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Cyberpunk 2077 - New RPG by CD PROJEKT RED

TheDoldrums said:
Such a massive publisher that they've never published a game outside the Witcher franchise...

In the context of actual mega publishers like EA and Square Enix, they are the little guys. Even something like Bethesda, which is obviously a tier below those two is still well above their reach. So when they spend ~4 years making their magnum opus and betting everything on one game, it's gratifying for some to see it pay off so well. They were nothing before Witcher 2, that gave them the resources to make Witcher 3, that's given them the resources to make Cyberpunk. Seems like an easier studio to root for than most of the AAA industry.

And I'm not one of the biggest Witcher fans out there by any means, I had multiple games I liked more in 2015. But I did think it was a great game and I could tell how much they put into it through the sidequests, which got more care and good writing than most games main quests.
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That's like saying Valve is only about Half Life and it's derivatives (Portal, CS, TF). CD Projekt also owns GOG, which makes up the bulk of their revenue (about $125 mil USD). They're just as AAA as everyone else.
 
Nullus Reverentia said:
That's like saying Valve is only about Half Life and it's derivatives (Portal, CS, TF). CD Projekt also owns GOG, which makes up the bulk of their revenue (about $125 mil USD). They're just as AAA as everyone else.
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I guess I differentiate having a storefront from actually publishing releases.

Square Enix published 30 different games last year of varying quality, mostly bad. That's AAA.

I give AAA a negative connotation because it often involves interfering with developers in the search for higher profits. SE screwing up Mankind Divided, Konami attempting to sabotage MGSV, Ubi Soft games all feeling the same, EA making Battlefront 2 pay to win...these are examples of bad AAA publishing. I don't associate any of that stuff with CDPR. Good for them for making money as a middleman in digital distribution. All I care about is if the games they put their name on are quality efforts. That's why people trust them.
 
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Nullus Reverentia said:
That's like saying Valve is only about Half Life and it's derivatives (Portal, CS, TF). CD Projekt also owns GOG, which makes up the bulk of their revenue (about $125 mil USD). They're just as AAA as everyone else.
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I was rather disappointed when someone (maybe you) corrected me in another thread that the work conditions for devs on these games aren't great. But when I think of "AAA" developers, I think of borg like entities that suck up dev studios and churn out overly focus tested and cynically designed mass consumption games. CDPR may have hit it big and are now an online store front as well, but for game development they still only have a select few games that maintain full artistic integrity. And while speaking of Valve/Steam these days can be a dirty word for some, don't forget that GOG started as a Steam alternative that was DRM free and focused on bringing old games bag to the market.

I don't think they're anywhere near the same as "everyone else". Really the only thing you can pin on them there is bad work conditions.
 
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aleshemsky83 said:
This game is super similar to Human Revolution/Mankind divided.
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Definitely a lot of similarities, though those games were hub-based maps. If they can bring that level of detail to an open world like they did with Witcher 3, it would be very impressive.

Also Deus Ex takes itself really seriously (which I prefer in this setting) and I found the tone of the Cyberpunk demo to be more light-hearted. You don't really see (intentional) comedy in Deus Ex.
 
I pre-ordered the collectors edition (Xbone). My Xbone is relatively unloved, meaning that it has plenty of HD space unlike my PS4, and I saved $50 through BB gamers club, which will likely end up being one of the last games that I buy with it, before it expires.

I also had a $5 coupon (ohh!).

I'll probably also end up getting it for PC, as I think that's the system it should be played on, but no collectors edition, so...
 
I was digging the trailer, but when the titles came up I felt like something was missing. Then Keanu Reeves popped up and next thing you know, I already purchased the game. Broke the cardinal rule in the process.
 
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If not for their really poor track record as far as treating their employees, I would be pre-ordering right now.

Will still be keeping a close eye on this game leading up to release, though.
 
ArGarBarGar said:
If not for their really poor track record as far as treating their employees, I would be pre-ordering right now.

