Post-Game Talk: Curses Penguined Again

[Daximus]

Agree with this and I'm not against a Scheif / Laine reunion - as a spark.
But I don't think it is something Maurice or Scheif want to do long term.

I agree. We need a better center for Laine than Bryan Little. Little is just not the type of player to help him out and it's been obvious since day 1 of them playing together.

 

[surixon]

Has he driven play well enough to take Laine to another level?
Highly doubtful regardless of how much you think Petan brings to the Jets.

They would also be playing weak comp which helps matters. My hope would be that it would wake Laine up and he would start driving a good chunk of the play himself.

What will likely happen is that Ehlers injury will result in shifting Perrault up which will have Copp move to the third line.

Conner Scheifele Wheeler
Perrault Little Laine
Copp Lowry Tanev

Then you are leaving a 4th line opening. Imo I think Roslovic is not a C so that leaves Petan coming in.

Lemieux Petan Roalovic

Edit:

Looks like they are moving Laine to the left side and moving Roslovic to the second line and pitting Appelton in at RW on the fourth line. I guess we will see how that goes.

 

[KB1971]

Jets forward skates hard into opposition's zone carrying the puck and stops halfway down the wall and turns and passes the puck back to one of our defenseman at the point , way too much . The forwards need to carry the puck to or around the net alot more , at the very least they have a chance of a penalty because the defenseman can't keep up and they get tripped or whatever . Passing it back to the point is good to do but not all the frigging time , the Jets are pretty predictable right now .

55 and 26 used to drive the net every now and then. Predictable is exactly what they are.

 

[Jets 31]

I agree. We need a better center for Laine than Bryan Little. Little is just not the type of player to help him out and it's been obvious since day 1 of them playing together.

Get Duchene from Ottawa , Scheif , Duchene , Little and Lowry would look pretty good down the middle . Even if Duchene is kind of a jerk .

 

[ffh]

That's all we need to turn it around. A soon to be 24 year old career pb player. The 4th line are the least of the teams worries now. Plugging in Appleton or petan doesn't move the needle at all

 

[Mud Turtle]

Re: Scheifele-Laine: if they were to be put together, what would change? Are we suddenly going to see a Laine that actually cares? How much will Scheifele be affected by a RW who plays entirely differently than his current one? Who would best balance out that line as the third wheel? Given the way our top 6 has performed, I'm not all that convinced that the issues would be solved in an instant.

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

 

[Jets 31]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

Geez i hope not , Laine has one of the best shots in all of hockey , he should have it in his head that it doesn't matter who i play with , i'm gonna score .

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

If he feels that entitled, then we need to trade him. Let someone else deal with that BS. 'If' dependent statement.

 

[Daximus]

Get Duchene from Ottawa , Scheif , Duchene , Little and Lowry would look pretty good down the middle . Even if Duchene is kind of a jerk .

I feel like Duchene is going to cost an arm and a leg to get.

 

[LowLefty]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

Time for him to feel less defeated -
He's supposed to be a pro in his 3rd year showcasing for a contract worth millions.
I really hope he doesn't feel this is a waste

 

[Daximus]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

I sure hope not. That is a really lazy and entitled mentality to have. You go out and give it your all every shift whether you are playing with a pylon or Wayne Gretzky. You're a professional hockey player getting paid millions of dollars to do the thing you love. Earn it.
Especially while the rest of us with no talent work our asses off to earn a middle class living and pay to watch these guys play. If you aren't giving it your all at 20 years old already that is pretty sad.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else but in this graph.

WPG 1819 Laine Replacements

Virtually everyone plays better away from Laine so far this year. He needs to start engaging more. It blows my mind that a 64' goalscorer is so timid on the ice. Use that size dude.

Good post. Matches the eye test that he sucks the life out of almost every shift when not on PP.

 

[DRW204]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

i really hope not. what a terrible and entitled attitude that is. Laine put up 18g in November playing with Little and wasn't terrible in his all-around game if i recall (compared to Oct) so it is not like he hasn't played at a torrid pace w/ Little and Connor

 

[Maukkis]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

Then I would kindly ask him to f*** off to Finland and to return whenever he has found a new compete level. There are others out there who have the hunger needed for the show.

 

[LowLefty]

Good post. Matches the eye test that he sucks the life out of almost every shift when not on PP.

