Confirmed with Link: Coyotes forfeit 2020 2nd round pick and a 2021 1st round pick for violating league’s combine testing

[Jakey53]

I just kind of assumed(and I know the trouble that comes with assuming) that they did more than that and the details were just never released. If that's all they truly did, the punishment could be called harsh, but the rules are there for a reason.

I'm sure there is a bit more to it than what we know, but the NHL had to do something to appease the other owners. I'm guessing, but the NHL may not have had grounds to fine the team so their other choice was draft picks. The team really has no choice but to accept the punishment. I'm sure they could appeal that decision but that would not be in anyone's best interest.

 

[ParisSaintGermain]

Hoping that the league will now make a ruling favouring the Coyotes in regards to Chayka-Jersey link. Let's say a first (Hall one) and a second for a sweet little whitewash.

 

[Foggy1097]

Everything now has to be geared for the summer of 2024. Do everything you can to build the best young team possible and make sure you have the cap room to offer Auston a max contract, and hope that he can be your white knight. If they’re smart, and they plan well, execute the moves they need to, and get a little lucky for once...the team might be able to be relevant again in the 2024-25 season. Nothing really to see here until then...unless your a sadist.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Jesus Christ.

I remember sitting there watching games in 2015 thinking that was the absolute bottom for this team. I guess I was wrong.

There’s absolutely no choice now but to rebuild. It needs to be torn down to recoup these lost picks.

All we can hope for is Shane Wright. In 2022. I feel more hopeless with this team than ever before.

 

[XX]

Everything now has to be geared for the summer of 2024. Do everything you can to build the best young team possible and make sure you have the cap room to offer Auston a max contract, and hope that he can be your white knight. If they’re smart, and they plan well, execute the moves they need to, and get a little lucky for once...the team might be able to be relevant again in the 2024-25 season. Nothing really to see here until then...unless your a sadist.

An incredible opportunity awaits the Coyotes.

They have been freed from the expectation of competing. It would be entirely understandable if they traded everyone. It is also, for my money, the most exciting choice and also the logical choice.

Lets see if they can come to the same obvious conclusion for once.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

I'm not really down with the blow everything down to the ground idea, either.

Earlier today we are talking about what GM is available and maybe even a new coach... couple trades as well. But then we get stripped of a 2nd and next year's 1st and suddenly everything must go? How does the punishment make the Yotes less competitive next season? Was anyone here planning on trading that 1st rounder?

I'm with lanky on this one... this next year the Yotes don't benefit from being awful so why would we want them to be? In fact... we have incentive to NOT let that pick be a lottery that gets forfeited. Just to save face.

My opinon? Don't trade players at a loss. Get the best returns possible and increase their values before selling any. Also, make the playoffs legitimately next year just to shove it in the rest of the league's face. Consequently, that will also increase the roster's value in trade. And yes... get the value from the FA's before they walk. That's always been important.

 

[Prarievarg]

Outrageous. It's us fans that will hurt the most from this, and we don't even know the details of what was done wrong.

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

Outrageous. It's us fans that will hurt the most from this, and we don't even know the details of what was done wrong.

Players, coaches, etc. will still get paid. Fans get to watch a crap team for at least the next 5 years.

 

[XX]

Goligoski, Demers, Stepan, Raanta, Hjalmarsson all walk next summer.

They need to be traded for value starting today. The Coyotes prospect pool is already pretty bare, so they need every stab at the draft imaginable.

OEL and Kuemper need to go for the same reason. They will never be more valuable than they are today.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

I can understand why there are those of you pinning this on Chayka, but c'mon, there's no way he was flying solo in this. Make him the fall guy all you want, especially since he's gone, but don't act like he was doing this on his own.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Goligoski, Demers, Stepan, Raanta, Hjalmarsson all walk next summer.

They need to be traded for value starting today. The Coyotes prospect pool is already pretty bare, so they need every stab at the draft imaginable.

OEL and Kuemper need to go for the same reason. They will never be more valuable than they are today.

OEL and Kuemper make sense, Kuemper moreso. But those others? Maybe Hjalmarsson you could get something decent for, but those others? No way. They aren't worth the paper their contracts are printed on.

 

[Foggy1097]

An incredible opportunity awaits the Coyotes.

They have been freed from the expectation of competing. It would be entirely understandable if they traded everyone. It is also, for my money, the most exciting choice and also the logical choice.

Lets see if they can come to the same obvious conclusion for once.

I agree. Let’s see if they can act with some competence for once....realize what’s in front of them, confront the obvious reality of what needs to be done, and then go do it to the best of their ability. That would at least be refreshing to see.

 

[tuxonpups]

I just kind of assumed(and I know the trouble that comes with assuming) that they did more than that and the details were just never released. If that's all they truly did, the punishment could be called harsh, but the rules are there for a reason.

Seems like a measured response to a dress code violation to me... wait until the league appointed GM is put in place and the OEL for pool party hijinx begin...

