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I wasn't even close on the forwards.lol

No Jecho, Petr, Perez.

Jecho is injured, Perez is a substitute (I'm also surprised that he's not there when there are some others), Benák.. sorry, but it was clear that when they didn't nominate him for the last tournament (where they could test him for the first time in this category) ), so they will definitely not take him to the championship :D
 

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Brankáři: Michael Hrabal (University of Massachusetts, Jakub Vondraš (Sudbury Wolves), Michael Schnattinger (Liberec)

Obránci: Vojtěch Port (Edmonton Oil Kongs), Adam Jiříček (Plzeň), Aleš Čech (Mladá Boleslav), Tomáš Cibulka (Val-d'Or Foreurs), Tomáš Hamara (Brentford Buldogs), Tomáš Galvas (Liberec), Matteo Kočí (Kamloops Blazers), Marek Alscher (Portland Winterhawks)

Útočníci: Adam Bareš (Pelicans Lahti), Matěj Přibyl (Vítkovice), Dominik Rymon (Everett Silvertips), Adam Židlický (Mississauga Steelheads), Jakub Hujer (Rimouski Oceanic), Matyáš Melovský (Bale-Comeau Drakkar), Sebastian Redlich (Södertäjle), Matěj Maštalířský (Litvínov), Ondřej Becher (Prince George Cougars), Robin Sapoušek (Victoria Royals), Jakub Štancl (Växjö Lakers), Šimon Slavíček (Flint Firebirds), Matyáš Šapovaliv (Saginaw Spirit), Jiří Kulich (Rochester Americans), Eduard Šalé (Barrie Colts)

I don't know where Dominik B is. Does anyone know?
Dominik Badinka simply didn't make the team, the coaches decided to pick different defensemen. I am OK with their decision. I suppose he was one of the players on the edge. The real pity is the absence of Dvořák who declined due to personal reasons (wich might be really whatever, we know nothing about his personal life). What may be surprising is the absence of Pérez, they apparently deciced to include more physical, tough guys on the roster. I think it is pretty apparent that the plan has been to have a group of offensively highly skilled forwards (Kulich, Šalé, Becher, Rymon, Sapoušek) accompanied by some well skating/physical ones who can add extra energy (Slavíček, Melovský, Přibyl, Hujer, Židlický), and then of course there is Šapovaliv who is kind of both. The roster looks good overall. The only slight doubt I have is if the defense will be physically strong and solid enough. There is Marek Alscher who certainly is a big, physical player, but the others are rather offensively minded defensemen, good with the puck, capable of making creative passes, but I am not completely sure how they will manage their own zone, especially the room around the net. Otherwise the team looks really fine.
 
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Dominik Badinka simply didn't make the team, the coaches decided to pick different defensemen. I am OK with their decision. I suppose he was one of the players on the edge. The real pity is the absence of Dvořák who declined due to personal reasons (wich might be really whatever, we know nothing about his personal life). What may be surprising is the absence of Pérez, they apparently deciced to include more physical, tough guys on the roster. I think it is pretty apparent that the plan has been to have a group of offensively highly skilled forwards (Kulich, Šalé, Becher, Rymon, Sapoušek) accompanied by some well skating/physical ones who can add extra energy (Slavíček, Melovský, Přibyl, Hujer, Židlický), and then of course there is Šapovaliv who is kind of both. The roster looks good overall. The only slight doubt I have is if the defense will be physically strong and solid enough. There is Marek Alscher who certainly is a big, physical player, but the others are rather offensively minded defensemen, good with the puck, capable of making creative passes, but I am not completely sure how they will manage their own zone, especially the room around the net. Otherwise the team looks really fine.
As I have written many times, I only saw Badinka in the national team and I did not see him play a single game at the level I expected from him.
Dvořák's absence is really unpleasant, I also have the feeling from our defense that he may have problems in his own third. And Dvořák would be a great fit here, as far as defense is concerned, he is a top defender.
I firmly believe that Augusta will give the team the belief that they can succeed, as Rulík did. It's absolutely the most important thing this team needs.
 
