Post-Game Talk: Curses Penguined Again

[Tommigun]

I feel like Duchene is going to cost an arm and a leg to get.

It’s Ottawa so they’d probably do Petan for Duchene+1st.

 

[Ducky10]

The comments from a few Jets players were pretty telling last night. "They're a fast team, they move the puck quickly from their back end and play fast",

"They support each other really well, lots of short quick passes, they play with speed".

Isn't that how we're supposed to be playing?

 

[HHel]

what would you suggest? they have had trouble scoring the past few games, but they have still been winning since the beg of Dec (3rd most wins in the NHL). I don't know if Maurice would make large changes.

Yes they have able to collect wins even the game hasn't been so pretty. That's sign of good team.

I think Pomo is forced to make small change if Ehlers is out. So either MattyP or Roslo to 2nd line would be nice. It changes that line dynamic little bit. I don't think or dream that Chef and Wheels be separated.

 

[ps241]

I agree with the over reaction but there are things that need to be sorted out - much of which is being discussed.
I hope it's a slump but it feels like it might be more than that - Especially considering this is impacting across our top 6.

Players have off games / stretches - but all of your best at the same time?

Sometimes that happens though. I don’t expect the scoring slump to last with Scheifele.

We could so easily be 0-7 for this last stretch. It sucks, big time. Time to shake up all the F lines? Too soon? They are not skating, not playing with any enthusiasm. They need a good swift kick in the ass.

Team is playing slow......the leaders need to figure it out. They won’t shake up the top line to start the Stars game but I doubt Maurice let’s them sleepwalk through another game. The fact Nik is out now naturally shakes up the top 6 anyways. I was hopping to see Matt P with Little but PMo most likely won’t start that way.

either way if they are dopey again they won’t win without luck.

 

[rkp]

have to wonder about the coaching laine is getting

 

[DRW204]

Yes they have able to collect wins even the game hasn't been so pretty. That's sign of good team.

I think Pomo is forced to make small change if Ehlers is out. So either MattyP or Roslo to 2nd line would be nice. It changes that line dynamic little bit. I don't think or dream that Chef and Wheels be separated.

Perreault has been underutilized this season imo. I think his 5v5 prowess would help Laine on that 2nd line with Little. Has Perreault-Little-Laine been a thing?

 

[Ducky10]

Yes teams go into slumps, even good ones.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

True, but it does seem like the last stint he had in the bottom 6 with Lowry and co got his game going and he went on that run in November where he was moving his feet and using his body.

I think one of the reasons that Laine works better with players like Lowry and Chef is that they are excellent at keeping posession of the puck and more seldom lose it on dump-ins, which is not a strength of Little. Laine and Little just don't fit well together. They both would probably play better away from each other. Connor - Little - Wheeler could be a real solid line, and Perreault - Chef - Laine makes a whole lotta sense skillwise too.

 

[John Agar]

Your analogy doesn't fit at all in Maurice's case. In hockey terms Maurice is more like a 25 year senior manager who you brought in when your company was at its lowest low. He then in turn helped build up the company as you hired several young skilled employees and asked him to successfully incorporate them into the business which he did even with some risk to himself. Then after several years your company reach just short of the pinnacle of ultimate success in your business. But after that started to sag and you were unsure why? Would you see this person as a cancer? Or would you go to them for ideas for what is starting to go wrong and how could you fix it so you could make another run at the ultimate success for your business?

Thanks for replying 'Bogo....

Maurice is only part of the Cancer if he doesn't act on it....

Go to them... ???

We will never really know the "room" but I would have done this repeatedly this year to this point if I were Maurice with the "trust" group....

Hard to say if this has gone on or not, but I wouldn't have stated my own experience if it wasn't relatable.... I have nothing to gain to bare my soul to the world...

My group wasn't Pro Hockey players, but they were high achievers and highly regarded in the community and as my competitor demonstrated was admired/revered...

Your paycheck and fame don't shield you from your humanity....

I have seen some Doctors, Nurses, MBA Administrators, Lawyers, and other professionals all lower themselves to the level of rabble when their base humanity gets the best of them....

Teams and their Coaches are no different...

 

[HHel]

Perreault has been underutilized this season imo. I think his 5v5 prowess would help Laine on that 2nd line with Little. Has Perreault-Little-Laine been a thing?

I think so too. I think they have been together for couple periods but nothing more. I remember watching one game (not remember witch one) and saw them together. I was happy to see something changing, but that lasted only one period.

 

[Daximus]

Looks like we are practicing with Laine on the LW and Rosie on the RW.

Laine - Little - Rosie

See how that one goes but it should give us a glimpse into how much chemistry Laine and Rosie could have if any.

 

[John Agar]

Sanitation Engineer?

Shit happens....

