Friedman: Coyotes gauging the market on Chychrun

[Pinkfloyd]

To STL
Chychrun
Dzingel

To ARI
Scandella
Kostin
Neighbors
‘22 1st
‘23/‘24 1st (STL’s choice)

Give me a proposal where Chychrun is going to San Jose this offseason assuming a second 1st round pick with a Hertl rental. I'm interested to see what you're looking for.

 

[rt]

ok so what you want is the biggest return for a defenseman of the modern era…

Yes.

 

[cneely]

Bruins should be all over this. A McAvoy - Chychrun top pair for 10 years is drool worthy.

Issue is we don't have much in the way of assets. Lysell plus Beecher and a first? Doesn't seem like near enough, but I'm not sure what else to add.

 

[93gilmour93]

No. That’s got zero to do with it.

I just can’t see the Coyotes wanting a player making say 6-7 million with everything going on with them financially

 

[Seattlebjprice]

Did you miss the seth jones one that happened like 4 months ago?

Again chychrun is unique as there have not been players like him traded in the past.

You can't even seem to grasp that point.

every single time a player is traded it’s unique big boy.

And Seth Jones trade:

What of it?

I’d rather Peronuvich than Boqvist every day. And a 1st? Ooooh tons of value.

 

[rt]

I just can’t see the Coyotes wanting a player making say 6-7 million with everything going on with them financially

Finances have NOTHING to do with that. They don’t want a player like that coming back if it represents any amount of value other than negative. Because otherwise it makes ZERO sense for the rebuild. Now, if you’ve got a player like that you’d be willing to part with a 1st to be rid of, then that’s something to consider.

 

[Seattlebjprice]

Give me a proposal where Chychrun is going to San Jose this offseason assuming a second 1st round pick with a Hertl rental. I'm interested to see what you're looking for.

Why would a terrible team want to Hertl UFA years?

 

[rt]

every single time a player is traded it’s unique big boy.

And Seth Jones trade:

What of it?

I’d rather Peronuvich than Boqvist every day. And a 1st? Ooooh tons of value.

Seth Jones kinda sucks.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Nah. I’d rather have Neighbors than Perunovich. Even if Perunovich came with a 2nd, I’d take Neighbors.

That’s fair. I don’t think that should be much of an issue for the Blues. We seem to have depth in spades as well if Dzingel is someone that needed to be omitted. Brown has looked really good for us and to be honest there’s going to be a lot of debate and hard decisions to make on who is waived. Our AHL players as well have been playing really well for us in the absence of 4/6of our top 6 for the last 5-10 games.

I think the main issue in making a deal work between both sides will ultimately be how to make cap work for us

 

[rt]

Bruins should be all over this. A McAvoy - Chychrun top pair for 10 years is drool worthy.

Issue is we don't have much in the way of assets. Lysell plus Beecher and a first? Doesn't seem like near enough, but I'm not sure what else to add.

People say things like “X team doesn’t have the assets…” and I almost always disagree. I think this is one example where it’s actually true.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Why would a terrible team want to Hertl UFA years?

I'm not asking them to take Hertl. I'm asking him to assume that San Jose gets a 1st for Hertl as a rental at this deadline and to propose a trade where that asset is an option for Arizona to grab as part of a Chychrun trade.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Would be a HUGE add to the Leafs defense

As would be the case for any team. Why even mention the Leafs?

 

[rt]

That’s fair. I don’t think that should be much of an issue for the Blues. We seem to have depth in spades as well if Dzingel is someone that needed to be omitted. Brown has looked really good for us and to be honest there’s going to be a lot of debate and hard decisions to make on who is waived. Our AHL players as well have been playing really well for us in the absence of 4/6of our top 6 for the last 5-10 games.

I think the main issue in making a deal work between both sides will ultimately be how to make cap work for us

Feel free to ditch Dzingel, then.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Broberg + 2022 1st + 2023 1st + 2023 2nd + Kassian (cap) + Barrie (flip for additional assets)

for

Chychrun + Crouse

 

[sens13]

every single time a player is traded it’s unique big boy.

And Seth Jones trade:

What of it?

I’d rather Peronuvich than Boqvist every day. And a 1st? Ooooh tons of value.

Then why are you bothering to look at comps? You are contradicting yourself.

of course you would. And it wasn't just a 1st it was 12th overall. later firsts and picks close to the top 10 don't have the similar value.

Not to mention your missing the 1st they got next year too.

Yah they also gave up pick 32 and got pick 44 but there is not much difference between them

jones got top d prospect, 12th overall and 1st next year.

 

[rt]

Broberg + 2022 1st + 2023 1st + 2023 2nd + Kassian + Barrie (flip for assets)

for

Chychrun + Crouse

Remove Crouse. Probably still a polite no thanks.

 

[Seattlebjprice]

Then why are you bothering to look at comps? You are contradicting yourself.

of course you would. And it wasn't just a 1st it was 12th overall. later firsts and picks close to the top 10 don't have the similar value.

Not to mention your missing the 1st they got next year too.

Yah they also gave up pick 32 and got pick 44 but there is not much difference between them

jones got top d prospect, 12th overall and 1st next year.

Boqvist is NOT a top d prospect.

y’all fling shit against the wall and feel good about it whether it’s true or not.

he’s 15 min atoi and a plug.

maybe it gets better.

yawn

 

[Heldig]

To Yotes:
Bouchard
Holloway
2nd

To Oilers:
Chyc

Start with Broberg + Holloway + 1st + Savoie / Lavoie

 

[TFHockey]

Remove Crouse. Probably still a polite no thanks.

That's a big haul, man. Effectively three 1sts and a 2nd.

Barrie has value in the league, don't think he doesn't because some HF posters claim he doesn't.

 

[rt]

That's a big haul, man. Effectively three 1sts and a 2nd.

Barrie has value in the league, don't think he doesn't because some HF posters claim he doesn't.

I believe the value is in the neighborhood of 4 1sts.

 

[TFHockey]

Start with Broberg + Holloway + 1st + Savoie / Lavoie

No, Bouchard anchors our right side. No go.

Broberg is a LHD, so he is movable if the Oilers are getting a LHD.

Also, a 1st instead of Holloway is a good deal for Arizona, Holloway is hurt at the moment.

 

[sens13]

Boqvist is NOT a top d prospect.

y’all fling shit against the wall and feel good about it whether it’s true or not.

he’s 15 min atoi and a plug.

maybe it gets better.

yawn

lol he's 21 and had 16 points in 35 games last year.
The fact you think he's a plug shows you have no idea what your talking about

 

[AddyTheWrath]

That's a big haul, man. Effectively three 1sts and a 2nd.

Barrie has value in the league, don't think he doesn't because some HF posters claim he doesn't.

Basically boils down to -

Barrie + Broberg + 1st for Chychrun

1st for Crouse

Kassian + 2nd for nothing

 

[BleedBlue14]

every single time a player is traded it’s unique big boy.

And Seth Jones trade:

What of it?

I’d rather Peronuvich than Boqvist every day. And a 1st? Ooooh tons of value.

I think you’d be in the minority with this line of thinking. I have really high hopes for Perunovich. But Boqvist has more current nhl success as well as has a better pedigree.

 

[Rorschach]

The Kings have the assets...I'm still thinking about whether to make an offer or just to stand pat.