Coyotes ASU temporary visiting team’s locker room and training area

[GoBoltz56]

The fact you’re quoting me knows the shit you pulled in your post. I won’t forget.

I thought you were dead? Glad to see you're still kickin bro

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Let them have 4 1st overall picks including a generational talent and then see where things are at.

What does that even mean?

 

[Heldig]

What does that even mean?

It is my counter to Oiler fans belittling the franchise as if they have been a model franchise the last 15 years or so...despite winning 4 lotteries (which caused a rule change so no other franchise will be able to benefit) and getting a generational player and having the city build them an arena.

 

[pbgoalie]

The Yotes' new unis have incidentally leaked as well!

Maybe they can skate down through the bleachers to the ice

 

[pbgoalie]

People losing their mind over a temporary solution.


Because HF doesn't hand out blue check marks?

The issue is, it’s a franchise that had a bad first rink, a bad relationship in their next “great thing) and are now playing in this mess.

It’s one thing for a new team like the sharks playing in the cow palace with their new place incoming.

This has been going on for a long time, and trouble I Phoenix never seems “temporary”

They kind of write the jokes against themselves

 

[Eco]

The issue is, it’s a franchise that had a bad first rink, a bad relationship in their next “great thing) and are now playing in this mess.

It’s one thing for a new team like the sharks playing in the cow palace with their new place incoming.

This has been going on for a long time, and trouble I Phoenix never seems “temporary”

They kind of write the jokes against themselves

But there has never been anything like the Coyotes before, and sure, the history is putrid in terms of management, but it's that the case for all teams with bad owners?

Looks at the A's in Baseball? Sure they have a stadium, but no fans and shit on the field.

We are trying, and as we try to finally get our own stadium, this temporary solution is our attempt and getting this going in the right direction.

 

[Dolemite]

Why don't you just write what you tweet in a post?

 

[Eco]

Yikes.

 

[Eco]

And let's remind everyone that Hartford played out of a mall, and the LIghtning played out of an airplane hangar.

 

[Ezekial]

"Electric atmosphere at intimate new arena"

Damn, this writer sold their soul to the devil.

 

[StreetHawk]

The NHL should've stepped in here and negotiated a deal with the Phoenix Suns arena (don't know what it's called now but I know it used to be America West Arena).

This is just ... I mean, look first world problems and all that, but it's embarrassing, lol.

Nothing regarding hockey in AZ has ever lined up timing wise.

Coangelo asks Ziegler in the late 80’s if the nhl would ever come to AZ. Ziegler tells him no chance. So the Suns arena is built basketball only and opens in 1992. Coyotes arrive from Winnipeg in 1996.

Potentially there was a shot of getting the land where a mall stood in the late 90’s around Scottsdale but the deal doesn’t happen.

Suns owner sarver finally sells his share of the Suns but not after the Suns arena is renovated for $250 mill. Not sure if someone could buy the majority of both teams or not but maybe that was a chance to have taken the city’s offer of blowing up the arena and starting from scratch at that location.

Just the way it has been in AZ.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

This is so cringy.

 

[Guardian17]

 

[Bowski]

Amazing!
I will be sure to tune in tonight for the opening Mullett "ceremony". Go Yotes!

 

[Dust]

It is my counter to Oiler fans belittling the franchise as if they have been a model franchise the last 15 years or so...despite winning 4 lotteries (which caused a rule change so no other franchise will be able to benefit) and getting a generational player and having the city build them an arena.

Maybe work on a better counter. Plenty of poorly run organizations in the NHL over the last 15 years, that still had great fan support. From a Hockey Ops, Arizona has probably been run better than a number of teams, but their fan support is still horrific.

 

[Roof Daddy]

It is my counter to Oiler fans belittling the franchise as if they have been a model franchise the last 15 years or so...despite winning 4 lotteries (which caused a rule change so no other franchise will be able to benefit) and getting a generational player and having the city build them an arena.