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Jecho is injured, Perez is a substitute (I'm also surprised that he's not there when there are some others), Benák.. sorry, but it was clear that when they didn't nominate him for the last tournament (where they could test him for the first time in this category) ), so they will definitely not take him to the championship :D
Benák was not really an option. They tried him in Extraliga for Plzeň and it was obvious he still needs to wait one year to be able to play men's hockey, and the WJC would be the same case. He's got a big talent but needs to become stronger, especially with his upper body, and also improve some aspects of positional game. I mean, his positional game is very good when he is facing guys of his age, but when the game becomes faster and physically more demanding, he is getting a bit lost on the ice. He needs to really adopt some patterns of playing without the puck, so that he doesn't have to think about them all the time and does them automatically. This is the case with many, I would say the majority of talented young players, so no problem for him, but he isn't yet ready for this tournament this year.
 
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As I have written many times, I only saw Badinka in the national team and I did not see him play a single game at the level I expected from him.
Dvořák's absence is really unpleasant, I also have the feeling from our defense that he may have problems in his own third. And Dvořák would be a great fit here, as far as defense is concerned, he is a top defender.
I firmly believe that Augusta will give the team the belief that they can succeed, as Rulík did. It's absolutely the most important thing this team needs.
I think Badinka could easily be there, but I consider the defensemen who are there no worse than him. He could be an option and nothing bad would happen, but it isn't so the the defense would be doomed without him. The absence of Dvořák is a bigger issue indeed. Players like Cibulka, Port, Galvas are all very good in playmaking on the offensive blue, but they can have problems with the own zone coverage. It will be up to the coaches to come with such a system those defensemen will be suitable for.
 

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Felcman not making this team as a drafted 3rd rounder is pretty embarrassing for the staff.. although the pick looked rough the minute it happened.
 

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Felcman not making this team as a drafted 3rd rounder is pretty embarrassing for the staff.. although the pick looked rough the minute it happened.

I don't like Felcman's game much. He is quite physical and decent defensively but his passing is often kind of sloopy and so is his stickhandling. Average skater. At least this has been my impression about him.
 
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I don't like Felcman's game much. He is quite physical and decent defensively but his passing is often kind of sloopy and so is his stickhandling. Average skater. At least this has been my impression about him.

I generally agree with you. However, his skating may be average for a 3rd round pick but I'd say it's decent at the very least for a 6'4/200lbs prospect.

I think he's the type of player you'd want on a WJC20 team. Big, physical, rock solid and strong on faceoffs. However, I don't know anything about the Czech coaching staff's plans for strategy etc. and I'm also not sure if Felcman is necessarily a must select for a team like Czechia. They should have enough players available who can step into such a role if needed.

Also, Felcman is just about to finally lock down his spot in Bellinzona. Only recently scored his 1st goal in pro hockey. Only became a regular there after his return from the November tournament he played for Czechia. I don't know if the situation of the prospects in their respective clubs is something that was taken into account when making the selection but it's possible Felcman could actually benefit from not playing the WJC20. He's also 05 born so if he stays healthy he should get another crack at a WJC20 tournament.
 
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i should say I'm excited about the team.

The glaring one is Dvorak... I absolutely had him in a 20 mintue shut down top 4 role and think he would've killed it. The rest are just nitpicks about players I prefer over others I may not know enough about. Agree with Bear.. seems like we went skill and big older bodies which I'm fine with. I do wonder about the 2 young D but do like that they play in Europe on big ice already. That could be an advantage for them as adjusting to big ice isn't always easy.