Doesn't matter - someone else will find another stat that says the opposite.
I'm in line with you on the eye test though -

 

[Daximus]

i really hope not. what a terrible and entitled attitude that is. Laine put up 18g in November playing with Little and wasn't terrible in his all-around game if i recall (compared to Oct) so it is not like he hasn't played at a torrid pace w/ Little and Connor

The big boost came when Connor was put on that line. Added some new life to it. Right now every line is so predictable right down to our PP. Coaches will only ride it for so long before they make some sort of adjustment be it big or small. Having Buff, our best puck mover, out is no help.

 

[PaulPooley]

It wouldn’t surprise me that much if even the players themselves are questioning the line combos that Maurice stubbornly insists on sticking with. Bryan Little must wonder why he keeps getting sent over the boards tethered to Laine knowing deep down it’s not going to produce any positive results.

 

[DRW204]

The big boost came when Connor was put on that line. Added some new life to it. Right now every line is so predictable right down to our PP. Coaches will only ride it for so long before they make some sort of adjustment be it big or small. Having Buff, our best puck mover, out is no help.

This is similar to what happened with Stastny as well. Put up 12g 5a in 10gp when Pauly was first acquired, then 1g 1a in the next 10 to close out the regular season.

 

[Ducky10]

Maybe Laine has figured out a long time ago that he has no chemistry with Little and that in his head he feels that every shift is kind of a waste anyways, so his effort is less because he feels defeated?

Geez, that would be pathetic if true .

I doubt it is however .

 

[HHel]

This is similar to what happened with Stastny as well. Put up 12g 5a in 10gp when Pauly was first acquired, then 1g 1a in the next 10 to close out the regular season.

So one conclusion. Change the lineup when it's not working. Ehlers - Connor swap isn't enough. If we all can see it I don't understand why PoMo can't see it. I can't belive that he is so stupid to let it be and wait if everything suddenly starts working again.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Team didn't look great, but until the empty net goal they were trailing based off of two pinball goals and a scandalous degree of league error.

But everyone freak the **** out--it's what you're good at anyway.

(The angle that showed it 'in the net' was subject to parallax error and usable for pucks on the ice surface, but not pucks in the air. By this new standard, the Flames won the '04 cup. ****ing moron league doesn't know when to leave a can of worms alone. But hands up if you're at all surprised that this ****ing joke of a league repeatedly changes the rules in favour of 'Sid' and the Penguins, repeatedly...)

That was definitely in the net.

 

[Tommigun]

Honestly?

Right now I don’t think his utilization has anything to do with his play. IF you watch his play closely and know “nothing” about him, you’d wonder how in the heck the kid is in the big leagues! He’s floating around, waving his stick at guys, coughing up the puck left and right and is truly a one trick pony right now. (if only I could find a picture of a one trick pony)

I think he needs to have his own press conference and tell everyone how horrible he is...that usually turns his game around.

I’ll also add that the Million Dollar Minister must have mistakenly cursed Patrik rather than blessing him. The timing is close to how his play has dropped off.

Sorry for targetting the kid, he truly is a special player and is just going through some rough times right now, but I’m just not sure utilization is his problem.

Yeah utilization is not a problem. I also think he’s at least been trying after the Christmas break. He also plays awfully defensively as of late, probably because his game isn’t going atm. I think it’s the normal up and downs of a young player, ie lack of consistency, that’s ailing him. Consistency is something young players often struggle with and the NHL season is very long.

 

[DRW204]

So one conclusion. Change the lineup when it's not working. Ehlers - Connor swap isn't enough. If we all can see it I don't understand why PoMo can't see it. I can't belive that he is so stupid to let it be and wait if everything suddenly starts working again.

what would you suggest? they have had trouble scoring the past few games, but they have still been winning since the beg of Dec (3rd most wins in the NHL). I don't know if Maurice would make large changes.

 

[Tommigun]

That was definitely in the net.

But no angle showed it conclusively, ergo it should not have been ruled as a goal. A lot of pucks go in (as in "there’s no way that didn’t go in") but no camera angle shows it, so the call on the ice has to stand.

 

[Lowered Expectations]

Lol @ those who make wild guesses about what is going on inside Laine’s head. There is no single interview from him even hinting he to blame his linemates. He blames himself. And it would not be unheard of if the Buffalo hit affected-it was a brain damage You know. Too many great players have had to quit because of cocussions. It would be only human to be more careful. If Patty wants to make sure not to get concussed again and have a long career so be it. It is not Your brain getting scrambled there, it is his. Jets and Leafs fans seems to forget that Laine and Matthews are still Young. They both are getting lot of crap on their team’s hfboards. Both are on a kind of slump and boy it is noticeable here @hfboards.