We didn’t win 4 lotteries, it was 3. We just won the most important one. But we also got bumped back in 2016 (which meant Pulju instead of Laine), and won the lottery in arguably the worst year possible to win it (2012). So I don’t feel guilty in the least that we got McDavid when the Sabres/Yotes needed him more.

And yes, the team, but more so management was a complete shit show throughout a decade long dumpster fire. But people still showed up to games and season tickets still had a waiting list. So let’s not act like these are the same situations. Arizona is clearly not a hockey city and it’s kind of a joke that Bettman will charge a $600 million expansion fee for a new team to enter the league, but defend this team from relocation.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

these pictures need that meme with Michael Pena telling Paul Rudd everything that went wrong while he was away in Ant-Man 2

 

[Eco]

We didn’t win 4 lotteries, it was 3. We just won the most important one. But we also got bumped back in 2016 (which meant Pulju instead of Laine), and won the lottery in arguably the worst year possible to win it (2012). So I don’t feel guilty in the least that we got McDavid when the Sabres/Yotes needed him more.

And yes, the team, but more so management was a complete shit show throughout a decade long dumpster fire. But people still showed up to games and season tickets still had a waiting list. So let’s not act like these are the same situations. Arizona is clearly not a hockey city and it’s kind of a joke that Bettman will charge a $600 million expansion fee for a new team to enter the league, but defend this team from relocation.

A quick reference check shows that we aren't the worst in terms of overall attendance or capacity (both are owned to Ottawa, Buffalo, and Florida over the past 5 years), and also shows that the Oilers are below the league average in both during the same time period.

So let's not pretend you lot are selling out every game, as the stats show that you guys average at between 85-90% each home game.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I thought you were dead? Glad to see you're still kickin bro

he went on a Fantastic Voyage

 

[Heldig]

We didn’t win 4 lotteries, it was 3.

Holy semantics. The Oilers drafted 1st overall 4 times in 6 years. You also drafted 3rd AND 4th overall within a couple season. The highest the Coyotes drafted in the period was 3rd overall (and they whiffed).

Not comparing fandom or even excusing the Coyotes sad history. While it is strong to say McDavid saved the franchise, he likely would have caused a massive uptake in fans in the desert.

 

[Space umpire]

A quick reference check shows that we aren't the worst in terms of overall attendance or capacity (both are owned to Ottawa, Buffalo, and Florida over the past 5 years), and also shows that the Oilers are below the league average in both during the same time period.

So let's not pretend you lot are selling out every game, as the stats show that you guys average at between 85-90% each home game.

Some folks love to hate the Yotes. Best part is when they are in a new place and outdrawing cities like Edmonton the last laugh will be yours.
For the record, I’m a transplanted Hawk fan living in central Florida. I had seasons tix for the Lightning when they played at both the fairgrounds (which also had temporary lockers rooms (FOR ALL GAMES) and the “thunder dome”. Lots of people poked fun at them. Thought they should move the team. If you remember ownership was the issue then too but all the high and mighty “up north” thought they should move out of the south. Hockey won’t work there.
How are they doing now?

 

[Roof Daddy]

A quick reference check shows that we aren't the worst in terms of overall attendance or capacity (both are owned to Ottawa, Buffalo, and Florida over the past 5 years), and also shows that the Oilers are below the league average in both during the same time period.

So let's not pretend you lot are selling out every game, as the stats show that you guys average at between 85-90% each home game.

The Oilers attendance was to capacity in 16-17; 17-18; 18-19. 18,347.

It dipped in 19-20 to 17,510, possibly due to this being the first renewal period on suites (3 year commitments) and a hefty increase on ticket prices despite on ice product still playing poorly.

20-21 is a write off.

21-22 dipped to 14,927, but partially a result of limited capacity during certain periods of COVID regulation. Also, for a while it was mandatory proof of double vax or negative PCR test to get in building, which pissed off a lot of people.