With our D.. I see a bunch of guys that can put up some points but not sure about preventing them.lol
 

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Dominik Badinka simply didn't make the team, the coaches decided to pick different defensemen. I am OK with their decision. I suppose he was one of the players on the edge. The real pity is the absence of Dvořák who declined due to personal reasons (wich might be really whatever, we know nothing about his personal life). What may be surprising is the absence of Pérez, they apparently deciced to include more physical, tough guys on the roster. I think it is pretty apparent that the plan has been to have a group of offensively highly skilled forwards (Kulich, Šalé, Becher, Rymon, Sapoušek) accompanied by some well skating/physical ones who can add extra energy (Slavíček, Melovský, Přibyl, Hujer, Židlický), and then of course there is Šapovaliv who is kind of both. The roster looks good overall. The only slight doubt I have is if the defense will be physically strong and solid enough. There is Marek Alscher who certainly is a big, physical player, but the others are rather offensively minded defensemen, good with the puck, capable of making creative passes, but I am not completely sure how they will manage their own zone, especially the room around the net. Otherwise the team looks really fine.
I assume you don't care much because Hrabal is gonna be the clear cut starter anyway but from the outside, the goalie selection behind him seems kinda weird. Czechia has many great goalie prospects and I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that those two are your best options. One has been kinda underwhelming for Kamloops last season from what I heard and the other one is struggling for OHL Sudbury this season. Certainly an interesting decision to select those two if you could also go with the Q's best goalie this season or 2 of the 3 best goalies in the entire CHL...among others. I admit I don't know any details about the Spunar injury...but even if he's unavailable I think Czechia would have had much better options:D
 
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i should say I'm excited about the team.

The glaring one is Dvorak... I absolutely had him in a 20 mintue shut down top 4 role and think he would've killed it. The rest are just nitpicks about players I prefer over others I may not know enough about. Agree with Bear.. seems like we went skill and big older bodies which I'm fine with. I do wonder about the 2 young D but do like that they play in Europe on big ice already. That could be an advantage for them as adjusting to big ice isn't always easy.

With our D.. I see a bunch of guys that can put up some points but not sure about preventing them.lol
I am completely not excited. The nomination is weird and I am dissapointed.

No Dvorak (for whatever reason, either he is idiot for not want to come or staff are idiots for not wanting him), no Perez (absolutelly ridiculous) and below average players like Koci, Zidlicky or Hujer taking up space for better and more interesting guys like for example above mentioned Perez, Curran, Fibigr, Badinka (yes sorry Goodman still better then Koci) or for example Siler. Basically anyone from our U20 league could go and be better then Zidlicky or Koci lol.

And why the f*** exactly are we bringing Vondras with his stunning 87% save percentage if we have Matecha (sadly Spunar injured) and Milota also in CHL.

Its like we once again dont even want to suceed for some reason lol, bringing much weaker team then what we could possibly muster.
 
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I am completely not excited. The nomination is weird and I am dissapointed.

No Dvorak (for whatever reason, either he is idiot for not want to come or staff are idiots for not wanting him), no Perez (absolutelly ridiculous) and below average players like Koci, Zidlicky or Hujer taking up space for better and more interesting guys like for example above mentioned Perez, Curran, Fibigr, Badinka (yes sorry Goodman still better then Koci) or for example Siler. Basically anyone from our U20 league could go and be better then Zidlicky or Koci lol.

And why the f*** exactly are we bringing Vondras with his stunning 87% save percentage if we have Matecha (sadly Spunar injured) and Milota also in CHL.

Its like we once again dont even want to suceed for some reason lol, bringing much weaker team then what we could possibly muster.
All good points... Are Perez and Dvorak from Liberec who the coach coached? Wonder what is going on if so.

Just realized fibigr was cut. Shame.

Vondras is funny for sure. To me it was a clear but 1-2 with hrabal and spubar. So watch schnatinnger start the quarter final matchup.lmao. Milota would've been a superior choice IMO. Matecha too. Hopefully hrabal is up to task as Czech teams love saying no to quality goalies and then benching the obvious starter. Just ask Vlejmelka or Pavelec lmao

I will say that I don't think it makes us much weaker. Just different than expected.
 

