Confirmed with Link: Curtis Glencross Traded to Washington for 2nd&3rd Round Picks

DCDM

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You guys continue to miss AF's point, the playoff push and potential playoffs good help the young guys on our core more in the long term then the picks will. I'm not sure how you can say which one is "worth" more but they are both valid arguments.

Then I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree.
 

RasmusAndersson

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I disagree, it sends the wrong message to the team

Completely disagree. Watching Glencross play this year, he has limited production and hasn't been a major factor at all. Didn't even deserve a roster spot imo... What wrong message does it send trading a very average, rental, aging top-9 LW...
 

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You guys continue to miss AF's point, the playoff push and potential playoffs good help the young guys on our core more in the long term then the picks will. I'm not sure how you can say which one is "worth" more but they are both valid arguments.

It's not like the rebuild is going to last forever. The youth will get that valuable playoff experience in a couple of years. Grabbing these picks does in fact help further the rebuild, the more picks the better the chance we find another gem past the 1st round. Plus, we have many prospects knocking on the door for the NHL spot. We could use those extra picks to add to our prospect cupboard.
 

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You guys continue to miss AF's point, the playoff push and potential playoffs good help the young guys on our core more in the long term then the picks will. I'm not sure how you can say which one is "worth" more but they are both valid arguments.
I don't think trading glencross says we aren't still trying to make the playoffs. He hasn't contributed a great amount to the success we've been having. This was just good asset management, knowing glencross was unhappy here, by our management group.

I do understand the argument he is trying to make. I just don't understand how you can make it when a team is in year 2 of a long term rebuild. The young guys are still getting the experience of a playoff push.
 

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Quite pleased with this. The immediate dividends will be someone hungrier and more motivated jumping into his spot. He's been quite lethargic recently.

Best of luck to him in Washington, though. When he's playing his game, he plays the right way.

I'd say recently (since the trade rumors) he has been anything but lethargic.
 

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I disagree, it sends the wrong message to the team

I see your point here AF, as well as your point about Playoff being more valuable than picks.

I do wonder though, was this a big distraction in the locker room? Knowing for a couple months that Glenny would be leaving? I think there is a net positive for the team now that the situation has been dealt with.
 

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If Glencross is the reason we don't make the playoffs, then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs. We were so successful at the beginning of the season because rookies like Jooris, Granlund, Baertschi and Ferland were competing for the open roster spots when Raymond and Colborne were down. And look, Jooris is a regular now because of that opportunity. I want prospects be given opportunity just like Josh did. This team needs more youth injection more than Glencross imo.
 

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I don't think trading glencross says we aren't still trying to make the playoffs. He hasn't contributed a great amount to the success we've been having. This was just good asset management, knowing glencross was unhappy here, by our management group.

I do understand the argument he is trying to make. I just don't understand how you can make it when I team is in year 2 of a long term rebuild. The young guys are still getting the experience of a playoff push.

Highest scoring forward not on our top line, our best screen on the pp, and 3rd in hits I think he has contributed alot more than most are giving him credit for not to mention he had an A. I think this is a clear message that without Gio we don't believe in this team (not something I disagree with) but do we want the guys to see it that way?
 

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and some of you dont like it? :laugh:
Wow, you said what I said and added a question mark and a laughing smiley, that's a quality reply. I've made why clear from the moment we started talking about the possibility of trading him for a 2nd +. The fact you think it's shocking my opinion hasn't changed is pretty hilarious. I've never been one to back down from what I believe is right.
 

Mobiandi

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It's still a rebuild. Competing for the playoffs is valuable experience for this team, for sure, but it would be extremely foolish for the team to lose sight of what's really important, and that's coming out of this rebuild ahead.

Besides, Glencross was the one who asked for the trade (allegedly). It still surprises me that you would be okay with that kind of situation in the dressing room

You've nailed it. I'm happy to even be contending for a playoff spot, and this season has been a learning experience for all the young guys. I still consider us outside shots to make it, so I'd rather we concentrate our efforts in developing our team rather than impulsively making additions for the sake of the playoffs.

This situation had carried on for far too long and I'm happy it's finally over.
 

Ace Rimmer

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Highest scoring forward not on our top line, our best screen on the pp, and 3rd in hits I think he has contributed alot more than most are giving him credit for not to mention he had an A. I think this is a clear message that without Gio we don't believe in this team (not something I disagree with) but do we want the guys to see it that way?

I also have this concern.
 

Tkachuk Norris

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People that are saying, we gave up on the playoffs, we are sending the wrong message, or simply we have no chance at making the playoffs are silly.

It's Glencross... He isn't that great and is replaceable. We still have just as much of a chance to make the playoffs, our young players aren't going to give up just because we got rid of one mediocre veteran.

This is a very deep draft. Tons of good defencemen available in thesecond and third round.
 

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If Glenny getting traded is the only move made, then we probably shouldn't (and wouldn't) have gone down this road in the first place. If we're going to now turn around and make a good hockey deal to strengthen our team, then I think this is great asset management. Treliving has repeatedly talked about wanting to reward the team for their hard-work, so I really don't see this as the only move we're going to make. And I also think we definitely will come out a better team than before the Glencross trade.
 

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I also have this concern.
I know it's how I feel. To me it's like saying, "hey we aren't good enough"

especially when just a few days ago Treliving was talking about how important it was to show the players of this team that they believed in them
 

Anglesmith

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I know it's how I feel. To me it's like saying, "hey we aren't good enough"

especially when just a few days ago Treliving was talking about how important it was to show the players of this team that they believed in them

Those things aren't mutually exclusive. They embarked upon this path (making it clear that Glenny was going to be traded) all while still talking about adding at the deadline. I think both of these things are part of management's plans. But I think this all hinges on the judgement (whether you agree or not) that Glencross is completely replaceable within our organization. Management has made a statement here that we have the players available to take Glencross's minutes and be just as effective.
 

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