So I’m not seeing where the Oil are only 85-90% attendance in a 5 year period unless you’re factoring in capacity limitations that were provincial/federal mandates in 21-22. Otherwise we have one year where it was 95% full.

As for capacity/total attendance, the size of the arena is irrelevant if you’re giving seats away. What was the average ticket price for a Yotes game at Glendale?

 

[Eco]

The Oilers attendance was to capacity in 16-17; 17-18; 18-19. 18,347.

It dipped in 19-20 to 17,510, possibly due to this being the first renewal period on suites (3 year commitments) and a hefty increase on ticket prices despite on ice product still playing poorly.

20-21 is a write off.

21-22 dipped to 14,927, but partially a result of limited capacity during certain periods of COVID regulation. Also, for a while it was mandatory proof of double vax or negative PCR test to get in building, which pissed off a lot of people.

So I’m not seeing where the Oil are only 85-90% attendance in a 5 year period unless you’re factoring in capacity limitations that were provincial/federal mandates in 21-22. Otherwise we have one year where it was 95% full.

As for capacity/total attendance, the size of the arena is irrelevant if you’re giving seats away. What was the average ticket price for a Yotes game at Glendale?

Yeah - I looked and it does appear Edmonton is roughly the 3rd-4th more attended team in Canada.

I always look at capacity otherwise you might have inflated numbers and Montreal will always be the team at the top, when Vegas is actually there in terms of capacity.

Ticket prices when they were in Glendale were roughly $30 bucks to get into the stadium, which IS low, but also not absurd with some of the prices you'll see in the States for hockey.

My only point is, why bash on a team that is TRYING to right the ship? What the hell do you want us to do? We are trying, we are frustrated but we are trying.

The NHL is better if the Yotes get their own arena and get back on track, no doubt about it, so why belittle us?

 

[StreetHawk]

Yeah - I looked and it does appear Edmonton is roughly the 3rd-4th more attended team in Canada.

I always look at capacity otherwise you might have inflated numbers and Montreal will always be the team at the top, when Vegas is actually there in terms of capacity.

Ticket prices when they were in Glendale were roughly $30 bucks to get into the stadium, which IS low, but also not absurd with some of the prices you'll see in the States for hockey.

My only point is, why bash on a team that is TRYING to right the ship? What the hell do you want us to do? We are trying, we are frustrated but we are trying.

The NHL is better if the Yotes get their own arena and get back on track, no doubt about it, so why belittle us?

It is always something with AZ. Either blame owners, blame the city of Glendale, NHL for approving those owners, whatever…. It’s just tiring that after 26 years in AZ we’ve had all but what from like 2001 when they announced the move to Glendale up until like 2008/2009 when Moyes went bankrupt without the arena being an issue? And that’s included a move to a new 18k seat arena.

When they arrived the Suns arena was only good as a temporary solution for A few years.
When Dal, Col, Car got their relocated and got new arenas no issues regarding the arena since. Also rhe 4 expansion teams after AZ arrived. No arena issue. Just an ownership one in Atlanta.

 

[Eco]

It is always something with AZ. Either blame owners, blame the city of Glendale, NHL for approving those owners, whatever…. It’s just tiring that after 26 years in AZ we’ve had all but what from like 2001 when they announced the move to Glendale up until like 2008/2009 when Moyes went bankrupt without the arena being an issue? And that’s included a move to a new 18k seat arena.

When they arrived the Suns arena was only good as a temporary solution for A few years.
When Dal, Col, Car got their relocated and got new arenas no issues regarding the arena since. Also rhe 4 expansion teams after AZ arrived. No arena issue. Just an ownership one in Atlanta.

So how does it effect you?

Why not support them trying instead of talking about all the times they have failed.

Again, the NHL is better if all teams are settled, and hockey is Arizona, so I don't understand why all the hatred towards them...