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usernamezrhardtodo
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It's like when New England had their former defensive coaches running the offense....how did that work for Belichek?
I hear he is in the running for the new James Bond villain. Seems about perfect for him.
How? When Boucher was coaching Tampa, he ran the PP there and they had a great PP. same thing in Ottawa. Ottawa had a good PP with Boucher there.
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Problem is the players.
Every regular season the PP is very good at times and when we go stale the players wont allow change.
Mitch require it to run via him and we have no legit point shot. Just two muffins and teams pressure the points and cheat on Matthews
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PromisedLand
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At a reasonable cap hit and term. If not thanks for your serivices. Leafs gotta move on...
No way I want Bert a tthe cap hit he had last season on the leafs on a long term. Bert gotta take a pay cut if he wants to be a leaf and no full NTCs/NMCs. We are not running a fraekin' charity
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the issue is personnel
besides Nylander and Matthews there is no shooting threat on the Leafs PP. It becomes very predictable and easy to defend. Tavares is really slow and his puck recoveries mimic that, Marner is a scared petulant child who won't engage in board battles and has a soft muffin for a shot. Rielly''s love affair with shin pads with no slapper is well known.
Leafs' personnel on #1 unit is a freakin' JOKE as far as I am concerned. Too predictable and too easy to defend.
the tampa and ottawa PPs were good because they had shooters on the PP who would shoot instead of making micky mouse plays
Blaming it purely on the personnel isn’t correct either. I agree with what you said about needing more shooting threats, but our PP was less than like 5% for like the last two months we played this season/playoffs and it didn’t even seem like they were actually making basically any adjustments anywhere.
That bolded is nowhere close to a fact.
The fact they don’t make more meaningful changes is on the coaching staff, not the players. That said, the players need to find ways to be effective in whatever setup the coaches is preaching.
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they have no adjustments. Keefe/Boucher basically went back to having #1PP unit based on cap hits instead of on-ice execution.
Marner would continue to carry the puck and lose it offensive blue line; of make stupid ass passes which will get cleared. Matthews and Willy were defended hard so on easy way to shoot because the other 3 morons on the PP wouldn't shoot or make intelligent plays.
If you look at a long sample of the same idiots in the playoffs on the PP and how much of a failure they have been as a special teams unit against -> CBJ, Habs, Bolts x2, Panthers, Bruins (this year); I think there is enough evidence to suggest that it is more personnel than PP systems.
I don't think there is a coach out there who will fix Leafs PP with the same personnel on the #1 unit
It’s very clearly on both coaching and personnel. There are always adjustments that can be made. If the argument is that this coaching staff wasn’t capable of finding them, then they were as I’ve said a problem. They kept trotting our the same configurations and same strategies and hoping the issues would go away. That’s doing no one any favours. They didn’t even seem to be trying to fix it
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coaching staff has been a problem because they continue to bendover for the whims of the likes of marner and co.
Leafs PP was doing really well without tavares, marner and rielly for instance when they ran... (Rielly was suspended, Marner was injured, and tavares was relegated to PP#2)
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and then they broke it off when personnel came back. just goes on to show it is the personnel first and foremost and then coaching IMO
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I liked Matthews more on the PP when he was younger, played the left wing boards and had that toe drag shot, but I don't think he has that anymore. His wrists gave out and he had to stop. I still think he can be used more effectively than his stationary position along the right wing boards. Ship out Marner and bring in Stamkos with the $$$ to give us a blistering 1 timer from his office along the left wing boards.
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Boggles my mind why they wouldn't at least try to use Marner in the bumper position. Nylander and Matthews' on the half walls have great shots and one-timers. Middle of the ice allows the puck to flow through Marner, giving him more space to make the little plays he's good at.
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Add on top of those points that the PP routinely gets out worked when they have the man advantage. They say your PP has to work harder than the PK....I never saw that. I saw a team that expected the other team to just lay down for 2min because it was the Leafs turn to score.
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I honestly think they didn't know how to fix it. They didn't really try anything differently and a few years ago going into the playoffs the same thing happened and all we heard from Keefe is the chances were there but the puck "didn't drop for us". Maybe using basketball terms for hockey was a sign that they had no clue what to do....
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ummm... easy to answer IMO. Marner didn't want to play bumper because that means taking a beating in front of the net and if there is one thing marner is really good at it is weaseling out of anything that means "physical hockey"
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By far our best Powerplay configuration. Bertuzzi is better at the net front than John, Domi’s passing is just as capable as Mitch’s, and Liljegren has a better shot than Rielly (not that that’s a high bar).
Keefe of course was way too deferential to this teams highest paid guys. For all the talk of “de-emphasizing” the core four Treliving gave Keefe didn’t seem to get the memo. f***ing infuriating watching the same shit powerplay fail to enter the zone, watching Tavares handle the puck like a grenade, and Mitch making terrible passes.
I'm pretty sure they tried a number of different personnel on PP1 in the playoffs, especially with the injuries.
I didn't like the setup or the movements personally, but there were different bodies.
Sorry but this simply isn’t true. Completely speculative. There is a ZERO percent chance you know that information for certain.
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here is an article from 2021; read it and tell me if marner has changed his shit habits
KOSHAN: Marner's attention to shot development could pay off, especially on power play
Mitch Marner just wants to get his shot.
torontosun.com
here is marner video it is pretty obvious at least to me that he forced the coaching staff hand eventhough he is calling it a lie
here is an article that says marner was on bumper as a "try"
and guess how long it lasted?
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here is an article from 2021; read it and tell me if marner has changed his shit habits
KOSHAN: Marner's attention to shot development could pay off, especially on power play
Mitch Marner just wants to get his shot.
here is marner video it is pretty obvious at least to me that he forced the coaching staff hand eventhough he is calling it a lie
here is an article that says marner was on bumper as a "try"
and guess how long it lasted?
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Did you even read the article you attached?
He’s got a creative mind,” Marner said. “I think he’s willing to try new things and so is our whole power play. We’ll see what happens from there.”
- direct quote from the article you posted. The guys were more than willing to try it and do what was asked of them. There is nothing in what you shared that definitively proves your point of view that Marner was unwilling to try a different position on the PP.
As I stated before, zero proof, a ton of hearsay and 100% speculative
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