Confirmed with Link: Curtis Glencross Traded to Washington for 2nd&3rd Round Picks

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let's hope for a caps 1st round playoff elimination

Totally see it coming. They have sucked in the playoffs in the past, so what could possibly stop them of doing that again? :)

I'm fine with the return. It gives the Flames opportunities to trade up in the draft, or just use them to a defender before the deadline. And it should be a deep draft with many capable defenders, so looking good.
 

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"Who are we going to replace him with?" Is the questions Calgary has been answering all season when virtually all of our veterans have been injured at one point or another. I could see Colborne being utilized to fill Glencross' role and have another callup to sustain some offense.
 

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eh, if we miss the playoffs because we lose 1 guy (which could happen to due injury anyway), we didn't deserve to make it. Also given the way Glenny has talked this year about 'not taking a discount' and complaining about minutes, I don't know that hes a guy we want around long term anymore.

Also, I am hoping if we move Glenny its for some help on the backend instead of just a pick.

This is how I feel as well. I am content with the picks as the return however.
 

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Not relevant for people who feel that what he brings had become redundant.
Honestly I think people were more worried about tearing apart Glencross's game this year than actually appreciating what he brought to this team.

We don't have many physical forwards, so I fail to see redundancy there. He was by far the best at deflecting shots and playing in front of the net on the PP; again no redundancy. We lack forwards capable of playing a shutdown role, no redundancy there either. 4th in scoring among our forwards, can scoring be redundant?

What is redundant about him other than he plays LW and is streaky? Because that is all I can come up with.
 

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But it's not like Glencross was the difference maker on this team. He got passed by youngsters on the team. The Flames are a business, and if we held on to every expiring UFA without getting anything in return is absolutely terrible asset management. Players know it, coaches know it, GMs know it.

In all honesty it opens up a spot for a player who's hungry to be in the show and could bring something to the team that Glencross couldn't.

If you read my previous posts, I've been saying the exact same thing. But Glencross isn't a washup by any means, not yet at least.
 

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Honestly, I'd have been just as fine with keeping Glencross. Replacing his minutes and two way game will be tough, but to me, this shows that Calgary is still committed to the rebuild.

I also completely understand where AF is coming from though. Losing Glencross does hurt the chance of making playoffs, but I think with the loss of Gio, even with Glencross, the odds are slim now.

Finally, I think trading Glencross may have been in a sense, a favor to him. Glencross made it clear he wanted a raise. It's become clear Calgary wasn't going to give him that. They send Glencross to a team that has a legitimate chance at a cup.

It's also fortunate that there are still plenty of good picks in the 10-20 range this year. Even with Calgary moving out of a top pick, they'll still end up with a quality player. Even if Calgary winds up missing the playoffs by one point, this season will be nothing but a huge success. Plenty of young guys took the next step and continued to develop. We saw Brodie develop into what appears to be a legitimate #1 defenseman. Gaudreau has proven he'll be a top 6 forward. Monahan is looking to be an elite two way guy, but he's still providing offense. Bouma is showing he may be more than a bottom 6 shutdown forward. Colborne and Jooris have developed nicely as well. Hudler turned into that #1 RW we've been needing.

As long as Calgary doesn't go out and make any desperation moves, I'm happy with the direction this team is heading.
 

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Honestly I think people were more worried about tearing apart Glencross's game this year than actually appreciating what he brought to this team.

We don't have many physical forwards, so I fail to see redundancy there. He was by far the best at deflecting shots and playing in front of the net on the PP; again no redundancy. We lack forwards capable of playing a shutdown role, no redundancy there either. 4th in scoring among our forwards, can scoring be redundant?

What is redundant about him other than he plays LW and is streaky? Because that is all I can come up with.

I was all for keeping Glencross. But there were no contract extension talks, and we are still fighting for a playoff spot. He's on a team that is more likely to make the playoffs than the Flames.
 

