Coyotes 2021 Roster Discussion
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Will this roster be able to score a goal with the goalie pulled at the end of the game or will the 6 on 5 futility reign supreme?
Vinny Boombatz
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Sure wish we could get Logan Brown.
Waiver exempt ain't gonna last forever and will they protect him from the Kraken? He just seems to be a good fit.
Waiver exempt ain't gonna last forever and will they protect him from the Kraken? He just seems to be a good fit.
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Does Ottawa see Erik Brannstrom as a downgrade on Soderstrom and by how much? Could it be worth their while to use Brown as leverage to upgrade a prospect?
Have to think Ottawa has enough draft picks, prospects and young roster players.. Arizona doesn't have the players in their prime to offer that make sense but due to Ottawa's depth in those areas they might look to upgrade.. Chabot is getting their main PP time so that takes away from something Brannstrom offers... Personally id CONSIDER an idea of
Brannstrom
Brown
for
Soderstrom
and maybe a decent throw in like Burke/Bunting/Steenbergen
Not sure if Ottawa would consider it but i don't think Arizona has many other reasonable ways to achieve getting Brown in the situation they are in asset wise unless Ottawa is looking to just get something half decent for him at this point (which i'd doubt). I do like the idea of Brown being a 6'6" third line center with offensive potential on the Yotes.
Have to think Ottawa has enough draft picks, prospects and young roster players.. Arizona doesn't have the players in their prime to offer that make sense but due to Ottawa's depth in those areas they might look to upgrade.. Chabot is getting their main PP time so that takes away from something Brannstrom offers... Personally id CONSIDER an idea of
Brannstrom
Brown
for
Soderstrom
and maybe a decent throw in like Burke/Bunting/Steenbergen
Not sure if Ottawa would consider it but i don't think Arizona has many other reasonable ways to achieve getting Brown in the situation they are in asset wise unless Ottawa is looking to just get something half decent for him at this point (which i'd doubt). I do like the idea of Brown being a 6'6" third line center with offensive potential on the Yotes.
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tucknroll
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While I'm Bored... Does Hayton, Crouse and a 2nd get Columbus to at least listen? Meets the 2 firsts and a second requirements that most teams look for. Both players are still very young and show lots of promise... Crouse is already a roster player for sure that every coach in the league would love and likely has more offensive potential being away from Tocchet. Hayton is a very promising center prospect that Arizona hope turns into a PLD and a second from a team that likely needs a year or two to compete again.
Since this team needs a retooling pretty badly and likely isn't competing for a couple years I'd look into some other bigger moves
I'm not too against OEL to Vancouver for a 1st, Virtanen (Crouse replacement if needed), Kole Lind and Brandon Sutter
If its true Yandle will never play for Florida again then id try and take them for a second and a prospect in a Kessel swap because its not worth the contract term if you don't... as Kessel likely also starts producing again on that Florida team. While Yandle will still be the giveaway/powerplay king on this team (but similar play style mentor for Brannstrom going back to my last proposal)
Kessel, Fischer for Yandle, Saarela and a 2nd would be what id want minimum
and now my lines look something like (might need to play switches depending on face-off quality since Dvorak is the only reliable one in my centers),
Brassard-PLD-schmaltz
Keller- Dvorak- Garland
Larsson-Brown-Virtanen
Caggiula- Saarela- Pitlick
Sutter
Chychrun-Demers
Gologoski- Oesterle
Yandle-Hjalmarsson
Brannstrom/ Lyubushkin
During the season move Raanta for a pick and a B prospect to whatever team that needs a goalie and is competing, also TRY moving Gologoski, Demers and maybe Hjalmarsson (if he wants to) ...After the season of retooling look for a good coach to replace Tocchet, Resign Garland (lots of cap space now) and try to add a couple defenseman
Team also has a first and at least 2 second round picks now too for the draft
Don't worry though, my dumb capfriendly fun is over (like i said, i was bored haha). Also sorry i'm not proof-reading for grammar, just letting it blend in with the bad ideas. Good night fellas
Since this team needs a retooling pretty badly and likely isn't competing for a couple years I'd look into some other bigger moves
I'm not too against OEL to Vancouver for a 1st, Virtanen (Crouse replacement if needed), Kole Lind and Brandon Sutter
If its true Yandle will never play for Florida again then id try and take them for a second and a prospect in a Kessel swap because its not worth the contract term if you don't... as Kessel likely also starts producing again on that Florida team. While Yandle will still be the giveaway/powerplay king on this team (but similar play style mentor for Brannstrom going back to my last proposal)
Kessel, Fischer for Yandle, Saarela and a 2nd would be what id want minimum
and now my lines look something like (might need to play switches depending on face-off quality since Dvorak is the only reliable one in my centers),
Brassard-PLD-schmaltz
Keller- Dvorak- Garland
Larsson-Brown-Virtanen
Caggiula- Saarela- Pitlick
Sutter
Chychrun-Demers
Gologoski- Oesterle
Yandle-Hjalmarsson
Brannstrom/ Lyubushkin
During the season move Raanta for a pick and a B prospect to whatever team that needs a goalie and is competing, also TRY moving Gologoski, Demers and maybe Hjalmarsson (if he wants to) ...After the season of retooling look for a good coach to replace Tocchet, Resign Garland (lots of cap space now) and try to add a couple defenseman
Team also has a first and at least 2 second round picks now too for the draft
Don't worry though, my dumb capfriendly fun is over (like i said, i was bored haha). Also sorry i'm not proof-reading for grammar, just letting it blend in with the bad ideas. Good night fellas
Seriously.
CBJ fandom must be almost as depressing as Coyotes fandom.
