WJC: Czech Republic 2019 Roster Talk
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Nosek is a proof of bad czech development. This guy came to NHL as below average skater and he looks like speedster now (based on preseason).Good thing is he obviously improved during the summer in CZ, so there must be somebody here who knows how to do it
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I only wish we will have more than 10 players on draft every year. 15 would be good starting point. Its kind of miracle how many overagers we managed to send to NHL. Imo Radil, Simek, Francouz, even Kovar will play some games this season.
But its not a solution for czech national team. They will all have one major opportunity on int stage, which is 2022 OGs. Then they will get old. But none of them will become crucial player on such a stage imo.
Anyway if result of our program is only narrowing deviations in numbers of drafted czechs every year and we will settle on number 10-12, then its imo pretty poor result of that last 9 years.
)I only wish we will have more than 10 players on draft every year. 15 would be good starting point. Its kind of miracle how many overagers we managed to send to NHL. Imo Radil, Simek, Francouz, even Kovar will play some games this season.
But its not a solution for czech national team. They will all have one major opportunity on int stage, which is 2022 OGs. Then they will get old. But none of them will become crucial player on such a stage imo.
Anyway if result of our program is only narrowing deviations in numbers of drafted czechs every year and we will settle on number 10-12, then its imo pretty poor result of that last 9 years.
Martin Hubner
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I personaly think, that number of drafted players is not very important. More important is number of players who made it into some top league (NHL, KHL, AHL, for czechs players extraliga) and when you look at players born in 1999 then you can see some good players coming out from Czech republic.Nosek is a proof of bad czech development. This guy came to NHL as below average skater and he looks like speedster now (based on preseason).Good thing is he obviously improved during the summer in CZ, so there must be somebody here who knows how to do it
I only wish we will have more than 10 players on draft every year. 15 would be good starting point. Its kind of miracle how many overagers we managed to send to NHL. Imo Radil, Simek, Francouz, even Kovar will play some games this season.
But its not a solution for czech national team. They will all have one major opportunity on int stage, which is 2022 OGs. Then they will get old. But none of them will become crucial player on such a stage imo.
Anyway if result of our program is only narrowing deviations in numbers of drafted czechs every year and we will settle on number 10-12, then its imo pretty poor result of that last 9 years.
Players who will propably play in NHL:
Filip Chytil
Martin Kaut
Martin Nečas
Filip Zadina
Players who can possibly make it into NHL in future:
Jakub Galvas
Filip Kral
Jachym Kondelik
Ostap Safin
Jakub Skarek
And another guys that cay in some top league (AHL, KHL, Extraliga...)
Radim Šalda
Jakub Pour
Ondřej Buchtela
Daniel Bukač
Ondřej Chrtek
Oscar Flynn
Michael Gaspar
Jan Hladonik
Kryštof Hrabik
David Kvasnička
Ondřej Machala
Also a lot of guys from 2000, 2001, 2002... so i think its not that bad.
Czechboy
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Jan Kovar got sent to AHL as well.. I thought he was a lock with a one way contract. Hronek also didn't make it. Simek did but not sure if he gets his first NHL game. Sulak is in the same situation. Hope he can stick and take advantage of the injuries to Detroit's D. Also, Jaskin in Washington is great news.
The younger generations don't have the same skating problems Nosek's, Jaskin's or Kovar's had. Nowadays in the junior national teams you usually have 2-3 high-end skaters and the rest is about the average. The overall skating skill went up, especially for forwards. (unfortunately defensemen remain average to below average skaters mostly)Nosek is a proof of bad czech development. This guy came to NHL as below average skater and he looks like speedster now (based on preseason).Good thing is he obviously improved during the summer in CZ, so there must be somebody here who knows how to do it
I only wish we will have more than 10 players on draft every year. 15 would be good starting point. Its kind of miracle how many overagers we managed to send to NHL. Imo Radil, Simek, Francouz, even Kovar will play some games this season.
But its not a solution for czech national team. They will all have one major opportunity on int stage, which is 2022 OGs. Then they will get old. But none of them will become crucial player on such a stage imo.
Anyway if result of our program is only narrowing deviations in numbers of drafted czechs every year and we will settle on number 10-12, then its imo pretty poor result of that last 9 years.
Michal Teply and Martin Has should be in running. Jan Mysak could make it as an U17.
Martin Hubner
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Its not bad but there is still massive gap compare to Finnland which should be 5th or 4th best nation now. I mean we finnally produced some, ot lets say two elite centers (hopefully). But if we follow same path with 10 draftees every year including three goalies, thats like 7 players every year including both forwards and Ds. But, on the other hand it looks like most of these guys now really make a team in some time. Anyway still development obviously does not have central results. They promised to focus on Ds like 5 years ago? And results are poor imo.
But not to be that much critical, I watched Vitkovice - Zlin match and seemed to me as quite a good modern hockey.
I made a thread about czech players in NHL in Centar Europe forum...maybe we can discuss them there and keep this thread for WJC roster?
Martin Hubner
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So, what do you guys think about this?
