D Jackson LaCombe - Anaheim Ducks, NHL (2019, 39th, ANA)

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Sean Garrity

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It's because LaCombe has a high IQ (aka smarts) that enables LaCombe to improve year after year. With a low IQ, then LaCombe wouldn't have the capacity to improve or improve greatly. He went to Minny to improve his defense being a converted defenseman against much tougher competition than high school players. LaCombe's defense was mostly a finished product in his junior year in college, which is why the Ducks' GM tried to sign him, but LaCombe wanted one more year, along with being a captain.

One thing that people don't know about LaCombe is that he's a left shooting player who's played his NCAA career on the right side. That probably includes you.

You're doing what other Ducks posters were/are still doing, denying talent observed when shared. I can share live observations, videos, and box scores, but Duck fans still deny the information. So you can stop lying to yourself that it's only box score scouting. Hell, even in our first rookie tournament game this year, I sharing how great LaCombe was on the ice, but others said his game was weak and even called his assists "incidental". Fans are looking for flash when I'm identifying efficiency. Everybody (except me) missed giving LaCombe the assist on the Ducks first goal, a shortie by Pitre, because LaCombe put himself into position to interrupt a pass from down low to back up to the FO dot, which caused the puck to pop over players and in front of teammate Pitre. Three games later, more and more Duck fans are jumping on the band wagon. Other players Duck fans denied talent shared by me are the drafting of McTavish and Carlsson. So what you're doing isn't new to me.

What made LaCombe's game skyrocket was after playing at the WJC-20, and getting abused in the Russian game. He lost his confidence in that Russian game, but the coaches kept putting him onto the ice judiciously here and there, including a two zone pass to spring for a breakaway goal. Instead of remaining shellshocked, he took his game to another level when he returned to the NCAA, scoring nearly a point per game. And he hasn't looked back since.

LaCombe's game is about efficiency instead of constant flash. While he does possess flash, he uses it at the right time, like Leo Carlsson. With Minty, Zell, and Luneau playing on the same ice with LaCombe, LaCombe's defense stands out far more than all three CHL d-man award winners for their respective leagues. All three CHL players are tenacious in the Ozone, but there's more to be desired in their own zone.

LaCombe's come along way since that WJC-20 Russian game. Of course, you knew that, right? No. I don't think so.

I think all he was trying to say was that his decision making was lacking as a defenseman, and that's likely attributed to the position change switch. However, he's continued to improve so obviously he's learning and showing increased hockey IQ from the back end.
 
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A player converting from forward to defense later on in the development process is a contributing factor to hockey IQ; it's not an absolution. LaCombe has all the tools but his decision making has always been his weakness as a defenseman. That doesn't mean he wasn't good or hasn't improved. But it was easily his weakness. Looking at numbers isn't always the best sign when it comes to college hockey. Physical maturation alone can have a large effect on a player's numbers in college, respective of their mental improvements.
This is interesting because I didn’t follow him at all in college and in the games I’ve watched of him the last year, his hockey IQ is what stood out to me the most.

He honestly reminded me of Lindholm, always in the right place and always making the smart play. He doesn’t have Hampus’ physicality, but I also think is skating is stronger than Hampus’ at this point.
 

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It's because LaCombe has a high IQ (aka smarts) that enables LaCombe to improve year after year. With a low IQ, then LaCombe wouldn't have the capacity to improve or improve greatly. He went to Minny to improve his defense being a converted defenseman against much tougher competition than high school players. LaCombe's defense was mostly a finished product in his junior year in college, which is why the Ducks' GM tried to sign him, but LaCombe wanted one more year, along with being a captain.

One thing that people don't know about LaCombe is that he's a left shooting player who's played his NCAA career on the right side. That probably includes you.

You're doing what other Ducks posters were/are still doing, denying talent observed when shared. I can share live observations, videos, and box scores, but Duck fans still deny the information. So you can stop lying to yourself that it's only box score scouting. Hell, even in our first rookie tournament game this year, I sharing how great LaCombe was on the ice, but others said his game was weak and even called his assists "incidental". Fans are looking for flash when I'm identifying efficiency. Everybody (except me) missed giving LaCombe the assist on the Ducks first goal, a shortie by Pitre, because LaCombe put himself into position to interrupt a pass from down low to back up to the FO dot, which caused the puck to pop over players and in front of teammate Pitre. Three games later, more and more Duck fans are jumping on the band wagon. Other players Duck fans denied talent shared by me are the drafting of McTavish and Carlsson. So what you're doing isn't new to me.

