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D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

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Dominance said:
Montreal with the practically guaranteed L of the draft. I’m not trying to clown the team - this guy just does not have a ceiling even remotely high enough to justify a top-5 pick, much less in this stacked class.

I would be happy to be wrong. I just don’t see it.
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That would mean almost zero development from now. Why do you think he's not gonna get better at all? This kid just played the best season by a defender drafted out of Europe ever...comparable only to Rasmus Dahlin.
 
Dominance said:
Montreal with the practically guaranteed L of the draft. I’m not trying to clown the team - this guy just does not have a ceiling even remotely high enough to justify a top-5 pick, much less in this stacked class.

I would be happy to be wrong. I just don’t see it.
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#1 defenders are some of the most difficult things to get in the NHL, only guy I think they’ll regret passing on is Michkov. He is going to be a great NHLer.
 
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Hinterland said:
That would mean almost zero development from now. Why do you think he's not gonna get better at all? This kid just played the best season by a defender drafted out of Europe ever...comparable only to Rasmus Dahlin.
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What?
GermanSpitfire said:
#1 defenders are some of the most difficult things to get in the NHL, only guy I think they’ll regret passing on is Michkov. He is going to be a great NHLer.
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Like I said, I would love to be wrong. I like what Montreal has going on. I don’t see much dynamism in Reinbacher, and he was very reliant on pretty passive play (as regards what you would want from a guy with alleged 1C potential) and good fortune with secondary assists to put up his numbers.
 
Dominance said:
What?

Like I said, I would love to be wrong. I like what Montreal has going on. I don’t see much dynamism in Reinbacher, and he was very reliant on pretty passive play (as regards what you would want from a guy with alleged 1C potential) and good fortune with secondary assists to put up his numbers.
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Lol. Firstly, Reinbacher is a defender, not a C. Secondly, his assist split is pretty unheard of for a defender but the other way around. You probably fell for the Athletic clowns fake news:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Also, if anything, Reinbacher is over aggressive. That's also what caused him to miss games at the WC.

You might wanna read through the thread. The athletic scam was discussed already.
 
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Hinterland said:
Lol. Firstly, Reinbacher is a defender, not a C. Secondly, his assist split is pretty unheard of for a defender but the other way around. You probably fell for the Athletic clowns fake news:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Also, if anything, Reinbacher is over aggressive. That's also what caused him to miss games at the WC.

You might wanna read through the thread. The athletic scam was discussed already.
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I suppose I did. From the very little I have actually watched, I’m absolutely stunned he was a top-10 pick, let alone top-5.

But as I said, hopefully I’m wrong and he can be a Norris contender.
 
Mike Dukarm said:
Very Disappointed

With Guhle, Hutson, Barron, Mailloux, Harris, Xhekaj, Engstrom, Struble.. why a DEF. when you can have: Michkov or Leonard or Dvorsky

Suzuki Caufield
Dach Michkov

I was hoping for that
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I'm just hoping they went for who they saw as BPA rather than go after positional need.

The thing is, RD is a positional need, despite the big list of prospects you mentioned.
Let's give him time.

I mean, if you were hoping for Michkov, you'd wait until 2025-26 anyway. Let's see what Reinbacher does during the next few years
 
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Dominance said:
I suppose I did. From the very little I have actually watched, I’m absolutely stunned he was a top-10 pick, let alone top-5.

But as I said, hopefully I’m wrong and he can be a Norris contender.
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Again, read through the thread. Months ago I posted that he played the best draft season ever by a defenseman drafted out of Europe only comparable to Dahlin's. This was then supported by lots of numbers recently (not by me).

Also, his assist split is unique. He didn't just collect lucky points, he dominated the league more than any other prospect in his draft season before, maybe even more so than Auston Matthews but surely way more than any other defender. Roman Josi was pretty good in his own right back in the days but nowhere near Reinbacher's level. Not close. As I said many times you can expand this to entire Europe where only Dahlin comes close.

If you don't think Reinbacher justifies a top5 pick that's cool but this would also mean almost instant stagnation for Reinbacher and I don't really see it in this case. His development is very projectable and his game (elite skating and passing, excels at quick and accurate transition from defense to offense) will translate to the NHL very well. If this guy takes the puck away from you or your teammate, you better watch out. Even when facing the boards behind the net he can create offense in no time. He's a master of stretch passes, recognizes open ice and always knows where his teammates are.