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Honestly I think people were more worried about tearing apart Glencross's game this year than actually appreciating what he brought to this team.

We don't have many physical forwards, so I fail to see redundancy there. He was by far the best at deflecting shots and playing in front of the net on the PP; again no redundancy. We lack forwards capable of playing a shutdown role, no redundancy there either. 4th in scoring among our forwards, can scoring be redundant?

What is redundant about him other than he plays LW and is streaky? Because that is all I can come up with.

I agree he has been whipping boy all year, its a shame to for a guy that took a big home town discount, only to have his own fans belittle his efforts on the way out.
 

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Glencross is 32, we are not gonna be a cup contender for a few years, assuming we become one, and Glennie's value with be be much less at 34 when he plays the hard minutes he does. We've made the mistake in the past of hanging on to guys forever instead of getting value.
 

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Glencross is 32, we are not gonna be a cup contender for a few years, assuming we become one, and Glennie's value with be be much less at 34 when he plays the hard minutes he does. We've made the mistake in the past of hanging on to guys forever instead of getting value.

Things Craig MacTavish would say.
Things Oilers fans have been saying for years.
Things Kevin Lowe would say.

Wait, this isn't the $64,000 Pyramid?

I'm only kind of kidding too. I'm not a fan of this kind of mentality, you can be patient in stocking the cupboards during a rebuild while learning how to win.
 

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I do hope Glencross get's paid in the offseason but the Flames won't miss him.

I'm happy Trelivining stuck to the greater plan and even more thankful the reactionary style of management entrenched by Sutter and Feaster is no more. There's always going to be some reason, some excuse to deviate from the rebuild; but if the Flames ever hope to become legitimate, perennial contenders, they can't get swept up in the emotions of a second year rebuilding team overachieving. Especially when they just lost their most critical and important player in Giordano for the foreseeable future.

Glencross was a good to great player in his time with the Flames. But he's been surpassed this year by other players in the system so it's time to move on. I think he'll do fine under Trotz and it remains to be seen what Treliving does with the extra picks he just got. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips the third for Chris Stewart tomorrow, which would be mistake of a kind, but should satisfy those who want to compete now.
 

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I do hope Glencross get's paid in the offseason but the Flames won't miss him.

I'm happy Trelivining stuck to the greater plan and even more thankful the reactionary style of management entrenched by Sutter and Feaster is no more. There's always going to be some reason, some excuse to deviate from the rebuild; but if the Flames ever hope to become legitimate, perennial contenders, they can't get swept up in the emotions of a second year rebuilding team overachieving. Especially when they just lost their most critical and important player in Giordano for the foreseeable future.

Glencross was a good to great player in his time with the Flames. But he's been surpassed this year by other players in the system so it's time to move on. I think he'll do fine under Trotz and it remains to be seen what Treliving does with the extra picks he just got. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips the third for Chris Stewart tomorrow, which would be mistake of a kind, but should satisfy those who want to compete now.
No one, I repeat no one should be satisfied at acquiring a lazy, selfish player like Stewart. I might want to compete now, but not by welcoming a player like that into the room. I'd rather have given Glencross away for free than being that piece of trash into our room.
 

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I do hope Glencross get's paid in the offseason but the Flames won't miss him.

I'm happy Trelivining stuck to the greater plan and even more thankful the reactionary style of management entrenched by Sutter and Feaster is no more. There's always going to be some reason, some excuse to deviate from the rebuild; but if the Flames ever hope to become legitimate, perennial contenders, they can't get swept up in the emotions of a second year rebuilding team overachieving. Especially when they just lost their most critical and important player in Giordano for the foreseeable future.

Glencross was a good to great player in his time with the Flames. But he's been surpassed this year by other players in the system so it's time to move on. I think he'll do fine under Trotz and it remains to be seen what Treliving does with the extra picks he just got. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he flips the third for Chris Stewart tomorrow, which would be mistake of a kind, but should satisfy those who want to compete now.