What made LaCombe's game skyrocket was after playing at the WJC-20, and getting abused in the Russian game. He lost his confidence in that Russian game, but the coaches kept putting him onto the ice judiciously here and there, including a two zone pass to spring for a breakaway goal. Instead of remaining shellshocked, he took his game to another level when he returned to the NCAA, scoring nearly a point per game. And he hasn't looked back since.

LaCombe's game is about efficiency instead of constant flash. While he does possess flash, he uses it at the right time, like Leo Carlsson. With Minty, Zell, and Luneau playing on the same ice with LaCombe, LaCombe's defense stands out far more than all three CHL d-man award winners for their respective leagues. All three CHL players are tenacious in the Ozone, but there's more to be desired in their own zone.

LaCombe's come along way since that WJC-20 Russian game. Of course, you knew that, right? No. I don't think so.

If you want to have a discussion, you'd be better served to drop the assumptions. I didn't only start following him after his NHL draft.
 
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This is interesting because I didn’t follow him at all in college and in the games I’ve watched of him the last year, his hockey IQ is what stood out to me the most.

He honestly reminded me of Lindholm, always in the right place and always making the smart play. He doesn’t have Hampus’ physicality, but I also think is skating is stronger than Hampus’ at this point.

Well, his hockey IQ has improved. And coaching, situational deployment, etc. all matter a lot, too. His path is not too dissimilar to K'Andre Miller. Another late convert to defense who had all the tools but you questioned whether the mental mechanics were there to put them all together consistently. Miller was very inconsistent in junior/college but really turned the corner in the professional ranks. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see LaCombe take a similar path.
 

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A player converting from forward to defense later on in the development process is a contributing factor to hockey IQ; it's not an absolution. LaCombe has all the tools but his decision making has always been his weakness as a defenseman. That doesn't mean he wasn't good or hasn't improved. But it was easily his weakness. Looking at numbers isn't always the best sign when it comes to college hockey. Physical maturation alone can have a large effect on a player's numbers in college, respective of their mental improvements.
I agree. Have always liked Lacombe, and it's been clear for a while that he has the potential to be a good NHL defenceman, but the decision-making has always been questionable. I do think the position change was a factor, as I felt he struggled more with decision-making off the cycle and in managing the forecheck, rather than with the play in front of him, which is a more common position for a forward to be in. That also improved overall during his Gopher years, especially in tracking in his own zone, as well as generally picking his spots better offensively.

It's because LaCombe has a high IQ (aka smarts) that enables LaCombe to improve year after year. With a low IQ, then LaCombe wouldn't have the capacity to improve or improve greatly. He went to Minny to improve his defense being a converted defenseman against much tougher competition than high school players. LaCombe's defense was mostly a finished product in his junior year in college, which is why the Ducks' GM tried to sign him, but LaCombe wanted one more year, along with being a captain.

One thing that people don't know about LaCombe is that he's a left shooting player who's played his NCAA career on the right side. That probably includes you.

You're doing what other Ducks posters were/are still doing, denying talent observed when shared. I can share live observations, videos, and box scores, but Duck fans still deny the information. So you can stop lying to yourself that it's only box score scouting. Hell, even in our first rookie tournament game this year, I sharing how great LaCombe was on the ice, but others said his game was weak and even called his assists "incidental". Fans are looking for flash when I'm identifying efficiency. Everybody (except me) missed giving LaCombe the assist on the Ducks first goal, a shortie by Pitre, because LaCombe put himself into position to interrupt a pass from down low to back up to the FO dot, which caused the puck to pop over players and in front of teammate Pitre. Three games later, more and more Duck fans are jumping on the band wagon. Other players Duck fans denied talent shared by me are the drafting of McTavish and Carlsson. So what you're doing isn't new to me.

What made LaCombe's game skyrocket was after playing at the WJC-20, and getting abused in the Russian game. He lost his confidence in that Russian game, but the coaches kept putting him onto the ice judiciously here and there, including a two zone pass to spring for a breakaway goal. Instead of remaining shellshocked, he took his game to another level when he returned to the NCAA, scoring nearly a point per game. And he hasn't looked back since.

LaCombe's game is about efficiency instead of constant flash. While he does possess flash, he uses it at the right time, like Leo Carlsson. With Minty, Zell, and Luneau playing on the same ice with LaCombe, LaCombe's defense stands out far more than all three CHL d-man award winners for their respective leagues. All three CHL players are tenacious in the Ozone, but there's more to be desired in their own zone.

