Dale Weise

[417]

I mentioned this much earlier in the thread, but it bears mentioning again. For a 4th liner, weise displays some good vision every once in a while.

That cheeky little pass to pleks coming off the bench is not something you see a player of Weiss's ilk pull off, let alone have the vision to attempt it.

It looked like he even caught datsyuk off guard with that play, who may be the smartest player in the league.

Weise has more talent than he's given credit for...

 

[Devourers]

I mentioned this much earlier in the thread, but it bears mentioning again. For a 4th liner, weise displays some good vision every once in a while.

That cheeky little pass to pleks coming off the bench is not something you see a player of Weiss's ilk pull off, let alone have the vision to attempt it.

It looked like he even caught datsyuk off guard with that play, who may be the smartest player in the league.

Well to be fair I'd definitely call him a 3rd liner now a days. He's proven to be way more capable of offense than any 4th liners you see around. Personally I think he was a steal, yeah he's no franchise player but we gave up a guy who would arguably be in the press box if it weren't for Calgary's lack of depth for a solid 4th liner who has quickly become a competent 3rd liner.

He's producing similarly to Sekac and Parenteau who I'd say are 3rd liners all the while playing with some more grit than either of them and being a solid plus 13. I know plenty of 4th liners over the years who didn't score or put up any points when given the opportunities he's been given. People can only point to the 1st line opportunities for so long before it becomes apparent he's getting those opportunities for a reason. IMO it's obvious, the guy is a 3rd liner not the 4th liner we anticipated when trading for him.

Weise has more talent than he's given credit for...

Agreed. I've seen people question his hockey IQ but for a bottom six player his hockey IQ is fine. Vision is equally fine. Like I said the guy to me is clearly a 3rd liner and it's not just the points, he plays like one. There were seasons where Moen seemed to get far more opportunity playing with Plekanec than Weise has even gotten thus far playing with Patch, I'd have to look up the TOI with teammates to confirm, but I'm pretty sure, and he never even broke 20pts. Weise is already creeping up on 25-30.

 

[1UP]

Weise is exactly what you want for a 3rd line player. Gone are the days where you want hams that just clutch and grab on a checking line - you need players that can actually play hockey to put pressure on opponent.

I mean, the guy is quite responsible defensively, he can be physical, and he will reward you with solid if inconsistent secondary scoring. Plus that damn foot speed, dayum.

When in a pinch, because someone took a night off, to make a statement or because of injuries, you can slot him up and while he won't dominate, he won't look entirely stupid.

It's with guys like Eller, De La Rose and Weise that you build a modern 3rd line that will not only play sound defense, but also control the puck and offer moderate offense to offload the pressure off the first 2 lines. That we got him for Diaz is highway robbery. As long as we don't overestimate him, and see him as a 3rd liner that can slot up in a pinch (and his contract stays manageable), he'll always have a spot in our lineup. Teams need players like this on a fairly cheap contract to dominate.

 

[MasterDecoy]

I ****ing love him

Until he goes into a slump and the coach overuses him then I will hate him

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Well to be fair I'd definitely call him a 3rd liner now a days...

...I've seen people question his hockey IQ but for a bottom six player his hockey IQ is fine. Vision is equally fine. Like I said the guy to me is clearly a 3rd liner and it's not just the points, he plays like one.

Even I'm fully on board as far as this goes. Fine for a 3rd liner, and best for everyone if he stays there.

 

[Team_Spirit]

I expected that kind of play by Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

Dutch Gretzky

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[InglewoodJack]

That was a ridiculous pass. Gave plek so much space. Don't think many players would make that pass.

 

[Frankenheimer]

That was a ridiculous pass. Gave plek so much space. Don't think many players would make that pass.

Here is how one of Dale Weise's biggest fans sarcasm described the pass:

Dale Weise chased down the loose puck along the left-side boards, and as he flipped a pass to open space near the blueline, Pavel Datsyuk lost his footing, creating a huge space for Tomas Plekanec to come up off the bench, grab the loose puck, and wire a bullet of a slap shot of the left post and in.

http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2...canadiens-recap-result-final-score-highlights

All of the brilliance of the pass carefully erased through a calculated use of language and ordering of causes and effects. Berkshire makes it sound like: 1) Weise blindly tossed the puck into open space; 2) Datsyuk "lost his footing" for no reason, not because of unexpectedly having to change directions as a result of the clever pass; 3) Plekanec appeared off the bench after Weise blindly passed the puck to nowhere, so that it was a loose puck.

And that's how you don't give someone credit for a nice play.

 

[_vivelequebec_]

He brained Datsyuk, that's completely insane. He also had decent offensive stats in the WHL and AHL, he's no more than a 3rd liner sure, but a 3rd liner for any solid organisation.

 

[Chfan]

An article I wrote on Dale Weise, I think it sums up pretty much what everyone is thinking here by reading the last few pages.

...He is not a first line winger. I think we can all agree on that, without any arguing.

But then, what is he really? With his 9 goals and 14 assists, all career-highs, the 26-year-old Dale Weise is certainly making a case for himself that he is more than a 4th-line grinder, what we all assumed we had gotten last February when we acquired him.

