Unless there's a binding contract somewhere we don't know about then none of this is legally actionable.
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Unless there's a binding contract somewhere we don't know about then none of this is legally actionable.
you can still sue for damages as a results of someone's action regardless of there's a contract saying said someone won't do that. Sky harbor is on record saying they won't object and now they are objecting when they said they weren't going to.
TheLegend
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Okay….. time for @1CasualFan to come out of hiding. 
Oh… for context… the entire Phoenix city budget is $1.7 billion.
Oh… for context… the entire Phoenix city budget is $1.7 billion.
TheLegend
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I find it hard to imagine that another lawsuit will help push this project through.
I gather that Meruello is very pissed with the City of Phoenix, and is expressing his displeasure in his own inimitable way.
I gather that Meruello is very pissed with the City of Phoenix, and is expressing his displeasure in his own inimitable way.
Llama19
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Coyotes President, CEO sits down with 12News to discuss legal fight
The NHL team's development firm said Wednesday they're seeking damages against the City of Phoenix for trying to "sabotage" the Tempe Entertainment District project.
YouTube video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AnisTKuYu4
The NHL team's development firm said Wednesday they're seeking damages against the City of Phoenix for trying to "sabotage" the Tempe Entertainment District project.
YouTube video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AnisTKuYu4
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The full statement reads like something an especially emotional teenager would write if you let them make a press release. How did they think anyone would take them seriously after releasing that?
mouser
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Yes. If Phoenix wins their lawsuit against Tempe then the land zoning changes passed by Tempe to enable the TED project area would be voided.
The upcoming vote essentially gives the citizens of Tempe the opportunity to “void” the Tempe city council decisions. If Phoenix already has the Tempe city council zoning decision voided then it doesn’t matter whether the Tempe citizen vote is for approval.
TheLegend
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No more than Phoenix trying to flip the script saying the Coyotes should also be angry with Tempe and side with them with this sophomoric statement
Arizona Coyotes countersue Phoenix over Tempe arena deal challenge
The countersuit was announced on Wednesday, just a week after Phoenix sued Tempe to stop the team's planned development near Town Lake.
www.azcentral.com
I completely agree with Sky Harbor's statement, it is basically the same thing I have been saying since the first lawsuit was announced. Why did Tempe send those two letters? That's what kicked all these legal dramas off in the first place and no one has yet made a plausible explanation for them.No more than Phoenix trying to flip the script saying the Coyotes should also be angry with Tempe and side with them with this sophomoric statement
Arizona Coyotes countersue Phoenix over Tempe arena deal challenge
The countersuit was announced on Wednesday, just a week after Phoenix sued Tempe to stop the team's planned development near Town Lake.
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
Boris Zubov
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I missed it somewhere along the line, but what are the two letters you keep referring to? Sorry if they are right in front of me.
TheLegend
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You're stuck on two letters that are a very small part of what is a much bigger picture.
TheLegend
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These two..... Sky Harbor has them on their site too but these are the two letters
https://www.tempe.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/101393
https://www.tempe.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/101391
Boris Zubov
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Thanks. Did they send these unsolicited or were they in reply to ongoing discussions regarding Sky Harbor?
mouser
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How many letters have Phoenix and Tempe exchanged over this whole IGA negotiation? I’m very confident the two letters Tempe sent are only a small % of the total back and forth discussion.
Without seeing the contents of the other letters and negotiation details between Phoenix and Tempe I don‘t see how we can conclude those two Tempe letters are the catalyst for the Phoenix lawsuit. They could just as easily be the ”convenient excuse” for the Phoenix lawsuit.
mouser
Business of Hockey
Can’t imagine any reason why Tempe would send them unsolicited. Must be part of a longer discussion with Sky Harbor/Phoenix we don’t have privy to.
Tempe Entertainment District | Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
Tempe Entertainment District | City of Tempe, AZ
There you have both sides with all of their attached documentation. These are government entities so almost all of their negotiations are public. Sky Harbor clearly points to the letters in their complaint as meaning negotiations were over and thus they brought the suit.
mouser
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Thanks, can you point out where in those links I can find the letters Phoenix sent to Tempe during the negotiations following the November 2022 Tempe city council vote approving TED?
mouser
Business of Hockey
This was forwarded to Tempe:
https://www.skyharbor.com/media/sl4oxzuc/phx-noise-contour-letter-1-27-23.pdf
Sky Harbor showed up to this executive work session on February 9th:
There is also this from the complaint but I am trying to find the actual correspondence:
"After the Tempe City Council voted to advance the TED and Modera projects, Phoenix proposed to Tempe a possible resolution of their dispute over the Agreement and the TED’s and Modera’s residential units. But, on January 16, 2023, Tempe rejected that proposed resolution. The next day, on January 17, 2023, the Phoenix City Manager and the Tempe City Manager again discussed a proposed resolution and Tempe’s rejection of Phoenix’s earlier proposed resolution. On January 30, 2023, Phoenix and Tempe representatives met, again, to discuss a possible resolution. On January 31, 2023, Phoenix sent Tempe the Airport’s 2019 noise contours, as Tempe had requested. On February 2, 2023, Phoenix sent Tempe more materials and information, as Tempe had requested. On February 7, 2023, Phoenix sent Tempe a proposed draft amendment to the Agreement, as Tempe had requested. On February 9, 2023, Phoenix presented at the Tempe City Council, regarding certain aspects of a proposed resolution of the dispute over the Agreement. On March 17, 2023, the Tempe City Manager sent the Phoenix City Manager two letters, rejecting Phoenix’s proposed resolution and further delaying any resolution of this dispute over the Agreement. In these letters, Tempe’s City Manager said that “Tempe is currently unable to respond” and “Tempe cannot yet agree.” Tempe did not provide a timeline for its answer, instead stating only that “Tempe will proceed with all deliberate speed.”
https://www.skyharbor.com/media/kj0lgjt5/complaint-w-exhibits.pdf
See above for at least Sky Harbor's timeline of events but if it tells you anything this is the listing under "Letters to City of Phoenix" on Tempe's TED website (notice the gap in correspondence):
Perhaps but then it should be pretty easy to explain them. Clearly Tempe had some end they wanted to achieve by sending them otherwise they wouldn't have sent them.
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