The question marks are coachable in my view. With the puck he's rock solid and a very mature player but he can be a bit adventureous and over aggressive without the puck. Loves to step up against the puck. Also loves to join the rush, even crash the net with his team in possession. Nothing too crazy but it might not work quite as well in the NHL, at least not initially... and I can see certain NHL coaches not liking it all that much. As I said I think it's coachable though and no big deal.

Personally, I'd also love for Reinbacher to hold onto pucks for longer, get more comfortable with it but it's probably also a style thing. His vision of hockey is quick passing, quick transition. He's such a good passer, has such a good vision and loves fast paced hockey so he probably just doesn't feel the need to hold onto the puck or do fancy stuff with it.
 
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Hinterland said:
Again, read through the thread. Months ago I posted that he played the best draft season ever by a defenseman drafted out of Europe only comparable to Dahlin's. This was then supported by lots of numbers recently (not by me).

Also, his assist split is unique. He didn't just collect lucky points, he dominated the league more than any other prospect in his draft season before, maybe even more so than Auston Matthews but surely way more than any other defender. Roman Josi was pretty good in his own right back in the days but nowhere near Reinbacher's level. Not close. As I said many times you can expand this to entire Europe where only Dahlin comes close.

If you don't think Reinbacher justifies a top5 pick that's cool but this would also mean almost instant stagnation for Reinbacher and I don't really see it in this case. His development is very projectable and his game (elite skating and passing, excels at quick and accurate transition from defense to offense) will translate to the NHL very well.
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Can you please come and post this on the Habs board? I wanna poke my eyes out after spending a minute in there lol
 
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Favster said:
Can you please come and post this on the Habs board? I wanna poke my eyes out after spending a minute in there lol
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Nah. That's standard procedure on almost every board. Everybody has different preferences so the majority of posters is always upset, no matter who gets picked:laugh:

If you (or others) have a bit of time, I really suggest reading through the thread though. Lots of smart people (smarter than me like OP for example) with lots of good posts or info posted.
 
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Hinterland said:
Nah. That's standard procedure on almost every board. Everybody has different preferences so the majority of posters is always upset, no matter who gets picked:laugh:

I really suggest reading through the thread though. Lots of smart people (smarter than me like OP for example) with lots of good posts or info posted.
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You are 100% correct on that, just need to filter out the noise. Good post though, always fun when people defend their post with actual statistical evidence rather than emotional impulse.
 
Hostile Offer said:
Shouldn't you go up in arms for HuGo's head like all the other Habs fans? That seems like the reasonable thing to do.

That said I would love to see them not rush a top pick into the league for once.
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Nah, I’m not as smart as these guys, I’m just a fan and I can see the potential in solidifying the D with Guhle, Hutson, reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron and Xhekaj for the next 7-10 years.

Do the forwards need work and do we need a goalie yeah, we’re a few pieces off there but wingers are easier to grab then centres and D
 
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Colezuki said:
Nah, I’m not as smart as these guys, I’m just a fan and I can see the potential in solidifying the D with Guhle, Hutson, reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron and Xhekaj for the next 7-10 years.

Do the forwards need work and do we need a goalie yeah, we’re a few pieces off there but wingers are easier to grab then centres and D
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We have some good wingers in our system knocking on the door. We’ll see.
 
ICYMI: Earlier in the thread Habs fans, here are a few things I posted at near the WJC.

This was a sequence of events against Germany that I think is crazy, even looking back on it. He was on the ice for around 4 minutes straight before this clip, yet he still finds the energy to make these plays.






Then on one of the worst teams in WJC history, here is how his advanced meterics looked. Reminder, he did this on a team that scored 5 goals in the entire tournament.





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Nicko999 said:
Habs have had ONE player with 70+ pts season in the last decade so naturally they decide to not draft the game breaker.

Typical garbage from that team. I warned people Hughes should have been fired a while ago.

Also now, no more picks until #69. Not too bad for "rebuilding" team.

Just a complete joke.
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Honestly, Hes had 1 draft and it's ANYONES guess how SLAF turns out. Lets give him the 3 years he signed for to see how things are coming along. This was year two for him.. We just drafted the BEST D in this class. We got NEWHOOK and dach for practically nothing but a chicken with his head cut off in romanov and a couple darts.
 
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