Let's go back a little on Weise's career.

Offensive potential: he always had some

The Winnipeg-born winger has played his junior hockey for the Swift Current Broncos in the WHL where he played 3 seasons. After only scoring 18 points in his first season, he tallied 47 goals and 46 assists in 120 games in the next two seasons, before being selected in the 4th round of the NHL entry draft by the New York Rangers.

...

http://www.canadiensdaily.com/2015/02/the-mysterious-case-of-dale-weise/

 

[Habs]

Here is how one of Dale Weise's biggest fans sarcasm described the pass:



http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2...canadiens-recap-result-final-score-highlights

All of the brilliance of the pass carefully erased through a calculated use of language and ordering of causes and effects. Berkshire makes it sound like: 1) Weise blindly tossed the puck into open space; 2) Datsyuk "lost his footing" for no reason, not because of unexpectedly having to change directions as a result of the clever pass; 3) Plekanec appeared off the bench after Weise blindly passed the puck to nowhere, so that it was a loose puck.

And that's how you don't give someone credit for a nice play.

I mentioned this in another thread, HEOTP stinks now. I don't know if they got a pile of new writers, or just discovered 'controversy sells', but I stopped reading after their corny 'They should trade Price' satire article.

 

[De Montreal]

Weise believe he has 20 goals scorer potential in him. Do you?

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/vingt-buts-par-année-1.2176001

 

[Hackett]

Weise believe he has 20 goals scorer potential in him. Do you?

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/vingt-buts-par-année-1.2176001

I'm happy he has high expectations of himself, but I don't see it.

 

[68*]

Nah. But 15 like Lappy in 08/09 could be possible.

 

[Znthnk]

What has Weise done to play only 7:54 compared to Devo's 13:50 last night against Nashville?

I really dislike how Therrien is toying with Weise, placing him intermittently on the third line to wake up Devo.

 

[S Bah]

What has Weise done to play only 7:54 compared to Devo's 13:50 last night against Nashville?

I really dislike how Therrien is toying with Weise, placing him intermittently on the third line to wake up Devo.

Or perhaps resting Dale a bit for the Winnipeg game in front of his Family & Friends!!!...

 

[FrontierPsyCHiatrist*]

Atta boy Weisy !

 

[Analyzer*]

Here is how one of Dale Weise's biggest fans sarcasm described the pass:



http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2...canadiens-recap-result-final-score-highlights

All of the brilliance of the pass carefully erased through a calculated use of language and ordering of causes and effects. Berkshire makes it sound like: 1) Weise blindly tossed the puck into open space; 2) Datsyuk "lost his footing" for no reason, not because of unexpectedly having to change directions as a result of the clever pass; 3) Plekanec appeared off the bench after Weise blindly passed the puck to nowhere, so that it was a loose puck.

And that's how you don't give someone credit for a nice play.

Why would you read anything that guy writes ?

 

[Mr. Hab]

Atta boy Weisy !

Thanks for the article...well deserved award

I want to see more Dale ''playoff warrior'' Weise on the 2nd or 3rd line sometimes (or more than sometimes)...Weise can energize any line
(more often than not, imo) with his amazing speed/grit/heart/underrated passing and offense...and he's a major playoff warrior. Rotate/switch Weise and DSP on the 2nd and 3rd lines...imo. Or, Therrien will give more ice-time to Parenteau for playoffs? I hope Parenteau can be a playoff warrior...?? Not sure but I will hope so.

 

[JLP]

Maybe Weise will be the Bourque of this year's playoffs?

 

[Frankenheimer]

Why would you read anything that guy writes ?

Because he's smart and backs his points up with something resembling facts? Sure, he's strongly biased, and I don't always agree, but that doesn't mean he isn't worth reading. I prefer him over the usual bloviation sports writers offer.

 

[Deluded Puck]

Because he's smart and backs his points up with something resembling facts? Sure, he's strongly biased, and I don't always agree, but that doesn't mean he isn't worth reading. I prefer him over the usual bloviation sports writers offer.

This. Berkshire's agenda against Weise is a little well, odd. He had poor possession numbers because his hockey ability wasn't respected at all by Tortorella.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

I really don't like or rate Weise (he's one of many overrated, under-talented, under-sized crowd favourites for the Habs) but at sub 2m he'd be a good luxury to have on the 4th line.

I don't think he has the jam or speed to play with Eller and DLR and he MUST be kept away from the top6.

He gets too big for his britches after a good spurt of games, it's very annoying.

 

[NoNachoNoParty]

He gets too big for his britches after a good spurt of games, it's very annoying.

I agree with this. Otherwise i love #22. True Hab.

 

[Dagistitsyn]

I really don't like or rate Weise (he's one of many overrated, under-talented, under-sized crowd favourites for the Habs) but at sub 2m he'd be a good luxury to have on the 4th line.

I don't think he has the jam or speed to play with Eller and DLR and he MUST be kept away from the top6.

He gets too big for his britches after a good spurt of games, it's very annoying.

Under sized? Really?