CXLVIII - Coyotes owner Alex Meruelo had 'productive' meeting with Phoenix mayor

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Greatgreatgreat, but what specific mechanism does the league have to forcibly move a franchise that still intends to play in a particular market?
 
Yes.... and do you realize Arizona got "spared" because there was alway some entity (including Glendale) who stepped up to the plate to keep them there?

Right now this is being viewed as the LEAGUE bailing despite the notion there's a guy who's been working the last four years to get a permanent solution and is about to take one last shot at it, and the league decides it can't wait two more months??

Fluid and speculative situations are often viewed wrong initially and water is wet.
 
Sorry...we went from the Coyotes announcing their arena plans if they get the land...to this being leaked a week later? What am I missing here? What happened aside from the mayor getting pissed off?
Announcing plans isn’t an active plan.
 
This is interesting. In the past, the NHL and team have vehemently denied a possible relocation.



More importantly, we now have a journalist with pretty good league sources saying exactly what Seravelli has been reporting today.
 
More importantly, we now have a journalist with pretty good league sources saying exactly what Seravelli has been reporting today.

or they are all using the same "source' that could very well be wrong. Everyone is running it based on what Frank originally posted.
 
To be fair, while there is no good way to move a team, there's an argument to be made to give fans a chance to say goodbye. Thrashers fans that went to their final game had basically no idea that they were doing so.
Agreed but this could have been all done last offseason. The NHL is screwing over Coyotes fans here badly. There better be a plan to get into Houston or Atlanta because losing these TV markets is not a great look.
 
Uncle Frank is really pushing this story. He will look really bad if they are back at playing at the Mullett next year.

He always been known to double down regardless of what happens. He either says see see i told you so or he says what he heard is wrong. He will never ever ever admit that he didn't get it right.
 
or they are all using the same "source' that could very well be wrong. Everyone is running it based on what Frank originally posted.
It's multiple sources and if it was wrong there wouldn't be this much detail. you need to be blaming the league here.
 
Virtually a lock like LV for an NBA team. So long as Bonderman/OVG or whatever party needs to be on board for an NBA team and being able to pay $4 billion for the expansion fee. Just using the Bucks and Suns recent sales prices of $3.5 and $4 bill valuations.

That's Las Vegas.

Are the Sonics back??
 
or they are all using the same "source' that could very well be wrong. Everyone is running it based on what Frank originally posted.

Did you read Kaplan's article or not?

"The NHL is preparing a contingency that could relocate the Arizona Coyotes to Utah as soon as next season, sources told ESPN."

"A league source told ESPN that a Coyotes relocation could involve two separate transactions."

The article is filled with that kind of language. She does her own investigating and right now, that investigating is corroborating what Seravelli has reported as well as adding in some more details.

The sources here aren't "wrong"... and as the Kaplan article and the Seravelli tweets have been saying, none of this is a done deal. If it doesn't happen, it's not going to be because the sources were wrong. It's going to be because the league decided not to go with this contingency plan for now. That doesn't dispute the existence of this plan.
 
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Merulo should have never been allowed to buy the team. He will win the auction and then build a mall. smh.
 
This is interesting. In the past, the NHL and team have vehemently denied a possible relocation.


I guess we can put to bed the BS about the Mullett being a temporary arena.

There is no replacement and this shows the league also views it that way.
 
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They are preparing for all options. It’s crystallizing as we speak that the owners do not want this to continue at Mullett unless it absolutely has to, and the only way it absolutely has to is if the team isn’t sold before June.

Sorry...we went from the Coyotes announcing their arena plans if they get the land...to this being leaked a week later? What am I missing here? What happened aside from the mayor getting pissed off?

Fine.... then who are you going to get to pony up the expansion price?? Who is going to pay $1-2 billion for a market that the league itself nuked??

All this is why I think there's an expansion deal in place.

AM has given no indication of selling the team, playing at Mullett while chasing an arena deal (First TED now North Scottsdale) proves this. He's been committed. Nothing has changed that would affect the commitment. Losing the auction really doesn't change anything from where he was after TED fell through.

It's possible that he decided that if the auction land is a no-go, THEN he'll sell. But the NHL saying "You need a CONDITIONAL deal in place now because we don't want to play a lame duck season in Mullet... so you gotta let SLC prepare to have a team for next season if the deal doesn't happen" it seems ULTRA unrealistic for the NHL to do anything on that kind of timeline.

And it means the NHL and AM have both done a 180 on making it work in PHX.


The more realistic scenario to me is that the NHL knows it's adding Salt Lake City in the near future, and because they know Salt Lake is coming, they'd just rather have a team playing in the Delta Center than Mullet arena for the next 3-5 years while a PHX arena gets built.

AM isn't so much as "selling" as he is "loaning" the operation of a franchise to SLC during an expansion timeline.


Pretend hypothetically that the NHL leak was "Smith is getting an expansion team." The first two comments would be "Who's #34?" and "Why don't they just move the Coyotes to Salt Lake NOW since Delta is better than Mullet?"

Doesn't that make more sense than a 180 on the NHL in Phoenix from both AM and the league?
 
Did you read Kaplan's article or not?

"The NHL is preparing a contingency that could relocate the Arizona Coyotes to Utah as soon as next season, sources told ESPN."

"A league source told ESPN that a Coyotes relocation could involve two separate transactions."

The article is filled with that kind of language. She does her own investigating and right now, that investigating is corroborating what Seravelli has reported as well as adding in some more details.

The sources here aren't "wrong"... and as the Kaplan article and the Seravelli tweets have been saying, none of this is a done deal. If it doesn't happen, it's not going to be because the sources were wrong. It's going to be because the league decided not to go with this contingency plan for now. That doesn't dispute the existence of this plan.

The plan has to exist in case the team doesn't get the land... But the issue is that its being pushed out that the team is gone and moved long before june 27th.
 
or they are all using the same "source' that could very well be wrong. Everyone is running it based on what Frank originally posted.

Sure, but this isn't me reporting this. Frank has a brand and a reputation. If this is wrong, he has a massive egg on his face.

Prominent journalists have been wrong before, will be wrong again, and could even be wrong now, but this has more weight than a rando online.
 
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