The one reason might be to send a message to the refs that acting like Driscoll did is either not going to to tolerated, or if you instigate you get what you get.
Daniel Carcillo (June 3 - Susp. reduced 10 gms to 6 gms)
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The one reason might be to send a message to the refs that acting like Driscoll did is either not going to to tolerated, or if you instigate you get what you get.
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eco's bones
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It mirrors real life--you have all kinds of innocent people living out long sentences in prison for instance--DNA evidence against someone else--once convicted see you later. The same could almost be said for non violent low level drug offenders stuck with 20+ year terms. Why? Cases where to reopen would lead to a domino effect of overturning other cases.
The process will play out but the NHL is not going to overturn the suspension. What might happen is that crew gets cut out of the finals. And anyway not for Carcillo who had already been through this abuse of officials rule once before. And in the playoffs?--remember Schoenfeld and Koharski?--the on ice officials refusing to officiate a playoff game--their replacement refs? A big black eye when the league was perceived by the officials to go too lightly on Schoenfeld--actually it wasn't the league--I just looked it up--the Devils took it to court and got a judge to overturn the suspension--the refs walked out. Carcillo is perceived almost universally as a troublemaker and a hothead. He's not new to the suspension process. Do I think what he got was fair? Hell no. Do I think Driscoll handled that situation right? A double hell no. A fight breaks out and he leaves the other linesman all alone to deal with it himself while doing much to create a whole new ugly situation. They're protecting their own. That crew was awful that night but nobody is going to remember much about any of it when the playoffs are over.
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Not really, the way to send that message is to fine/suspend driscoll.
It sends a VERY bad message to say the players can take matters into their hands if a ref is acting inappropriately.
The most messed up part of this is the court got involved. A court should have no say over whether a coach is allowed to coach or not for an NHL game. I don't see what law was broken by suspending schoenfeld.
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probably nothing. which is a shame because i'm reading this ESPN article where Doughty is like "I'm crazy" and "I'm a bit of a snap show sometimes when I'm out there," and was thinking how wonderful it'd be to have Carcillo, an ex-teammate out there pushing all his buttons. Still it's still a tremendous advantage having Carcillo on our roster considering he's played for the 1st Hawks cup team as well as the Kings this season. he'll have some good inside dirt.
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Oh I never felt that the suspension would, or should get overturned. Reduced to 3 games, yes. But not overturned. Playoff season is a lot shorter than the regular season. 10 games out of 82 does not equal 10 games out of 28 max. They really need to consider the short playoff season when doling out suspensions.
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I say this with no disrespect to the process and without bias (haha, okay, maybe a little), but it really should be knocked down to 5 games from 10. 10 is a little over the top IMO - I've watched it many times and it was really not that egregious. Carcillo got his elbow up when he tried to disengage from an over-zealous official. Was there intent to strike an official with his actions? I don't think so, no. Sure, he crossed the line and deserves to be punished - and he has - but it's not like he snapped and went crazy out there.
Besides which, there should be a little bit of blame apportioned to Driscoll in this instance for the manner in which he initiated contact with Carcillo. Completely uncalled for.
Besides which, there should be a little bit of blame apportioned to Driscoll in this instance for the manner in which he initiated contact with Carcillo. Completely uncalled for.
eco's bones
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Entirely reasonable post. It seems a little silly anyway to give Carcillo 10 games just for that. I didn't get any real intent to harm an official there. With a fight breaking out and the potential scrums that come with it--Carcillo probably was thinking more in the line of keeping things even for those scrums and Driscoll's inexplicable attention towards him was to my eyes a little weird.
RangerLifer
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I think that is correct. The appeal, however, is up to Bettman, so who knows how that Islander fan will go.
haohmaru
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Bettman won't change a thing. He has no reason to usurp what the officials determined and there's more downside to making the officials look bad than there is in making a "goon" like Carcillo look better. He's going to uphold the original ruling, IMHO.
But, I think this should've been a 3 gamer to begin with. There was no reason for the official to grab him like he did and anyone would act naturally defensive like Carcillo did. The whole thing is just stupid.
But, I think this should've been a 3 gamer to begin with. There was no reason for the official to grab him like he did and anyone would act naturally defensive like Carcillo did. The whole thing is just stupid.
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Hire Sather
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Really is a shame that a player is forced to miss the rest of the playoffs because of a ticky-tack thing like this.
Something tells me the league wouldn't do this to a star player.
Its easy to make an example out of Dan Carcillo.
Something tells me the league wouldn't do this to a star player.
Its easy to make an example out of Dan Carcillo.
Oh, the poor victim! Touching an official for any reason is out of bounds and Carcillo has had too many run-ins and suspensions to feel sorry for him. Granted, he shouldn't have been in that position in the first place (call the penalty on Prust when he hits Stepan and he's not on the ice), but in the end, he's responsible for his actions-especially given his history--and he blew it.
I really don't care either way what happens.
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I just fail to see it as "abuse of officials"
The ref had a hold of him and he probably just made a reflex reaction of "gtfo me"
To watch what happened and see that he got TEN games out of it while the headhunting play by Prust (and John Moore for that matter) which is the real DANGER in our game and they get only two.
Carcillo is no saint, but he hasn't been that reckless here.
As far as I'm concerned, players have to be in control of themselves on the ice. Like I said, Carcillo shouldn't have been on the ice, but he was and he should have been aware of who was grabbing him and done nothing. And now he (and the team) pays the price.
broadwayblue
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Playoffs or no playoffs, it's a suspension that is set in the rules of the NHL, no one in the front office of the NHL made this decision.
broadwayblue
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It's still ridiculous. The whole thing still pisses me off. Prust gets away with what should very well have been a 5 minute major without so much as an interference call...with a ref standing right in the line of sight. And then our guy gets 10 games for the most incidental contact you could have? It's so bush league. And the problem is it starts at the top. Just like their conclusion the point of contact on the Moore hit was to the head. Give me a freaking break.
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