Baksfamous112
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Not really sure people are sleeping on him. He didn’t have a good D1 (factors in and out of his control), but I haven’t really seen many people knock him. Sentiment seems he still projects as a good top 4 dman!
He was drafted to be a first pair D.Not really sure people are sleeping on him. He didn’t have a good D1 (factors in and out of his control), but I haven’t really seen many people knock him. Sentiment seems he still projects as a good top 4 dman!
That’s an interesting debate, honestly. I think he was drafted as a high floor RHD. I think Montreal thought that he could develop into a first pairing guy, but would probably end up as a second pair guy.He was drafted to be a first pair D.
Simashev was a panic pick because they didn’t think Reinbacher was going to be taken top 5. Reinbacher was also Philly and Nashville pick at 5 had Montreal traded the pick to them.That’s an interesting debate, honestly. I think he was drafted as a high floor RHD. I think Montreal thought that he could develop into a first pairing guy, but would probably end up as a second pair guy.
I think it’s almost the same projection that Arizona had when selecting Simashev the next pick despite the two being two completely different players stylistically.
Simashev wasn't panic pick. If you don't know don't tell. Arizona traveled personally to scout Simashev and But - both are from Lokomotiv system. They knew what they are doing and why.Simashev was a panic pick because they didn’t think Reinbacher was going to be taken top 5. Reinbacher was also Philly and Nashville pick at 5 had Montreal traded the pick to them.
Reinbacher was absolutely drafted to be a top pair RHD. You don’t draft someone #5 overall in a very deep draft if his ceiling is simply a top 4 D. He still has ways to go but he still project to be just that, a very solid two-way top pair RHD if he keep his trajectory.
Simashev was a panic pick because they didn’t think Reinbacher was going to be taken top 5. Reinbacher was also Philly and Nashville pick at 5 had Montreal traded the pick to them.
Reinbacher was absolutely drafted to be a top pair RHD. You don’t draft someone #5 overall in a very deep draft if his ceiling is simply a top 4 D. He still has ways to go but he still project to be just that, a very solid two-way top pair RHD if he keep his trajectory.
There is no such thing as a panic pick… especially drafting that high. The amount of time and planning put into the draft is absolutely insane… not to mention teams have their scouting staff arrive to drafts almost a week in advance to have daily meetings that run for hours and hours going over their lists again.Simashev was a panic pick because they didn’t think Reinbacher was going to be taken top 5. Reinbacher was also Philly and Nashville pick at 5 had Montreal traded the pick to them.
Reinbacher was absolutely drafted to be a top pair RHD. You don’t draft someone #5 overall in a very deep draft if his ceiling is simply a top 4 D. He still has ways to go but he still project to be just that, a very solid two-way top pair RHD if he keep his trajectory.
Simashev was a panic pick because they didn’t think Reinbacher was going to be taken top 5. Reinbacher was also Philly and Nashville pick at 5 had Montreal traded the pick to them.
Reinbacher was absolutely drafted to be a top pair RHD. You don’t draft someone #5 overall in a very deep draft if his ceiling is simply a top 4 D. He still has ways to go but he still project to be just that, a very solid two-way top pair RHD if he keep his trajectory.
Panic pick at 6 overallSimashev was a panic pick because they didn’t think Reinbacher was going to be taken top 5. Reinbacher was also Philly and Nashville pick at 5 had Montreal traded the pick to them.
Reinbacher was absolutely drafted to be a top pair RHD. You don’t draft someone #5 overall in a very deep draft if his ceiling is simply a top 4 D. He still has ways to go but he still project to be just that, a very solid two-way top pair RHD if he keep his trajectory.
What trajectory are you seeing exactly? His D+1 was terrible for a “projected top pairing D”. If you could just elaborate so I can see what I’m missing? Stats, eye-test, growth, what did you see after he got drafted that suggests this? Just curious since you seem so sure of him.
That's completely incorrect. Watch the Habs 2023 draft video. They clearly think he'll be a top pairing right D. We'll see if they're right in the next few years.That’s an interesting debate, honestly. I think he was drafted as a high floor RHD. I think Montreal thought that he could develop into a first pairing guy, but would probably end up as a second pair guy.
I think it’s almost the same projection that Arizona had when selecting Simashev the next pick despite the two being two completely different players stylistically.
"Terrible" isn't necessarily the right choice of words.
well of course. They wouldn’t intentionally draft him top 5 if they believed his ceiling was a second pairing guy . But you’re right time w tell .That's completely incorrect. Watch the Habs 2023 draft video. They clearly think he'll be a top pairing right D. We'll see if they're right in the next few years.
Is that usually what teams aim for with top 5 picks? Second pair D, second line forwards, 1B goalies?. I think Montreal thought that he could develop into a first pairing guy, but would probably end up as a second pair guy.
Is that usually what teams aim for with top 5 picks? Second pair D, second line forwards, 1B goalies?
No matter what Hughes said about the pick after it was made they expect Rein to be a first pairing guy.
You forgot Luke Schenn and Thomas HickeyZach Bogosian, Griffin Reinhart, Ryan Murray, Erik Gudbranson, Adam Larsson, Noah Hanifin on the top of my head, were all top 5 defenceman picked. Reinbacher deserves to be picked where he was taken and has potential to be better than all of the above mentioned players. So, no stress.
They probably won’t be right if that’s the case. He could play in the top pairing in sense where he is the supporting defender for someone who is actually a true #1 D. Like Muzzin was for Doughty or Brain Rafalski was for Nick Lidstrom.That's completely incorrect. Watch the Habs 2023 draft video. They clearly think he'll be a top pairing right D. We'll see if they're right in the next few years.
Teams are looking for players to fit into their lineups at 5. It truly depends on the draft itself. Sometimes you are fortunate enough to draft an Elias Pettersson or Jake Sanderson. At 5, teams seem to either go with the high floor guy or the highest boom-bust guy. However, fans will always expect that draft position to produce a superstar because it’s so high in the draft, despite the fact it rarely does.Is that usually what teams aim for with top 5 picks? Second pair D, second line forwards, 1B goalies?
No matter what Hughes said about the pick after it was made they expect Rein to be a first pairing guy.
Extremely low?They probably won’t be right if that’s the case. He could play in the top pairing in sense where he is the supporting defender for someone who is actually a true #1 D. Like Muzzin was for Doughty or Brain Rafalski was for Nick Lidstrom.
If they thought he’d be a true #1 all situations elite defenseman, I think their expectations were a bit high.
Teams are looking for players to fit into their lineups at 5. It truly depends on the draft itself. Sometimes you are fortunate enough to draft an Elias Pettersson or Jake Sanderson. At 5, teams seem to either go with the high floor guy or the highest boom-bust guy. However, fans will always expect that draft position to produce a superstar because it’s so high in the draft, despite the fact it rarely does.
In the last 20 years these have been the selections:
Ivan Demidov, David Reinbacher, Cutter Gauthier, Kent Johnson, Jake Sanderson, Alex Turcotte, Barrett Hayton, Elias Pettersson, Olli Juolevi, Noah Hanifin, Michael Dal Colle, Elias Lindholm, Morgan Reilly, Ryan Strome, Nino Niederreiter, Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Karl Alzner, Phil Kessel, Carey Price, and Blake Wheeler
Your odds of getting a top line forward or top pairing D are extremely low at 5.
Thank you, no stressYou forgot Luke Schenn and Thomas Hickey
No stress