concerned about his ability to improve within the CBJ system, they are "committed" to trading him because he has voiced his displeasure with how he has been handled. In that situation, I am worried that Waddell is handcuffing himself, based upon principle, to receiving a lackluster return for Jiricek. I really don't want the Jackets to end up trading off their top prospect simply because they "want players who want to be here" in spite of the fact that he's on his ELC and has zero leverage.

 

[Juxtaposer]

The only counter I'd have to this is that big, mobile RD that can score are one of the most valuable packages in hockey, right after a #1C, and goalies are one of the least valuable positions. And while Jiricek hasn't been ready for the NHL, he has been productive in the AHL. Can't you see Minnesota trading their #1 (probably in the low to mid 20s) and IDK.... Carson Lambos for Jiricek?

Yeah, I could see that package happening. But I don't think Lambos is in the same prospect tier as David Edstrom, and rightly or wrongly the Vegas pick was seen as potentially being in the teens at the time of the trade (whereas the Wild pick will be late 20's).

Like I said, late 1st (like Minnesota's 1st) and a B prospect (such as Carson Lambos) OR early 2nd (like SJ's 2nd) and a B+ prospect (like Shakir Mukhamadullin) seems like what I'm expecting.

 

[Bouboumaster]

What are Colombus needs?

 

[Crede777]

What are Colombus needs?

It's Columbus.

And the need in exchange for Jiricek would be a similar quality prospect. So either a defenseman who projects as a top-4 with potential to be top pair or a forward who projects as top-6 with potential to be top line.