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I generally agree with you. However, his skating may be average for a 3rd round pick but I'd say it's decent at the very least for a 6'4/200lbs prospect.

I think he's the type of player you'd want on a WJC20 team. Big, physical, rock solid and strong on faceoffs. However, I don't know anything about the Czech coaching staff's plans for strategy etc. and I'm also not sure if Felcman is necessarily a must select for a team like Czechia. They should have enough players available who can step into such a role if needed.

Also, Felcman is just about to finally lock down his spot in Bellinzona. Only recently scored his 1st goal in pro hockey. Only became a regular there after his return from the November tournament he played for Czechia. I don't know if the situation of the prospects in their respective clubs is something that was taken into account when making the selection but it's possible Felcman could actually benefit from not playing the WJC20. He's also 05 born so if he stays healthy he should get another crack at a WJC20 tournament.

I assume they were considering him but at the end decided to invite different players of the same type. There is Přibyl, Hujer, Štancl, I expect 2 of those 3 to make the final roster, one of them will probably be cut. I believe Felcman was one of the players precisely at the edge and they picked some other guys at the end.
 

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I am completely not excited. The nomination is weird and I am dissapointed.

No Dvorak (for whatever reason, either he is idiot for not want to come or staff are idiots for not wanting him), no Perez (absolutelly ridiculous) and below average players like Koci, Zidlicky or Hujer taking up space for better and more interesting guys like for example above mentioned Perez, Curran, Fibigr, Badinka (yes sorry Goodman still better then Koci) or for example Siler. Basically anyone from our U20 league could go and be better then Zidlicky or Koci lol.

And why the f*** exactly are we bringing Vondras with his stunning 87% save percentage if we have Matecha (sadly Spunar injured) and Milota also in CHL.

Its like we once again dont even want to suceed for some reason lol, bringing much weaker team then what we could possibly muster.
I'm repeating myself, I know.. Sorry, I can really only evaluate Badinka from the national team and he played so "well" there that the coach withdrew him for the last third, he didn't play the next match at all and then the coach complained that some players didn't even notice, that they play for the national team. He just played horribly in the national team and I wrote about it here repeatedly. Would he be better than Kočí? Maybe, but the coach saw it exactly the same way.
I agree with Židlický, I think his name played a role here. His only asset is mercurial, his hockey IQ is poor.
I don't know much about goalkeepers, Špunar would probably go if he was healthy, I don't know what to think about Vondraš. A goalkeeper coach should know that..
 

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I am completely not excited. The nomination is weird and I am dissapointed.

No Dvorak (for whatever reason, either he is idiot for not want to come or staff are idiots for not wanting him), no Perez (absolutelly ridiculous) and below average players like Koci, Zidlicky or Hujer taking up space for better and more interesting guys like for example above mentioned Perez, Curran, Fibigr, Badinka (yes sorry Goodman still better then Koci) or for example Siler. Basically anyone from our U20 league could go and be better then Zidlicky or Koci lol.

And why the f*** exactly are we bringing Vondras with his stunning 87% save percentage if we have Matecha (sadly Spunar injured) and Milota also in CHL.

Its like we once again dont even want to suceed for some reason lol, bringing much weaker team then what we could possibly muster.
Dvořák was invited an declined. Either he had serious and understandable reasons (I hope so) or he is simply an idiot (hopefully not). Pérez is offically the fist forward "below the line", for the case somebody gets injured lat minute (hopefully not).

The players you are mentioning, like Fibigr, Badinka... I could imagine them making the team but I don't think the players who are there at the end would be substantially worse. As for Hujer, Židlický: I must admit I haven't seem much of their game this season, and eveluating them based on stats would obviously be a nonsense. The coaches were acually watching them in numerous games, I wasn't, so I won't pretend I know their game better than them.