Will still be keeping a close eye on this game leading up to release, though.
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Are you talking about crunch?
I'm guessing you never bought any naughty dog or rockstar games or the Witcher or basically any AAA studio games?
 
Leafs at Knight said:
Are you talking about crunch?
I'm guessing you never bought any naughty dog or rockstar games or the Witcher or basically any AAA studio games?
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This is just another version of the "yet you participate in society" argument, which is about as lazy as you can get.

Also:

1. The last time I bought a game from those three publishers was 2014 when I bought The Witcher 3.
2. I cited their track record with regards to their employees as a reason I wouldn't pre-order, not buy the game entirely.

And yeah, crunch is a problem in the VG industry, in my opinion, and CDPR is no different in that regard (the fact they had to pinky promise to treat their employees better is a significant red flag).
 
I have no idea why anyone would pre-order a game a year before it comes out anyways unless they give you a nice discount for doing so. Why not just hold onto your money and buy it when it comes out? They aren't going to run out of copies or steam codes, unless you want one of the versions with all the plastic collectors junk I guess.
 
ArGarBarGar said:
This is just another version of the "yet you participate in society" argument, which is about as lazy as you can get.

Also:

1. The last time I bought a game from those three publishers was 2014 when I bought The Witcher 3.
2. I cited their track record with regards to their employees as a reason I wouldn't pre-order, not buy the game entirely.

And yeah, crunch is a problem in the VG industry, in my opinion, and CDPR is no different in that regard (the fact they had to pinky promise to treat their employees better is a significant red flag).
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I can guarantee you've bought games from developers where serious crunch happened, it happens at most studios. In my home city they make Warframe which is an ongoing f2p game and I've talked to people before where serious crunch has occurred.

It's a huge problem in the industry.
 
Leafs at Knight said:
I can guarantee you've bought games from developers where serious crunch happened, it happens at most studios. In my home city they make Warframe which is an ongoing f2p game and I've talked to people before where serious crunch has occurred.
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Okay, so what?

I know for a fact that CDPR has had major publicized issues with that and knowing that I am making an informed choice to be more careful about how I spend my money with them.

Am I a hypocrite if I buy any video games, or what? What point are you trying to make?
 
ArGarBarGar said:
Okay, so what?

I know for a fact that CDPR has had major publicized issues with that and knowing that I am making an informed choice to be more careful about how I spend my money with them.

Am I a hypocrite if I buy any video games, or what? What point are you trying to make?
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I read an article about the developers of Slime Rancher who made a point to avoid the crunch and stick to 40 hour work weeks. It's a nice, relaxing game if you're looking for something made by a team that hasn't been subjected to brutal working conditions. And the game turned out great despite (or because of?) the lack of required overtime.
 
ArGarBarGar said:
Okay, so what?

I know for a fact that CDPR has had major publicized issues with that and knowing that I am making an informed choice to be more careful about how I spend my money with them.

Am I a hypocrite if I buy any video games, or what? What point are you trying to make?
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Yeah pretty much.
 
Beau Knows said:
I have no idea why anyone would pre-order a game a year before it comes out anyways unless they give you a nice discount for doing so. Why not just hold onto your money and buy it when it comes out? They aren't going to run out of copies or steam codes, unless you want one of the versions with all the plastic collectors junk I guess.
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Are they doing this? That would be a little strange for a major triple-a title coming to such a major platform like Xbox and Microsoft. I'd imagine they wouldn't charge you until they ship to avoid any disputes under consumer protection laws/rights.

In my experience ordering from major retailers and studios - I haven't been charged until ship/release date.
 
Daxi said:
Are they doing this? That would be a little strange for a major triple-a title coming to such a major platform like Xbox and Microsoft. I'd imagine they wouldn't charge you until they ship to avoid any disputes under consumer protection laws/rights.

In my experience ordering from major retailers and studios - I haven't been charged until ship/release date.
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I believe Steam does unless it's changed.
 
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