 

[Farmboy Patty]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

If you have ever been stuck on a line with a player that you just don't click with, you know how it starts to affect your play. I don't think either of them are too excited about being welded to each other by Maurice for 1 1/2 season.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

Looks like we are practicing with Laine on the LW and Rosie on the RW.

Laine - Little - Rosie

See how that one goes but it should give us a glimpse into how much chemistry Laine and Rosie could have if any.

It would be pretty sweet if they could raise each others game.

 

[Daximus]

It would be pretty sweet if they could raise each others game.

It should be a good indicator of how Rosie handles stiffer competition as well. If they play well enough in that formation we can then try Rosie at C and if him and Laine still click then having Connor or Perreault on that line when Ehlers comes back could bode well.

 

[Cypruss]

Getting to pay your players less because they are not as good as expected is not a positive. It is just a result of the negative.

I think the positive is that I still feel that they can become elite players in a few more years, but if we can lock them up long term after a 57 point season rather than after a 72 point season, that should save us a few hundred thousand each? The savings gives the Jets the ability to offeri a great penalty killer like Tanev 2 years at $1.65 million a year, which is more likely to be signed than 2 years at $1.2 million?

Like I said, trying to find a silver lining with the rough stretch - not indicating that Connor and Laine won't become what we think/hope they will be in a few more years.....

 

[Cypruss]

Yeah and that was so last month, the Jets record means squat, team needs a new coach and a rebuild!

That was last YEAR

 

[Maukkis]

Who needs to be taken out for Perreault to get a f***ing shot at top 6 minutes...

 

[Cypruss]

Your analogy doesn't fit at all in Maurice's case. In hockey terms Maurice is more like a 25 year senior manager who you brought in when your company was at its lowest low. He then in turn helped build up the company as you hired several young skilled employees and asked him to successfully incorporate them into the business which he did even with some risk to himself. Then after several years your company reach just short of the pinnacle of ultimate success in your business. But after that started to sag and you were unsure why? Would you see this person as a cancer? Or would you go to them for ideas for what is starting to go wrong and how could you fix it so you could make another run at the ultimate success for your business?

I know what you are saying here. My thought are - from the professional (financial institution) perspective, there is a management style that you hire when you need to turn the business (results) around. Make the needed changes and develop the young up and comers. It it often a different type of manager that takes a strong department and propels it into a growth and industry leading focus. If you can find a manger that can do both - then pay that man, because there are not many people suitable or capable on delivering on both very different objectives.

 

[Cypruss]

Sanitation Engineer?

Oh, sounds like new scout material

 

[Cypruss]

I feel like Duchene is going to cost an arm and a leg to get.

Petan has 2 of both! Make it happen

 

[Tommigun]

Who needs to be taken out for Perreault to get a ****ing shot at top 6 minutes...

Why is Roslovic getting a shot at the second line instead of Perreault?

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

Looks like we are practicing with Laine on the LW and Rosie on the RW.

Laine - Little - Rosie

See how that one goes but it should give us a glimpse into how much chemistry Laine and Rosie could have if any.

Laine has chemistry with no one.

The kid needs to show some desire to gain puck possession. There's simply no effort being made whatsoever. He's the prototype of the perimeter player that is the bane of many teams, albeit a damn fine one due to his shot. There's no excuse for his continued lack of development in every other area unless he's hurt. Has his knee fully recovered? I don't see any other reason why game after game, season after season he spends his shifts virtually standing still.

If he's got a clean bill of health get him reps on Lowrys line and keep him there until he begins displaying the attributes that is expected from those playing "Jets hockey." He's literally the only player on the team who coasts.

This summer convince him to stay in Canada and train with Roberts. Get Scheifele to hand him Oates' number and begin working on other aspects of his game.

Its great to have a player like Laine. He's an integral part of why our power play is the envy of the league, but it's long past the time where he should be allowed to continue his current effort 5x5. It's a poor example to everyone else who "plays the right way".

I don't care how many goals he scores, as it stands this isnt a player that deserves a $9 or $10 million a season contract extension.

 

[Duke749]

The comments from a few Jets players were pretty telling last night. "They're a fast team, they move the puck quickly from their back end and play fast",

"They support each other really well, lots of short quick passes, they play with speed".

Isn't that how we're supposed to be playing?

Because 2/3 of our back end can’t move the puck. It’s such an obvious hole. Idk why we went into the season with Chiarot as a regular when in todays game you have to be able to move the puck.

 

[JetsFan815]

Looks like we are practicing with Laine on the LW and Rosie on the RW.

Laine - Little - Rosie

See how that one goes but it should give us a glimpse into how much chemistry Laine and Rosie could have if any.

The line will be marginally worse than CLL line, the only player that can help Little and Laine together from sinking at 5 on 5 on the Jets is Perreault.

I fully expect that line to be disbanded by end of the 2nd period next game.