I also don't like these "I am not excited, the coaches don't want the team to win..." fan rants. The coaches certainly want the team to win, and they are paid for watching and evaluating the players' game, considering various configurations of the system, combinations of players in lines, PP units, PK units. It is a full time job. I find it a bit unfair to rant this harsh over the work of people who have better education on the topic than us, much more information including insider information, have spent much more time over the topic. It reminds me a bit of the "if I was the doctor I would respond differently to the disease..." rants. I would suggest we should be more respectful to the hockey coaches, in general.

I'm repeating myself, I know.. Sorry, I can really only evaluate Badinka from the national team and he played so "well" there that the coach withdrew him for the last third, he didn't play the next match at all and then the coach complained that some players didn't even notice, that they play for the national team. He just played horribly in the national team and I wrote about it here repeatedly. Would he be better than Kočí? Maybe, but the coach saw it exactly the same way.
I agree with Židlický, I think his name played a role here. His only asset is mercurial, his hockey IQ is poor.
I don't know much about goalkeepers, Špunar would probably go if he was healthy, I don't know what to think about Vondraš. A goalkeeper coach should know that..

Židlický is a pure "skate'n'grind" winger, I can imagine him in the 4th line as a forechecker/puck hunter. Jakub Lauko for the Boston Bruins, this type of a player. He can't be assigned other than checking role. But in certain situations he can be useful. At least that's my superficial impression from watching him play.
 

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Dvořák was invited an declined. Either he had serious and understandable reasons (I hope so) or he is simply an idiot (hopefully not). Pérez is offically the fist forward "below the line", for the case somebody gets injured lat minute (hopefully not).

The players you are mentioning, like Fibigr, Badinka... I could imagine them making the team but I don't think the players who are there at the end would be substantially worse. As for Hujer, Židlický: I must admit I haven't seem much of their game this season, and eveluating them based on stats would obviously be a nonsense. The coaches were acually watching them in numerous games, I wasn't, so I won't pretend I know their game better than them.

I also don't like these "I am not excited, the coaches don't want the team to win..." fan rants. The coaches certainly want the team to win, and they are paid for watching and evaluating the players' game, considering various configurations of the system, combinations of players in lines, PP units, PK units. It is a full time job. I find it a bit unfair to rant this harsh over the work of people who have better education on the topic than us, much more information including insider information, have spent much more time over the topic. It reminds me a bit of the "if I was the doctor I would respond differently to the disease..." rants. I would suggest we should be more respectful to the hockey coaches, in general.



Židlický is a pure "skate'n'grind" winger, I can imagine him in the 4th line as a forechecker/puck hunter. Jakub Lauko for the Boston Bruins, this type of a player. He can't be assigned other than checking role. But in certain situations he can be useful. At least that's my superficial impression from watching him play.
In terms of type, he may be a bit of Lauko's style, but he is a disproportionately worse player. I can't imagine him ever playing in the NHL.
I agree with the rest, it's pointless to berate the roster here, where there is no obvious omission. Dvořák apparently decided on his own..
 

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In terms of type, he may be a bit of Lauko's style, but he is a disproportionately worse player. I can't imagine him ever playing in the NHL.
I agree with the rest, it's pointless to berate the roster here, where there is no obvious omission. Dvořák apparently decided on his own..
Of course Židlický is no future NHLer, that would be a complete miracle. But neither is WJC nearly any NHL level competition. Possibly majority of the players will never have a game in the NHL, even from the teams Canada, United States, Sweden. I would be surprised if more than, say, 5-6 players from this Czech roster would ever have at least a couple of NHL appearances. Most of them will probably have average/decent careers in Europe. Normal in junior hockey. So, Židlický might take the Lauko role at the WJC level. I remember quite a bunch of players taking similar role in the past at taking it decent, later they became average Extraliga players at best.
 
