Player Discussion: Damon Severson

[alphafox]

Solid move and still under 30, last years of the contract will be tough to move, but with cap inflation kicking in it probably won't be as big a deal as it looks right now. It looks like Jarmo knows they screwed up rushing some of the kids and is buying time for them to grow into bigger rolls. At the very least I think the D is an order of magnitude better than what we iced last year assuming

Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Boquivst
???-Jiricek

My big question left is who gets moved out and for what? Are going to go after a long-term piece like Lindholm or a short-term piece like Hayes at Center to protect the dids at forward as they develop.

 

[Mr Bojanglez]

Ya'll will enjoy him. Your team is improved.

More/Less this trade is a product of our defensive depth prospects. He wasn't going to sign for 1-2 years, and we would have a logjam in 3 years.

Some fans cut him zero slack. He's a good player. Sorry to see him go - but I understand. Feels like all 3 parties win on this trade.

 

[JacketsDavid]

He’s going to be in the 1st pairing max 1 year

24-25 top4 is going to be

Werenski- Jiricek
Provorov- Severson

I'll bet you Jiricek is not 1st pairing 2024-25 if that is what you're saying. I know gambling is not allowed but it's pipe dream to assume hes top pairing next year.

 

[NotCommitted]

I know nothing about Severson, why am I feeling so good about this signing?

 

[stevo61]

Solid move and still under 30, last years of the contract will be tough to move, but with cap inflation kicking in it probably won't be as big a deal as it looks right now. It looks like Jarmo knows they screwed up rushing some of the kids and is buying time for them to grow into bigger rolls. At the very least I think the D is an order of magnitude better than what we iced last year assuming

Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Boquivst
???-Jiricek

My big question left is who gets moved out and for what? Are going to go after a long-term piece like Lindholm or a short-term piece like Hayes at Center to protect the dids at forward as they develop.

Thats a good point. Rushing the kids vs rushing the rebuild (which I dont think this is). Creating competition is a good thing. 8 is a lot of years but there are options to get out of the end of that deal

 

[Viqsi]

I'll bet you Jiricek is not 1st pairing 2024-25 if that is what you're saying. I know gambling is not allowed but it's pipe dream to assume hes top pairing next year.

Next year is 2023-24, not 2024-25. I agree he probably won't be top pairing this coming year (g-d, we should be so lucky) but the year after is certainly plausible.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

He immediately becomes the best Severson to don a Jackets uniform.

 

[BB88]

I'll bet you Jiricek is not 1st pairing 2024-25 if that is what you're saying. I know gambling is not allowed but it's pipe dream to assume hes top pairing next year.

Then he’s not as good of a prospect as we’ve hoped.

& it’s like 15 months untill my projection

 

[morehockeystats]

Bean, Peeke both heading out, I guess.

Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Boquivst
???-Jiricek

Unless you manage to unload the 4M elephant aka Erik Gudbranson.

 

[CBJx614]

I know plenty will dislike this move but guess what this does?

You don’t have to worry about the blueline for the next 5 years.

Werenski
Jiricek
Provorov
Mateychuk
Severson
Svozil
Bean
Ceulemans

Now you can put all your focus on offense and net.
These moves created a lot of stability

It's almost like people forgot what our D last season. If we have this depth we have now and that happens we are much more insulated and should be able to maintain a little better.

It’s about ceiling. As constructed, this team’s ceiling is not very high.

They need more Johnson, Jiricek, Carlsson types. Looks like we won’t be getting any more of them anytime soon.

Wut? This team has one of the best prospects pools in the league and we had an extremely questionable NHL roster. Now we've gone out and solidified the defense and are getting a wave of offensive reinforcements for free in Texier, Voronkov and Danforth coming back and getting healthy. You could even throw Carlsson on that list. That means guys like Bemstrom, Foudy, Olivier and maybe even Robinson are now fighting for their roster spot every single practice. And are likely going to get packaged if they can't hang

 

[VT]

I was going to Bratislava, didn't have a good connection to the internet, come back and immediately there's news.
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These d-men are ideal for Babcock. Good skating, skill, hockey vision, can play in defense.

I see:

Werenski, Boqvist
Provorov, Severson
xxx, Gudbransom

I love Bean but he will probably be traded. He and Boqvist had problems with injury and Jarmo doesn't want to risk. Also our defense was small with bad the first pass. Werenski, Boqvist, Bean... it's excellent. But if Werenski is injured after13 games. Bean after 14, Boqvist didn't play 60 games and Bayreuther played in the first pair, it's enough difficult to win.

 

[Toe Pick]

I like these hypothetical trade scenarios folks are tossing around. I look at it like:

Gaudreau + Gudbranson for Bjorkstrand

Severson for Voracek

Provorov for Gavrikov

There's a bunch of 2nd/3rd/4th/6th round picks changing hands in there as well.

Next it's......

?? for Roslovic + Boqvist/Bean/Peeke

?? for Elvis + ??

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I was going to Bratislava, didn't have a good connection to the internet, come back and immediately there's news.

With apologies, the first thing my brain did upon reading this was to sing "In my mind, I'm going to Bratislava."

 

[Monstershockey]

It's almost like people forgot what our D last season. If we have this depth we have now and that happens we are much more insulated and should be able to maintain a little better.