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tucknroll
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Both draft day trades... teams are more likely to trade a player for a pick when they know someone they want is on the board still... Brown MIGHT be available at next years draft... and I'm not saying they wouldn't potentially do the trade for a second rounder, but since they already have 2 picks next draft and a TON of prospects I personally would want to upgrade players at this point if I were them... Which is why i'd be trying to get PLD if i was Ottawa... I also don't think the Yotes should be trading any picks after having almost none last draft
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I feel safe to mention it now, since nothing happened, but I think we had something lined up this week. No idea what it was 
So maybe something is still in the hopper.
We've made some good pickups. Love Cags. He's all heart.Hope he's healthy. Well worth the chance at the contract. If he isn't healthy, the contract doesn't hurt us. Worth the roll of the dice.
Brassard might be done. No idea. He might be the anti-Stepan: shows up everyday, but doesn't make much difference. But we'd be stupid not to try him at center now that Step's gone and see what we've got. Still a slight chance that this works out extremely well.
I feel like Soderberg would have been worth bringing back at his contract, too, but ... I think there's a good chance Gauthier actually gets regular minutes this year because we're so thin at center. Low event guy, good on faceoffs. Not mean, but at least won't grt pummeled on the boards and constantly knocked around and off the puck.
Even if the Brassard experiment is a bust, I'd rather see Dvo-Hayton-Larsson-Gauthier down the middle than see Schmaltz take a single shift at center tomorrow/ever.
So maybe something is still in the hopper.We've made some good pickups. Love Cags. He's all heart.Hope he's healthy. Well worth the chance at the contract. If he isn't healthy, the contract doesn't hurt us. Worth the roll of the dice.
Brassard might be done. No idea. He might be the anti-Stepan: shows up everyday, but doesn't make much difference. But we'd be stupid not to try him at center now that Step's gone and see what we've got. Still a slight chance that this works out extremely well.
I feel like Soderberg would have been worth bringing back at his contract, too, but ... I think there's a good chance Gauthier actually gets regular minutes this year because we're so thin at center. Low event guy, good on faceoffs. Not mean, but at least won't grt pummeled on the boards and constantly knocked around and off the puck.
Even if the Brassard experiment is a bust, I'd rather see Dvo-Hayton-Larsson-Gauthier down the middle than see Schmaltz take a single shift at center tomorrow/ever.
The likes of Burke, Pederson and Bunting must be disappointed to miss out but there was only one spot after Chaput took one and Hunt/Gauthier are BA signings taking two more.
Surprised to see Ness sent down, he was favored over Capobianco and Gross last year.
Wonder how much rotation we'll see in the taxi squad once the season starts and the AHL season starts. Soderstrom should head to the AHL once fit and Lyubushkin comes over. If Jenik starts well he could get called up. But the point of a taxi squad is to reduce these movements so we may not see it.
Maybe, but if I'm trading a 1C, I want a proven player or players back. If the trade is expanded, then there may be picks allowed. My opinion of course.
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Sure absolutely. I guess it really depends on where CBJ's GM thinks the team is at. Personally I think if they lose PLD they definitely take a step back and would want at least a 1st and a roster player to fill in for PLD to remain competitive.
I feel safe to mention it now, since nothing happened, but I think we had something lined up this week. No idea what it was
We've made some good pickups. Love Cags. He's all heart.Hope he's healthy. Well worth the chance at the contract. If he isn't healthy, the contract doesn't hurt us. Worth the roll of the dice.
Brassard might be done. No idea. He might be the anti-Stepan: shows up everyday, but doesn't make much difference. But we'd be stupid not to try him at center now that Step's gone and see what we've got. Still a slight chance that this works out extremely well.
I feel like Soderberg would have been worth bringing back at his contract, too, but ... I think there's a good chance Gauthier actually gets regular minutes this year because we're so thin at center. Low event guy, good on faceoffs. Not mean, but at least won't grt pummeled on the boards and constantly knocked around and off the puck.
Even if the Brassard experiment is a bust, I'd rather see Dvo-Hayton-Larsson-Gauthier down the middle than see Schmaltz take a single shift at center tomorrow/ever.
I have no idea why the Yotes think Schmaltz is a C, especially with the same HC. He was tried there in Chicago and also here, with the same results. I would bet my bottom dollar Schmaltz won't be a C for long.
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I think Schmaltz should be a center. Have you seen him carry the puck through the neutral zone and into the offensive zone? He should be driving the play from the middle. He was born for it. I think the problem has been coaching, first and foremost, and then also his unwillingness to get his hands dirty and play hard enough. His talent says center. His work rate doesn’t support it. He cuts too many corners out there and is infuriatingly prone to floating.I have no idea why the Yotes think Schmaltz is a C, especially with the same HC. He was tried there in Chicago and also here, with the same results. I would bet my bottom dollar Schmaltz won't be a C for long.
He doesn’t have to be the world’s best defensive center. He doesn’t even have to be particularly good. He just needs to get some f***en giddyup and get back on D and stick check to create some turn overs. He’s got the wheels. I’ve seen him do this intermittently. He’s capable of doing it well. He just doesn’t do it consistently.
I thought Soderstrom was a lock for the team this season? Has he regressed? He seemed to be a highly touted blue chipper ready to contribute offensively. His showing at the WJC last year was awesome. Thanks in advance.
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No I definitely did not consider Soderstrom a lock to make the roster this year. Next year the door will be wide open for him to secure a spot as almost the entire D core will be moving to free agency.
Vinny Boombatz
formerly ctwin22
I think he'll get in 20 games this year I think. He'll start out in the AHL, but I think he will be up soon enough. He looked great in the world juniors, was selected as 1 of the top 3 players on his team, and he was tied for 3rd in Dman scoring with Bowen Byram with 5pts. Niemela had 8pts and York had 6pts.
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