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Agree that I wasn't expecting Zidlicky but he does have a motor and if he is in bottom 6 and told to skate skate skate and get it to the other's teams end then it is fine. If I see him on PP1 and getting 20 a night then I rant.lol

I didn't know much about last years bottom 6 either and they impressed the hell out of me!
 

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Dvořák was invited an declined. Either he had serious and understandable reasons (I hope so) or he is simply an idiot (hopefully not). Pérez is offically the fist forward "below the line", for the case somebody gets injured lat minute (hopefully not).

The players you are mentioning, like Fibigr, Badinka... I could imagine them making the team but I don't think the players who are there at the end would be substantially worse. As for Hujer, Židlický: I must admit I haven't seem much of their game this season, and eveluating them based on stats would obviously be a nonsense. The coaches were acually watching them in numerous games, I wasn't, so I won't pretend I know their game better than them.

I also don't like these "I am not excited, the coaches don't want the team to win..." fan rants. The coaches certainly want the team to win, and they are paid for watching and evaluating the players' game, considering various configurations of the system, combinations of players in lines, PP units, PK units. It is a full time job. I find it a bit unfair to rant this harsh over the work of people who have better education on the topic than us, much more information including insider information, have spent much more time over the topic. It reminds me a bit of the "if I was the doctor I would respond differently to the disease..." rants. I would suggest we should be more respectful to the hockey coaches, in general.



Židlický is a pure "skate'n'grind" winger, I can imagine him in the 4th line as a forechecker/puck hunter. Jakub Lauko for the Boston Bruins, this type of a player. He can't be assigned other than checking role. But in certain situations he can be useful. At least that's my superficial impression from watching him play.
Zidlicky is not good enough for NT, same for Hujer, sorry points are not everything but players even the completely defensive ones (who are considered above average) are close to .ppg at Hujer age in those leagues. 0,5 is simply not good enough. And Zidlicky is in the OHL third season already and made exactly zero progress during that time. He maybe can have some qualities, but we can surely find a player with the same qualities, which can also be more productive in the front.

Perez is playing stable in the ELH against men. He is praised from all sides, in every Liberec game I saw this year he played really good, He is even producing decent amount of points. I dont think we have such a luxury to miss out on a player like this. Strangely we miss out on a player who plays at the senior level whole season (and playing good), but we take for example Pribyl, who have barely played any games in ELH and is playing just on junior level... why?

And Vondras over Matecha or Milota is a pure joke. The guy has a 87% save percentage ffs, in a team which is second in its divison. So there cant even be an excuse for him playing in the bad team. Clearly he is just not good enough.

Look I am not saying its copletely terrible lineup and that because of those couple of players I am missing or dont want to see in the squad we are gonna get completely thrashed. Just that I am disapointed and that we could have muster together a stronger team from what was available.

Before the senior WCH in May I said, that I dont like our team, and that we could have put together a much better team from what was available. And I was right, it was a complete dissaster.

So maybe I will be 2 for 2, maybe not. I hope not, and that I am wrong this time lol.
 
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I also don't like these "I am not excited, the coaches don't want the team to win..." fan rants. The coaches certainly want the team to win, and they are paid for watching and evaluating the players' game, considering various configurations of the system, combinations of players in lines, PP units, PK units. It is a full time job. I find it a bit unfair to rant this harsh over the work of people who have better education on the topic than us, much more information including insider information, have spent much more time over the topic. It reminds me a bit of the "if I was the doctor I would respond differently to the disease..." rants. I would suggest we should be more respectful to the hockey coaches, in general.
Well, I'm Swiss so I'm completely neutral here but I do follow the CHL quite a bit and at least the goalie selection is certainly a shocker. From a neutral point I don't think there are many reasons two select those two goalies who got pretty much nothing but lit up in the CHL. On the other hand, Jakub Milota is, in my humble view, the Q's top goaltender this season and could go fairly early in the upcoming draft. Lukas Matecha is even better than Milota. Incredibly consistent and dominant goalie. A top5 goalie in the entire CHL, in my view even top4. I don't think there's much if anything at all between Matecha and Jan Spunar this season performance wise. Of course the latter should be on the team as well if there's even a slight chance of him playing during the WJC20.