Wut? This team has one of the best prospects pools in the league and we had an extremely questionable NHL roster. Now we've gone out and solidified the defense and are getting a wave of offensive reinforcements for free in Texier, Voronkov and Danforth coming back and getting healthy. You could even throw Carlsson on that list. That means guys like Bemstrom, Foudy, Olivier and maybe even Robinson are now fighting for their roster spot every single practice. And are likely going to get packaged if they can't hang

In 2016 we also had one of the top prospect pools. The article I found listed us 3rd behind Toronto and Arizona, and ahead of Winnipeg and Philadelphia. Teams ranked a quite a bit lower passed the top teams and already won a cup.

I think it is safe to say where our prospect pool is doesn't matter too much in the long run. There are way too many variables. You just hope things pan out.

The good thing is they are making moves and being active. Having good prospects can also help in bring in better players via trades. Should the Jackets recover fast and get in the hunt, having good prospects will enable better trade deadline deals.

 

[koteka]

Then you might not get him. The extra year and the 3rd was the premium for the guarantee you land him. Tbh, if you value him enough to think he’s worth 7 x 6.25, then it’s worth the extra year and the 3rd round pick for the insurance/guarantee/comfort/[whatever term of your choice] that you get him.

Who would outbid us at $6.2 million us for 7 years? Sort of like Johnny Hockey - we had the cap space and were willing to sign a long contract so we won the free agent prize.

Also, buy outs are stoopid. Claiming it is a good contract because it can be bought out doesn’t mean it is a good contract.

 

[MissADD]

Who would outbid us at $6.2 million us for 7 years? Sort of like Johnny Hockey - we had the cap space and were willing to sign a long contract so we won the free agent prize.

Also, buy outs are stoopid. Claiming it is a good contract because it can be bought out doesn’t mean it is a good contract.

Hes a RHD and probably was the top one hitting the market. Their would be others in the race

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Who would outbid us at $6.2 million us for 7 years? Sort of like Johnny Hockey - we had the cap space and were willing to sign a long contract so we won the free agent prize.

Also, buy outs are stoopid. Claiming it is a good contract because it can be bought out doesn’t mean it is a good contract.

He was the best ufa in the market. At minimum someone would match and it'd be a gamble where he goes

 

[tunnelvision]

Werenski 6'2 213lbs
Provorov 6'1 201lbs
Jiricek 6'3 190lbs? But growing
Severson 6'2 205lbs.

Not a ton of nasty but some and good size

All under 6'4? koteka is not impressed.

I'm feeling slightly pessimistic about this and the Provorov trade. I guess there are ways to put a positive spin on them but there's definitely some uncertainty involved as many here have already pointed out. Time will tell.

My favorite aspect of this move is that it likely pushes Jiricek down to Cleveland in October. I also like that Severson seems to have tools to be a solid point guy for PP1 next year.

Obviously the term is concerning for a nearly 30-year old. Inconsistent defensive play is a huge minus imo, but I need to watch him more closely before making final judgement on that.

How would you assemble PP lineups with current roster? I'd try:

---------- Jenner
Laine - Marchenko - Gaudreau
--------- Severson

--------- Voronkov
Johnson - Texier - Chinakhov
--------- Werenski

 

[LetsGOJackets!!]

Come on man.. we had a rec hockey D last year. Jarmo just added ZW IP & DS our goal tending just got better by default

 

[koteka]

Hes a RHD and probably was the top one hitting the market. Their would be others in the race

Im not so sure about that. A cursory look to me makes me think the teams that might want Severson dont have the cap space for Severson while the teams with the cap space (Anaheim, Chicago, etc.) aren’t ready to make such a move. NJ is actually a team that is on the rise and could afford him, and they obviously weren’t willing to match our offer. If you have an example of a team that would compete with us and have the cap space, please share it.

 

[stevo61]

All under 6'4? koteka is not impressed.

I'm feeling slightly pessimistic about this and the Provorov trade. I guess there are ways to put a positive spin on them but there's definitely some uncertainty involved as many here have already pointed out. Time will tell.

My favorite aspect of this move is that it likely pushes Jiricek down to Cleveland in October. I also like that Severson seems to have tools be solid point guy for PP1 next year.

Obviously the term is concerning for a nearly 30-year old. Inconsistent defensive play is a huge minus imo, but I need to watch him more closely before making final judgement on that.

How would you assemble PP lineups with current roster? I'd try:

---------- Jenner
Laine - Marchenko - Gaudreau
--------- Severson

--------- Voronkov
Johnson - Texier - Chinakhov
--------- Werenski

If Jiricek is in Cleveland Id still put Boqvist in PP1. Hes still the best we have in that role and either the player continues to improve and you keep him or you show him off and trade him

 

[koteka]

All under 6'4? koteka is not impressed.

I am still waiting on a defense first guy in the 6’4“ to 6’6” range. Heck, at this point I’d be happy with a 6’2” guy who prides himself with his defensive play.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[EDM]

Hopefully this eats up enough cap space that it imperils Jarmo's charitable mission to relieve the Flyers of all theri problem players.

 

[tunnelvision]

If Jiricek is in Cleveland Id still put Boqvist in PP1. Hes still the best we have in that role and either the player continues to improve and you keep him or you show him off and trade him

My assumption is that Severson passes the puck more quickly in PP formation than Boqvist which is why I prefer him but I could be wrong.