Value of: Darnell Nurse

Junohockeyfan

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Watch Darnell on this shift, you won't believe it
He doesn't have situational awareness. He just saw an opportunity to score and ignored the two Nucks behind him. That said, Foegele can't miss on that shot. Also, what the hell was Ceci doing?

There is no communication between Nurse / Ceci. None at all. Each playing as individuals and looking for offense.

It will be near impossible to upgrade on Ceci. No one will want him without a sweetener.
 
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He doesn't have situational awareness. He just saw an opportunity to score and ignored the two Nucks behind him. That said, Foegele can't miss on that shot. Also, what the hell was Ceci doing?

There is no communication between Nurse / Ceci. None at all. Each playing as individuals and looking for offense.

It will be near impossible to upgrade on Ceci. No one will want him without a sweetener.
This was a complete mess for basically everyone on the ice. Both defensemen pinched? Why? That's novice level mistakes, and it isn't just the players, its also on the coaching - this stuff happens too often, and has been for years.
 

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This was a complete mess for basically everyone on the ice. Both defensemen pinched? Why? That's novice level mistakes, and it isn't just the players, its also on the coaching - this stuff happens too often, and has been for years.
That was a terrible pinch, hard to even comprehend and so unnecessary. Of course that was bad awareness by the d-men but I also think the Oilers coaching preaches the 5 man unit and like the d-man to be up in the play but you have to be smart enough to pick your spots especially being tied or holding a lead in a game. Even though the Oilers dominated most of the game on Saturday the Canucks still didn't give the Oilers any freebee goals. The Oilers had to work for all their goals. The Canucks didn't have some ridiculous novice level breakdown that lead to a goal at a key time, the Oilers seem to give up at least one freebee goal almost every game and often at key times in the game. Goaltending also plays a part as well as the Canucks probably got 8-10 quality saves out of their goalie, the Oilers didn't seem to get any. The Oilers can get away with giving up easy goals in the regular season but if they consistently do that in the playoffs like they did against Vegas they are never winning the Cup.
 
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Daryl Sutter is basically the coach Nurse needs. He would turn him into a beast, but as is he's overpaid.

Also Ceci is probably more at fault on that 2-on-0 play though both of them should be slapped upside the head, and lol Foegele, get the puck on net you bozo.
 

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Daryl Sutter is basically the coach Nurse needs. He would turn him into a beast, but as is he's overpaid.

Also Ceci is probably more at fault on that 2-on-0 play though both of them should be slapped upside the head, and lol Foegele, get the puck on net you bozo.
Nurse takes the blame for a lot of Ceci mistakes. They need to get Ceci off his pair.
 

ManofSteel55

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They need to get nurse off the ice. It’s ridiculous how much blame his partner gets.

At some point it’s on him.
His partner makes more mistakes than he does. Nurse has had an awful start to the year - really, everyone has when you drop game 1 with 8 goals against. But him getting all of the blame is ridiculous too. He has a couple of issues but the "get Nurse off the ice" narrative is stupid.
 

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This was a complete mess for basically everyone on the ice. Both defensemen pinched? Why? That's novice level mistakes, and it isn't just the players, its also on the coaching - this stuff happens too often, and has been for years.
Also why didn’t Foegele pass the puck to a wide open Nurse? lol
 

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His partner makes more mistakes than he does. Nurse has had an awful start to the year - really, everyone has when you drop game 1 with 8 goals against. But him getting all of the blame is ridiculous too. He has a couple of issues but the "get Nurse off the ice" narrative is stupid.

We’ve been hearing this his entire career as an oiler.

Can’t put him with bear, cause bear sucks.

Can’t put him with Barrie, cause barrie sucks.

Can’t put him with Bouchard. Cause Bouchard sucks.

Meanwhile, Ekholm comes in and is able to play perfectly fine with Bouchard and elevate his game. Seems to me ekholm is just better plain and simple. Maybe nurse is the one that needs baby sitting himself.

And that’s crazy tunnel vision if you think that it’s just been a bad two games for darnell.
 

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Also why didn’t Foegele pass the puck to a wide open Nurse? lol
Just a total breakdown of epic proportions.
We’ve been hearing this his entire career as an oiler.

Can’t put him with bear, cause bear sucks.

Can’t put him with Barrie, cause barrie sucks.

Can’t put him with Bouchard. Cause Bouchard sucks.

Meanwhile, Ekholm comes in and is able to play perfectly fine with Bouchard and elevate his game. Seems to me ekholm is just better plain and simple. Maybe nurse is the one that needs baby sitting himself.

And that’s crazy tunnel vision if you think that it’s just been a bad two games for darnell.
Funny, because the best hockey that Bear ever played was with Nurse. The best hockey Barrie played since his Colorado days was with Nurse. Bouchard doesn't work well with Nurse because they both focus too much on offense. I fail to see how listing three offense only defensmen really makes any point other than the one many Oilers fans have often said - that we need a more stable partner for Nurse. Nurse is great in a lot of ways. The stats back that up. The eye test always doesn't, and I believe that does mean something. To me, it means that Nurse should have a shutdown partner. He shouldn't be relied on to be jumping up in the play while also being a defensive force. So if the Oilers can find another shutdown defenseman to pair with Nurse, that's probably the best bet.

Ekholm is a better positional defenseman for sure, and is by far the best defensive player on the Oilers. They need another one of him.

Nurse does have bad games. So does everyone else. And the first game was bad for everyone.
 
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Nurse and Ceci have been a pairing for multiple seasons now and yet they constantly play the game like they can't even see each other. It's like they're both starring in a reverse Sixth Sense or something.

Add to that they both sort of remind me of when you throw a tennis ball for a dog and they just reflexively chase after it.
 

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There will be no discussion on retention.

So the real question is how much is a team going to also want to take that awful contract? Probably at least two 2nds.

On those terms, Vegas offers the rights to Robin Lehner and will throw in a snake farm in Arkansas.

Noting that an injured and out-of-shape Lehner is probably still an upgrade in goal, and the snake farm is pretty nice too.
 

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1) Skinner has a NMC.
2) Holy shit why would Buffalo do this?
3) You should get a warning for making a proposal this bad. You gotta be trolling, right?
Because D> wingers and Nurse at that cap hit is extremely valuable ( I was also thinking skinner had only 2 years left )
 

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