The only reason I can come up with is that the coaching staff has already crowned Hrabal as their undisputed nr.1 and either just wants to avoid a goalie controversy by not selecting viable alternatives to Hrabal or they just didn't want to select goalies that are doing well for their respective clubs to warm the bench or eat nachos in the pressbox. After all, a selection for the WJC20 plus preparation camp means you're gonna miss many games of your team. If Hrabal is the clear nr.1, the backup most certainly won't play more than two games, maybe even just one.

That's a bold strategy of course. If something happens to Hrabal or if he somehow gets rattled (you never know) then you're in trouble.

If it helps, our idiot coaches selected two completely useless goalies as well without an actual need to do so. So Swiss coaches are certainly not better than yours:laugh:
Ewan Huet is fine (not great) but the other two are even worse than the ones you selected. Beglieri is a CHL failure as well and Grüter is a joke anyway. We have many good 06 born goalies but maybe coaches are just afraid to select young goalies and that's why Milota and the Swiss 06 kids didn't get selected.
 
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Zidlicky is not good enough for NT, same for Hujer, sorry points are not everything but players even the completely defensive ones (who are considered above average) are close to .ppg at Hujer age in those leagues. 0,5 is simply not good enough. And Zidlicky is in the OHL third season already and made exactly zero progress during that time. He maybe can have some qualities, but we can surely find a player with the same qualities, which can also be more productive in the front.

Perez is playing stable in the ELH against men. He is praised from all sides, in every Liberec game I saw this year he played really good, He is even producing decent amount of points. I dont think we have such a luxury to miss out on a player like this. Strangely we miss out on a player who plays at the senior level whole season (and playing good), but we take for example Pribyl, who have barely played any games in ELH and is playing just on junior level... why?

And Vondras over Matecha or Milota is a pure joke. The guy has a 87% save percentage ffs, in a team which is second in its divison. So there cant even be an excuse for him playing in the bad team. Clearly he is just not good enough.

Look I am not saying its copletely terrible lineup and that because of those couple of players I am missing or dont want to see in the squad we are gonna get completely thrashed. Just that I am disapointed and that we could have muster together a stronger team from what was available.

Before the senior WCH in May I said, that I dont like our team, and that we could have put together a much better team from what was available. And I was right, it was a complete dissaster.

So maybe I will be 2 for 2, maybe not. I hope not, and that I am wrong this time lol.
You are saying points are not everything but still You are evaluating players based almost solely on points production ...

As with the goalies, I was expecting Milota to be there, but maybe it would be difficult for him to accept the role of the backup goalie (with Hrabal being the undisputed no.1)? I don't know, have no idea how is he as a person.
 

Goodman68

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Well, I'm Swiss so I'm completely neutral here but I do follow the CHL quite a bit and at least the goalie selection is certainly a shocker. From a neutral point I don't think there are many reasons two select those two goalies who got pretty much nothing but lit up in the CHL. On the other hand, Jakub Milota is, in my humble view, the Q's top goaltender this season and could go fairly early in the upcoming draft. Lukas Matecha is even better than Milota. Incredibly consistent and dominant goalie. A top5 goalie in the entire CHL, in my view even top4. I don't think there's much if anything at all between Matecha and Jan Spunar this season performance wise. Of course the latter should be on the team as well if there's even a slight chance of him playing during the WJC20.

The only reason I can come up with is that the coaching staff has already crowned Hrabal as their undisputed nr.1 and either just wants to avoid a goalie controversy by not selecting viable alternatives to Hrabal or they just didn't want to select goalies that are doing well for their respective clubs to warm the bench or eat nachos in the pressbox. After all, a selection for the WJC20 plus preparation camp means you're gonna miss many games of your team. If Hrabal is the clear nr.1, the backup most certainly won't play more than two games, maybe even just one.