LaCombe's come along way since that WJC-20 Russian game. Of course, you knew that, right? No. I don't think so.

I think you're picking the wrong partner to spar with. The tone is unfortunate because I think the interpretation of Lacombe as efficient is sort of an interesting one.
 
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Well, his hockey IQ has improved. And coaching, situational deployment, etc. all matter a lot, too. His path is not too dissimilar to K'Andre Miller. Another late convert to defense who had all the tools but you questioned whether the mental mechanics were there to put them all together consistently. Miller was very inconsistent in junior/college but really turned the corner in the professional ranks. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see LaCombe take a similar path.
A bit offtopic, but we were high on Miller as well, per reports. But he was picked just before our turn (so we picked Lundestrom).
Martin Madden, our draft guru, really likes those guys. Manson was a late convert as well and we got him in the 6th round. Marcus Pettersson (2nd round), Shea Theodore (1st round), Brandon Montour (2nd round) were all late to become defensemen IIRC.
 
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He was questionable + frustrating for much of his college career. Offensive tools + defensive lapses. Seemed to temper out during his last year, but could also have been the team being good lessening everybody's deficiencies.

He's definitely a good player to have in the system, but not somebody I'd be etching in stone in an NHL lineup.
 

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Very questionable prospect to have in the system, but not in the NHL :sarcasm:

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Been super impressive in pretty much all of his NHL games. Spent 6:30 seconds on the PK tonight and did it well. To me, his defensive game wasn’t a question, but his calmness on the puck, offensive and transition instincts have been impressive. Had two beautiful plays for his assist tonight.

Also didn’t know he was as physical as he’s shown. Very impressive in his limited NHL games going back to last year.
 

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1 assist, +2 rating, 4 blocked shots, 1 takeaway, 21:37 TOI (3rd on team), 28 shifts (1st on team), 6:28 PK TOI (1st on team).

Guess we've been watching the same college games for LaCombe, but have two completely different views.
Amazing how much improvement it is adding Drysdales, Mintyukov, LaCombe & Lybushkin while subtracting Shattenkirk and Klingberg.
 

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1 assist, +2 rating, 4 blocked shots, 1 takeaway, 21:37 TOI (3rd on team), 28 shifts (1st on team), 6:28 PK TOI (1st on team).

Guess we've been watching the same college games for LaCombe, but have two completely different views.
Or he's just going to be a better pro than he was a college player. Wouldn't be the first time.
 

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I really want the kids to stay in the AHL as long as possible, but LaCombe and Minty have both been fantastic. Lets hope they can keep it up.

Agreed, this is still a developmental season for the Ducks so having that option is great, but no one is going to complain if their play is forcing the club to keep them up as you mentioned (except maybe Zellweger and Hinds).
 

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I really want the kids to stay in the AHL as long as possible, but LaCombe and Minty have both been fantastic. Lets hope they can keep it up.
If they are ready and you have vets to support them, along with structure in the coaching system, you can see what they have. If needed, they can send them down later if their game falters, but I wouldn't be yoyo'ing them up and down. If you send them down, keep them down until near the end of the season to see how the extra A time has done for their game.
 

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I really want the kids to stay in the AHL as long as possible, but LaCombe and Minty have both been fantastic. Lets hope they can keep it up.
Lacombe, at least, is physically mature, and likely won't get bullied as much if he sticks in the NHL. I was impressed by how something seemed to click for him at the end of last year, finally. Hopefully it continues this year. He's got all the physical tools you want.

There is no doubt that it will be an adjustment learning how to play D in the NHL, but you could say that of just about any junior or college Dman. Very few make the transition seamlessly, which makes what Faber is doing all the more surprising.
 

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Lacombe has looked solid. Surprisingly physical, where did that come from? Gudas rubbing off on him?

Has to be coaching, because I even saw Fowler thinking about hitting someone. Culture wise I'm pretty sure all the dmen are being encourage to be aggressive with their sticks and bodies. Lacombe has been fantastic though and I agree his physicality has been a welcome addition to his game. My knock on him has always been that he doesn't use his frame enough.
 

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What's his upside? 60 pts, 1st pairing?
I wouldn't think anything close to 60 points. 60 points for a dman is extremely impressive. Even guys like McAvoy has never hit 60 points and Sergachev has hit over 60(64 points) once in his career.. just to name a couple of many top dmen.

Lacombe is a solid dman that can play in alot of situations but with the offensive dmen the Ducks have on the roster and in their system, I don't think Lacombe will get too much PP time.

I can see him logging alot of minutes and killing alot of penalties.
 
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