Coyotes 2021 Roster Discussion

[rt]

I thought of Fischer too. However, a 10 day (I think) quarantine when he arrives in Canada. That means he could miss 6 games post trade.

Ummm...isn’t Roslovic also missing games? Lol. - I guess for the “inconvenience” the Coyotes add our 2nd and Jets are their 3rd?

 

[Heldig]

Ummm...isn’t Roslovic also missing games? Lol. - I guess for the “inconvenience” the Coyotes add our 2nd and Jets are their 3rd?

But Roslovic is in the USA. Presumably he could join the Coyotes right away. Whoever gets traded to Winnipeg has to go in quarantine in Canada. Unless you mean since Roslovic would also have to quarantine if the Jets signed him.

 

[rt]

But Roslovic is in the USA. Presumably he could join the Coyotes right away. Whoever gets traded to Winnipeg has to go in quarantine in Canada. Unless you mean since Roslovic would also have to quarantine if the Jets signed him.

I meant he’s not signed and not playing for them and if he were then he’d be quarantined. So it’s a non-factor, in my mind. I’m probably missing something, though.

 

[Jakey53]

Yup I've been thinking this too. When Chayka was an assistant, or even when Tippett was his boss he had to compromise on the roster. I remember Tippett liking analytics but still valued the eye test. It was a good balance. Not advocating for Tippett sticking around, but the idea of Chayka having to compromise was much better then what we ended up with.

He was in over his head, got the reins to an entire team way too soon. He thought he was the smartest person in the league. We had no balance and even Nash politely called our 2019/20 team soft.

After last night I'm also wondering how Tocchet will do with a much more balanced roster. I don't like him, but if we play every game like we did the 2nd and 3rd last night it will be hard to complain about him.

I think I advocated from day 1 that we needed a "hockey guy" above Chayka to offer advise and to keep him in line because of his lack of experience.

 

[Heldig]

I meant he’s not signed and not playing for them and if he were then he’d be quarantined. So it’s a non-factor, in my mind. I’m probably missing something, though.

Nah, you are probably right. If the Jets don't give up a roster player then i guess a quarantine does not matter much. Maybe only salary though maybe that is covered thru insurance.

Let's talk value. Is Fischer good enough value for Roslovic? Roslovic upside is way higher. Like Fischer his on ice performance is less than the sum of its parts.

 

[rt]

Nah, you are probably right. If the Jets don't give up a roster player then i guess a quarantine does not matter much. Maybe only salary though maybe that is covered thru insurance.

Let's talk value. Is Fischer good enough value for Roslovic? Roslovic upside is way higher. Like Fischer his on ice performance is less than the sum of its parts.

I don’t think Fischer is enough. How about we add our 2nd and they add their 3rd? Does the 40ish spot move up tempt the Jets at all? Maybe we also add our 6th, so they actually get a bonus pick, too?

 

[Schemp]

Thinking about a Raanta for Adam Larsson trade, but only if we can move Demers in a separate trade.

 

[Mosby]

To think of all the goalies who were available this summer and the Oilers came back with the same two guys.

 

[_Del_]

I don't think Koskinen is that bad. The decision to bring back Smith instead of a real 1B is mind boggling, though.

Even more inane was thinking both Tyler Ennis and Turris were what they needed to fill out the roster. Glad they didn't get a Larsson and Pitlick instead. They'd be scary.

 

[RemoAZ]

I don't think Koskinen is that bad. The decision to bring back Smith instead of a real 1B is mind boggling, though.

Even more inane was thinking both Tyler Ennis and Turris were what they needed to fill out the roster. Glad they didn't get a Larsson and Pitlick instead. They'd be scary.

Tippett + Turris makes no sense to me at all. How the hell did they even get him to sign off on it?

 

[technoviking]

Tippett + Turris makes no sense to me at all. How the hell did they even get him to sign off on it?

Hahaha I thought the same thing when they got Turris

 

[_Del_]

Oiler game is ugly. Both Turris and Ennis are pointless and -2. You have some top end talent. You can ice two lines that don't produce offense if they eat time. You aren't the Coyotes who had to play Turris and Ennis style one-dimensional players in hopes of additional goals. They both look slow, small, and weak on the puck. It's hard to believe this was Tipp's idea.

 

[Mosby]

Another first overall should fix it.

 

[Heldig]

Oiler game is ugly. Both Turris and Ennis are pointless and -2. You have some top end talent. You can ice two lines that don't produce offense if they eat time. You aren't the Coyotes who had to play Turris and Ennis style one-dimensional players in hopes of additional goals. They both look slow, small, and weak on the puck. It's hard to believe this was Tipp's idea.

Nothing can be wrong when Josh Archibald is the 1st line RW.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Oiler game is ugly. Both Turris and Ennis are pointless and -2. You have some top end talent. You can ice two lines that don't produce offense if they eat time. You aren't the Coyotes who had to play Turris and Ennis style one-dimensional players in hopes of additional goals. They both look slow, small, and weak on the puck. It's hard to believe this was Tipp's idea.

That game was brutal to watch. Moved over to CBJ/NSH halfway through the 3rd. Nurse seemed like he only cared about the big hits and the only bright spots on that team seemed to be their star centers. Edmonton looked bad but Montreals transition game was on point.

 

[Prarievarg]

Thinking about a Raanta for Adam Larsson trade, but only if we can move Demers in a separate trade.

We're serious about bringing in all the Larssons?

 

[lanky]

We're serious about bringing in all the Larssons?

I kinda hope we wait for the off-season, but yeah, let's get em all.

 

[Prarievarg]

Yeah I think it's a huge advantage having two competent goalies in Kuemps and Raanta. Particularly this season.

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

I think they showed a stat in-game where Kuemper and Raanta were #1 and #2 in save pct since Oct 2017.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I think they showed a stat in-game where Kuemper and Raanta were #1 and #2 in save pct since Oct 2017.

Raanta hasn't played nearly as many games as some of the top talents, but it is crazy that both of these guys are on the same team. It's a great luxury, but I hope they both play well, stay healthy, and we trade Raanta for a top-line scoring threat.

 

[hbk]

What? U mean we shouldn’t trade Raanta for a 5th or 6th round pick? Shocking!!!!!!

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I think I advocated from day 1 that we needed a "hockey guy" above Chayka to offer advise and to keep him in line because of his lack of experience.

You did, don’t wear out your arm!

 

[Heldig]

That game was brutal to watch. Moved over to CBJ/NSH halfway through the 3rd. Nurse seemed like he only cared about the big hits and the only bright spots on that team seemed to be their star centers. Edmonton looked bad but Montreals transition game was on point.

Look at their forward group as well. 2 franchise superstar level centres, a good 2nd line guy in Nugent Hopkins, a couple decent wingers and then meh. Without two of the best forwards in the world their forward group is among the worst in the league.

 

[StevenF1919]

Thinking about a Raanta for Adam Larsson trade, but only if we can move Demers in a separate trade.

Adam Larsson is one of the worst dmen in the NHL. Absolutely terrible. I wouldn't take him for free.

 

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Have to hope Capo and Soderstrom can step up with OEL out and Goose looking like a geriatric 40yo. Trial by fire.