That's a bold strategy of course. If something happens to Hrabal or if he somehow gets rattled (you never know) then you're in trouble.

If it helps, our idiot coaches selected two completely useless goalies as well without an actual need to do so. So Swiss coaches are certainly not better than yours:laugh:
Ewan Huet is fine (not great) but the other two are even worse than the ones you selected. Beglieri is a CHL failure as well and Grüter is a joke anyway. We have many good 06 born goalies but maybe coaches are just afraid to select young goalies and that's why Milota and the Swiss 06 kids didn't get selected.
I just hope we don't end up like the Slovaks last year. The absolute best goalkeeper (even according to statistics) was not originally nominated at all, and Gajan got into the team only when the original number one failed completely. Hrabal should be fine, I hope the rest of the nominees aren't some behind the scenes game..
 

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Looks like we're still going to be playing with the "old" jerseys based on a contract with Nike. Pity, would have been nice to see the national emblem again.
 

czechcanadian

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Not a bad line up in my eyes. Although I wouldn’t trust me because I haven’t watched enough this past year.

Happy to see all the discussion and some new faces adding input.

I think if Šale, Šapo, Kulich are all good to go, that line could do some real damage.

Really intrigued to see Hrabal in net considering he was a 1st round hopeful last draft. Haven’t seen him play at all.

Shame about Dvorak but the positive would be that a younger player gets a big opportunity ie. Jiricek, Galvas…
Czechs are set up to be really good next year (when it’s here in Ottawa!) and if those 2 guys get enough playing time, that will really bode well for them going forward.

Jecho! Also shame. But he will replace Šapo next year. Hopefully he heals quickly and continues his good season.

Excited to see how we do. I think compared to last year we’re better offensively but defense is worse (could still surprise).
Goaltending could be similar. Hard to imagine doing better than what Suchanek did last year.

Anyways Češi do toho!
 

Czechboy

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Well, I'm Swiss so I'm completely neutral here but I do follow the CHL quite a bit and at least the goalie selection is certainly a shocker. From a neutral point I don't think there are many reasons two select those two goalies who got pretty much nothing but lit up in the CHL. On the other hand, Jakub Milota is, in my humble view, the Q's top goaltender this season and could go fairly early in the upcoming draft. Lukas Matecha is even better than Milota. Incredibly consistent and dominant goalie. A top5 goalie in the entire CHL, in my view even top4. I don't think there's much if anything at all between Matecha and Jan Spunar this season performance wise. Of course the latter should be on the team as well if there's even a slight chance of him playing during the WJC20.

The only reason I can come up with is that the coaching staff has already crowned Hrabal as their undisputed nr.1 and either just wants to avoid a goalie controversy by not selecting viable alternatives to Hrabal or they just didn't want to select goalies that are doing well for their respective clubs to warm the bench or eat nachos in the pressbox. After all, a selection for the WJC20 plus preparation camp means you're gonna miss many games of your team. If Hrabal is the clear nr.1, the backup most certainly won't play more than two games, maybe even just one.

That's a bold strategy of course. If something happens to Hrabal or if he somehow gets rattled (you never know) then you're in trouble.

If it helps, our idiot coaches selected two completely useless goalies as well without an actual need to do so. So Swiss coaches are certainly not better than yours:laugh:
Ewan Huet is fine (not great) but the other two are even worse than the ones you selected. Beglieri is a CHL failure as well and Grüter is a joke anyway. We have many good 06 born goalies but maybe coaches are just afraid to select young goalies and that's why Milota and the Swiss 06 kids didn't get selected.
I find this is a Czech tradtion. I'm not kidding when I say I expect Schatniger to start the QF.lol It's how we do things. To me, the goalies couldn't be wrong yet here we are.
 

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