 

[Jamieh]

Everything now has to be geared for the summer of 2024. Do everything you can to build the best young team possible and make sure you have the cap room to offer Auston a max contract, and hope that he can be your white knight. If they’re smart, and they plan well, execute the moves they need to, and get a little lucky for once...the team might be able to be relevant again in the 2024-25 season. Nothing really to see here until then...unless your a sadist.

I have never thought Matthews liked Toronto. I have no trouble thinking he walks in 4 years. I have a really hard time believing the Coyotes will have roster in 4 years that gets him interested in any way.

 

[XX]

OEL and Kuemper make sense, Kuemper moreso. But those others? Maybe Hjalmarsson you could get something decent for, but those others? No way. They aren't worth the paper their contracts are printed on.

Demers is well thought of and his contract is reasonable. There would easily be takers. Goligoski and Stepan you can retain 50% on and many teams will want them. Raanta is elite when healthy and his cap hit isn't outrageous, nor does he have any term, so some team will take him.

It isn't dire at all if you let go of competing next year. It's actually very liberating.

 

[Jamieh]

Goligoski, Demers, Stepan, Raanta, Hjalmarsson all walk next summer.

They need to be traded for value starting today. The Coyotes prospect pool is already pretty bare, so they need every stab at the draft imaginable.

OEL and Kuemper need to go for the same reason. They will never be more valuable than they are today.

You still need a team and the Owner woukd still like the opportunity to not have losses in the 10's of millions.

 

[Foggy1097]

I have never thought Matthews liked Toronto. I have no trouble thinking he walks in 4 years. I have a really hard time believing the Coyotes will have roster in 4 years that gets him interested in any way.

If you’ve ever listened to him talk about Arizona then I think you could conceivably come to the conclusion that the roster won’t matter to him that much unless it is in complete and utter shambles. I think a big part of him wants to be the guy to bring Arizona hockey to the forefront and be the one leading the charge to put the team more in the spotlight.

 

[Jamieh]

Demers is well thought of and his contract is reasonable. There would easily be takers. Goligoski and Stepan you can retain 50% on and many teams will want them. Raanta is elite when healthy and his cap hit isn't outrageous, nor does he have any term, so some team will take him.

It isn't dire at all if you let go of competing next year. It's actually very liberating.

You sure are a glass half full guy, no wonder you had Chayka as top 5.

 

[TheLegend]

An incredible opportunity awaits the Coyotes.

They have been freed from the expectation of competing. It would be entirely understandable if they traded everyone. It is also, for my money, the most exciting choice and also the logical choice.

Lets see if they can come to the same obvious conclusion for once.

I agree with the logic here....... This is something they really should explore.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Demers is well thought of and his contract is reasonable. There would easily be takers. Goligoski and Stepan you can retain 50% on and many teams will want them. Raanta is elite when healthy and his cap hit isn't outrageous, nor does he have any term, so some team will take him.

It isn't dire at all if you let go of competing next year. It's actually very liberating.

Raanta is career 88-60 and won more than 20 games once. "Elite" is a pretty big stretch. Retaining 50% of Goligoski and Stepan makes sense to help get to the cap floor, though. That's a good idea. I still don't think you'd get much in return for either, though.

 

[Jamieh]

If you’ve ever listened to him talk about Arizona then I think you could conceivably come to the conclusion that the roster won’t matter to him that much unless it is in complete and utter shambles. I think a big part of him wants to be the guy to bring Arizona hockey to the forefront and be the one leading the charge to put the team more in the spotlight.

I dont picture any NHL Star signing up to be a bottom feeder intentionally during their Prime years, I could be wrong. Tge cupboards are pretty bare and it's unlikely any high end talent is coming.

 

[XX]

Raanta is career 88-60 and won more than 20 games once. "Elite" is a pretty big stretch. Retaining 50% of Goligoski and Stepan makes sense to help get to the cap floor, though. That's a good idea. I still don't think you'd get much in return for either, though.

You don't use W/L to evaluate goalies. And nobody wants 'much' in return, just a mid round pick. They need to aggressively take a ton of stabs at the draft to make up for the lack of quality.

The current young core will be completely starved of reinforcements if they do nothing.

 

[Jakey53]

I can understand why there are those of you pinning this on Chayka, but c'mon, there's no way he was flying solo in this. Make him the fall guy all you want, especially since he's gone, but don't act like he was doing this on his own.

I think Cohen was involved as well. I think Chayka asked Cohen for his legal advise on what he wanted to do. I would think that Sullivan may not have been initially involved, he was there watching the workouts or whatever they were looking at. Meruelo may have also known, but I kind of doubt it. This is why Cohen was fired I'm thinking. Who the hell knows, and I guess, who cares. It is what it is, time to move on.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Hope Chayka never gets employed again and lives off of 4 for 4's for the rest of his pathetic life. Limp d*** bitch.

He's a RAT.....I'm never eating at Wendy's again!

 

[Jakey53]

I dont picture any NHL Star signing up to be a bottom feeder intentionally during their Prime years, I could be wrong. Tge cupboards are pretty bare and it's unlikely any high end talent is coming.

With the cap not moving for the next couple of years might end up helping us next year.