That's one thing I didn't take into consideration with regards to the urgency for this move, is the possibility Treliving wanted the extra picks ahead of the deadline for a bigger move of some kind. Plenty of attractive pieces to part with, but can't think of who else we'd be after; maybe ARZ is still in play with Gormley or Stone..? Yandle? lol
 

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That's one thing I didn't take into consideration with regards to the urgency for this move, is the possibility Treliving wanted the extra picks ahead of the deadline for a bigger move of some kind. Plenty of attractive pieces to part with, but can't think of who else we'd be after; maybe ARZ is still in play with Gormley or Stone..? Yandle? lol

Im not so secretly hoping we trade for Gormley. Yandle would be awesome too but I can't see how we would afford it.
 

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Things Craig MacTavish would say.
Things Oilers fans have been saying for years.
Things Kevin Lowe would say.

Wait, this isn't the $64,000 Pyramid?

I'm only kind of kidding too. I'm not a fan of this kind of mentality, you can be patient in stocking the cupboards during a rebuild while learning how to win.

Yeah because clearly I'm saying the team needs to be liquidated for picks. No, let's keep a guy unhappy with his minutes/utilization and publicly stating he will never take another discount. It's one thing to think it another to publicly state it.
 

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Something tells me we are done with trading. That, or I think we move a pick for Havlat or something. Pending UFA that would be of lesser value than Glencross.
 

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That's one thing I didn't take into consideration with regards to the urgency for this move, is the possibility Treliving wanted the extra picks ahead of the deadline for a bigger move of some kind. Plenty of attractive pieces to part with, but can't think of who else we'd be after; maybe ARZ is still in play with Gormley or Stone..? Yandle? lol

With them picking up Schlemko, I wonder if they still want another defensemen right now. If Treliving does make another move, I suspect it'll be for a forward. Also wouldn't be at all surprised if he did nothing and tomorrow he just said the price were too high and he wasn't going to jeopardize the rebuild by giving high picks/prospects away for rentals.

Something tells me we are done with trading. That, or I think we move a pick for Havlat or something.

Havlat would be much worse than Stewart, but much cheaper too. He's pretty much finished. Anything more than a 6th would be too much.

No one, I repeat no one should be satisfied at acquiring a lazy, selfish player like Stewart. I might want to compete now, but not by welcoming a player like that into the room. I'd rather have given Glencross away for free than being that piece of trash into our room.

Tell us how you really feel :sarcasm::laugh:

But there's a persistent smoke that just won't go away. Would be a mistake though, I agree.
 

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Treliving has done well to get a 2nd and 3rd for him.

I will always have a soft spot for Glenny, he was definitely one of my favourite Flames when he was playing like a bulldozer, which is why I have been so critical of him this season. Not the same Glencross I liked so much anymore, which is very unfortunate how it turned out for him just as the team was picking things up.

As for missing hole to fill in his spot, I have a good feeling Ferland replaces him as a better forechecker, with more speed and intensity, although maybe not the offensive production. When Byron gets back, I think he will also fill the role nicely.
 

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I think the flames will stand down now on trades until the draft.

Maybe though, they will be moving later picks for a vet or two now they have 5 picks in the top 90
 

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Let's be honest guys. Even later 1st round picks are gambles and often don't play in the NHL. 2nd and 3rd round picks are largely made up of guys who will fill minor league roster spots and bottom 6 NHL roster spots several years down the road. Locks on draft picks turning into NHL-calibre, top 6 players are usually in the top 20 of a draft.

I feel we've lost 2 of our best (Iginla and now Glencross) of the last 10 years for very little in return. Btw, what did Calgary get besides Klimchuck for Iginla?
 

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Happy to see him gone, especially for him wanting a massive increase and not happy with his playing time. This is a rebuild and the kids have gotten the team to where they are. Without Gio the team is going nowhere. Let the kids play and try and push into the playoffs and make smart moves with your assets.
 

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