Goalies:
Jakub Škarek
Lukáš Dostál
Nick Malík
Defense:
Jakub Galvas
Filip Král
Šimon Kubíček
Martin Hugo Haš
David Kvasnička
Libor Zábranský / Dalimil Mikyska
Offense:
Martin Nečas
Filip Chytil
Kryštof Hrabík
Matěj Pekař
Filip Zadina
Martin Kaut
Jakub Lauko
Jan Jeník
Jaromír Pytlík / Matěj Blümel / Jan Myšák
Michal Teplý
Ostap Safin
Vojtěch Štrondala
Lineup:
Škarek
Dostál
Galvas Král
Kvasnička Kubíček
Haš Mikyska / Zábranský
Zadina Chytil Pekař
Lauko Nečas Kaut
Jeník Hrabík Safin
Teplý Štrondala Pytlík/Blümel/Myšák
Goalies:
Jakub Škarek
Lukáš Dostál
Nick Malík
Defense:
Jakub Galvas
Filip Král
Šimon Kubíček
Martin Hugo Haš
David Kvasnička
Libor Zábranský / Dalimil Mikyska
Offense:
Martin Nečas
Filip Chytil
Kryštof Hrabík
Matěj Pekař
Filip Zadina
Martin Kaut
Jakub Lauko
Jan Jeník
Jaromír Pytlík / Matěj Blümel / Jan Myšák
Michal Teplý
Ostap Safin
Vojtěch Štrondala
Lineup:
Škarek
Dostál
Galvas Král
Kvasnička Kubíček
Haš Mikyska / Zábranský
Zadina Chytil Pekař
Lauko Nečas Kaut
Jeník Hrabík Safin
Teplý Štrondala Pytlík/Blümel/Myšák
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Czechboy
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This team could get to the Semi's and then who knows? However, Necas and Chytil are unlikely. We'll see about Zadina and Kaut as well.
Also, is Salda no longer elibible?
Martin Hubner
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Necas and Chytil likely won't be there. Barring health problems, Salda and Plasek will make the team. Either way, with the defense we will have we are not going anywhere.
Zadina Pekař Jeník
Teplý Lauko Kaut
Plášek Kondelík Myšák
Machala Hrabík Safin
Blumel/Pytlík/Střondala
Galvas Šalda
Král Zábranský
Kvasnička? Haš
Dostál
Škarek
Patera
I have seen both games and the Czech team was awful, truly awful. Teply, Mysak and Najman are the only ones who had some good moments, Peterek with some flashes. Cernohorsky was a complete unknown for me and he looked pretty decent, along with Poizl they are the only defensemen who exhibited some offensive skills. Russians are faster, much more skilled, stronger. Just no chance really. In both games there have been tons of penalties on both sides and the Czech PP is one of the most pathetic ones I have ever seen. Thought we are getting better at this part of the game (in all age groups), but it has been so bad.
The worst thing is while yes, we are missing about a half of the team, I am not sure how much better the team would be anyway? 01's are doing terribly in the CHL, should they continue at their current "pace" none of them even sniffs draft. From Europe we are missing Has, Pytlik and Suhrada. Not sure about Suhrada, but Pytlik and Has are obviously very good.
Considering how much promise the 2001 age group showed the last two years, they have been a huge let down so far this season.
Martin Hubner
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Škarek
Dostál
Malík
Galvas Král
Šalda Kvasnička
Haš Kubíček
Zadina Pekař Jeník
Teplý Lauko Kaut
Blümel Hrabík Myšák
Plášek Štrondala Safin
Agreed. It is early and they still can easily pick it up but for sure I was expecting higher productivity from the players in CHL.
At least Simon Kubicek has started strong with 7 points in 7 games. Even though it's a small sample still, for a defensman eligible for 2020 draft it's impressive. Crossing fingers he keeps it up, we need good defensmen badly.
Btw. I know you watch players from time to time, do you have some report on Kubicek from the time he had played in Europe? In one thread I saw you metioned skating as his weakness.
He would help alot, but I don't think our defence is good enough and our goalies always find a way to collapse...IMO last year was our best chance.
But maybe it's just me...each year (well, almost) I thought we improved enough to medal...and I'm probably too pesimistic now
To be sincere, Hajek should have made the team on merit. Unfortunately we have a Marc Staal on the team.
Also, Chytil has 2 games to shown better play, if he doesn't it's probably that he will get sent down for contract purposes, in this case I don't ser why the Rangers woundn't let him go to the WJC.
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Who did we lose from last year that makes us worse? I felt that group was dominated by 18 year olds who are 19 this year. The only major loss would be Hajek and Chytil. This is assuming that Kaut, Zadina and Necas are available.
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D take longer to develop.. I was hoping he'd make it but wasn't upset or anything about that. It would've been a nice surprise. Hronek was pressboxed last night and Sulak is in the AHL. Just not a great start for our young Czechs.
czechcanadian
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I honestly believe that this year is a far better chance. I don’t see why we wouldn’t get Zadina and Kaut. And Necas is a big possibility too. You throw Safin, Pekar, Jenik, and Lauko to the mix and you’ve got a pretty darn good forward group. Maybe the best we’ve had in a very long time.
Sure the defence will be weak, but I don’t think it’s anybworse then last year. I truly believe that Kubicek and Hugo Has could be good surprises even at their young age. And Galvas is going to be really solid.
Goaltending will be fine. Dostal is fantastic. He likely gets the start over Skarek imo.
So anyways it should be fun at the very least. I see us being very competitive.
I am also pessimistic after last years breakdown especially, but overall I think we’re better this year.
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