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Confirmed with Link: [DAL/CAR] Stars acquire Mikko Rantanen (signed 8x$12m) for Logan Stankoven, 2 1sts, 2 3rds

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Kcb12345 said:
Probably.

Seems like Rantanen was playing hardball and out of the blue they traded him.

Makes sense why he gave in to the Stars offer eventually rather than missing out on another opportunity
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He wasn’t playing hardball

They were 6 weeks away from trade deadline and 6 months away from UFA market. They were having talks and Rants said he was willing to take less to stay

If Colorado had given him the ultimatum then one could say Rantanen was playing hardball if he still said no

He got bigger offers from Toronto, Carolina, Edmonton. The money was there and would have been there, he wanted the fit over money and chance at competing
 
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Diving a little deeper into his stats, Rantanen has some interesting numbers this year.

Leads the league with 13 empty-net points & tied for lead with 7 empty-net goals. His powerplay point total isn't that far off from his empty net one this year (21 PP points).

He and MacKinnon (12 points) have feasted on empty nets this season

Hope he can pump up his even-strength goal numbers here these last however many games. Only has 11 so far this season (had 25 last year, 37 the year before). For comparison, 11 even strength goals puts him 7th on our team, 1 ahead of Harley and 1 behind Dadonov. The stint in Carolina affected that a bit.

The good news is, he's our even-strength points leader now with 49 on the season (Robertson 2nd at 48).

He's definitely having a "down" season goal-scoring wise even though he has 27 goals lol. Contract year, Carolina stint, etc. Can't help. Should hopefully play with some relief now after that contract extension/trade

Only thing I know we will have our picky moments about in his game is his PP movement. He's a very stationary player on the powerplay (basically identical to Jamie Benn in terms of movement and with turnovers when pressured), but his finishing is phenomenal and his one-timer is lethal. We just gotta set him up

These are just my thoughts after watching every goal of his from the past 5-6 seasons and then watching every point from this season too.
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
Even if Rantanen sucks this year I don't care, he will be more settled next year.
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He got traded against his will to Carolina.

He chose to sign in Dallas


We’re getting a different player and all the people running their mouths are just coping they didn’t land him. This dude held up an entire trade market because everyone wanted him.
 
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Troy McClure said:
But it was a discount. I don't understand the complaint.
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I'd rather have a 34 year old Duchene on $3M who was making $8M rather than a 39 year old Pavelski on $5.5M who was making $7M.

$5M discount vs $1.5M.. so yes both are discounts but there is a difference in what you can do. Again it's fine Pavelski was paid fairly and he wasn't a detriment because of the contract.. but when you are 39 and say you want a Cup you could take way less than $5.5M if you really wanted to win.
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
I'd rather have a 34 year old Duchene on $3M who was making $8M rather than a 39 year old Pavelski on $5.5M who was making $7M.

$5M discount vs $1.5M.. so yes both are discounts but there is a difference in what you can do. Again it's fine Pavelski was paid fairly and he wasn't a detriment because of the contract.. but when you are 39 and say you want a Cup you could take way less than $5.5M if you really wanted to win.
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Hold on. You're now shifting to Duchene.

Spezza took a league minimum deal to be a lower line part time player, in part, because no one else was going to pay him much else.

Duchene was recently bought out and is still being paid by the Predators, so his discount isn't as big as you make it seem.

Pavelski was a top line player playing top line minutes. He wasn't enjoying buyout money on the side. His final cap hits of $6 and $5.5 million were nice discounts.

I think it's absolute bullshit to claim a guy doesn't want to win a Cup enough just because he also got paid.
 
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www.nytimes.com

Inside the Mikko Rantanen sweepstakes and an Avalanche-Stars arms race on a playoff collision course

With a likely Stars-Avalanche first round in the cards, GMs Jill Nill and Chris MacFarland spoke to The Athletic about their deadline moves.
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First, failed contract talks with Colorado led to his Jan. 24 trade to Carolina. Colorado’s final offer to Rantanen in January was $11.65 million per year on a max-term deal. It’s important to note here that while Rantanen wasn’t ready to sign that, his camp, led by agent Andy Scott from Octagon, figured they would keep negotiating for months ahead of July 1. Instead, they got blindsided with the trade to Carolina.

Then, contract talks with Carolina culminated in the Hurricanes offering $12.5 million a year on a max-term deal, with the team expressing a willingness to move upward from there if there was a genuine interest in negotiating. But it was never about money for Rantanen; he just wasn’t feeling the fit in Carolina, especially not in the here and now — being pressed to make a decision by the March 7 trade deadline. So no, he wasn’t ready to sign with them at this juncture.

And finally, there was the drama-filled negotiation with Dallas, which for a few hours had the proposed trade all but nixed (and other teams, including Florida and Toronto, trying to get back in). As TSN colleague Darren Dreger reported during TradeCentre, the ask from Rantanen’s camp was $13 million Friday morning and the Stars were not backing down from $12 million. Someone had to blink.

In the end, Rantanen is the one who said he would take the Stars’ offer and save the trade.
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Was watching a bunch of videos yesterday to hear people’s takes on all this. One thing Friedman said that was interesting and made me happy was that a bunch of teams were trying to stop this trade. Not an exact quote. But I’d love to hear how they were trying to stop it? Sending BS trade offers to the Stars and Canes to waste their time? Maybe just prank calls?
 
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Kipper 17 said:
Was watching a bunch of videos yesterday to hear people’s takes on all this. One thing Friedman said that was interesting and made me happy was that a bunch of teams were trying to stop this trade. Not an exact quote. But I’d love to hear how they were trying to stop it? Sending BS trade offers to the Stars and Canes to waste their time? Maybe just prank calls?
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My money is on other gm’s calling Nill to ask if his refrigerator is running.
 
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Kipper 17 said:
Was watching a bunch of videos yesterday to hear people’s takes on all this. One thing Friedman said that was interesting and made me happy was that a bunch of teams were trying to stop this trade. Not an exact quote. But I’d love to hear how they were trying to stop it? Sending BS trade offers to the Stars and Canes to waste their time? Maybe just prank calls?
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I'd assume just trying to tie up the canes until time expired.
 
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