Proposal: Could a McDavid Lindros type of trade help the Oilers?

[nateylove100]

To Montreal: Lucic + McDavid
To Edmonton: Drouin + Tatar + Kotkaniemi + Poehling + Brook + 1st Rounder + Alzner (25% retained)

 

[easton117]

Just don’t think Edmonton fans would ever get back something that would make them satisfied trading McDavid. The cap alone makes it near impossible.

I think you’d get another star player, a guy on the cusp that hasn’t signed his second deal yet and a pick or two.

Boston could do Pastrnak, McAvoy and picks.

Probably doesn’t move the needle in Edmonton. Probably irritates some Bruins fans that they thought about moving even those two guys.

Chiarelli calls Neely a big fat meanie.Neely hotboxes Peters office on the way out. Sweeney goes back to his coffin. Deal falls apart.

 

[brock0791]

Rantonen + Makar + Jack Hughes?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Because of the scope of this hypothetical trade, it'd probably be a 3-way trade. No single team in the cap era could/should/would gut their team for 1 player, regardless of how good he is. Also for EDM to get close to fair value 3 teams would likely have to be involved.

 

[drw02]

Larkin + Zadina + 2019 1st (likely top 5) + 2020 1st

Given the current state of the Wings, I dunno if it'd even be smart for the them to go that route, probably just become Oilers of the east with the best player in the league with little to no depth around him.

 

[Drury_Sakic]

There is absolutely no chance Colorado pulls McDavid without giving up at least one of Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen, come on now. Kerfoot+Zadorov+Makar+spare parts only gets you laughed at.

I never said it would take those 3 plus spare parts.. Helps if you read and can comprehend rather than just laugh like a fool. My whole point was that a deal involving Colorado (since Lando, Mac, and Rant are a trio that will not be broken anytime soon) would have to involve most of its prospect pool and what is to come from Ottawa and the draft.

Jack Hughes is not exactly spare parts. Nor are any of the other top 5 prospects coming up in the 2019 draft or the Avs 2019 pick. Plus Makar is going to be a star and in the NHL as soon as the college season is over.

If Edmonton was offered Ottawas sure to be top 3 pick, Colorados 2019 1st, Makar, Kaut, Compher/Jost, and Wilson, they at least think about it.... and as my whole point was of my post.... If Colorado did it, they would be in cap hell without cheap talent in the pipe....Though it would be one hell of a ride for the next season or two or three.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

If you recall, Lindros was one of the best players in the league, and he got traded for Steve Duchesne, Peter Forsberg, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, two draft picks, and $15 million. Colorado soon won the cup after that trade.
What would be an equivalent trade for McDavid that would be tempting for both the Oilers and the team acquiring him?

No slag on McDavid but the Lindros trade was a huge win for Quebec. You can make the argument that Peter Forsberg alone was as good or better than Lindros. The equivalent today would be another high end NHLer plus 7 other pieces including a top 6 winger, starting goalie and two firsts is massive overkill.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I never said it would take those 3 plus spare parts.. Helps if you read and can comprehend rather than just laugh like a fool. My whole point was that a deal involving Colorado (since Lando, Mac, and Rant are a trio that will not be broken anytime soon) would have to involve most of its prospect pool and what is to come from Ottawa and the draft.

Jack Hughes is not exactly spare parts. Nor are any of the other top 5 prospects coming up in the 2019 draft or the Avs 2019 pick. Plus Makar is going to be a star and in the NHL as soon as the college season is over.

If Edmonton was offered Ottawas sure to be top 3 pick, Colorados 2019 1st, Makar, Kaut, Compher/Jost, and Wilson, they at least think about it.... and as my whole point was of my post.... If Colorado did it, they would be in cap hell without cheap talent in the pipe....Though it would be one hell of a ride for the next season or two or three.

They don’t think about it. Not even for a minute. Which is why I laughed at you and continue to laugh at you. Roll of the dice futures don’t even come close to fetching you McDavid.

When your McDavid offer has a medicore 2nd liner as the best current player, really consider not posting it.

I wouldn’t trade McDavid to you if you guaranteed me the #1 overall pick for the next three drafts. But hey, at least Colin f***in Wilson at JT Compher are there for the current squad.

 

[WannabeFinn]

To Edmonton:
Pierre Luc Dubois
Zach Werenski
Josh Anderson
Sergei Bobrovsky
2019 1st

To Columbus:
Connor McDavid
Milan Lucic
Cam Talbot

Columbus gets a star player to shine a light on their team. With Seth Jones, Panarin, Atkinson, Bjorkstrand, Milano, Dubinsky, Foligno, Wennberg, Jenner, etc... Columbus still has a young solid team around McDavid.

Edmonton gets some cap relief. They insert Dubois into their top 6 and build around him/ Draisaitl. Anderson adds muscle and potential scoring touch. Werenski is a young solid addition to the Oilers blue line. Bobrovsky becomes their rock in goal

Panarin-McDavid-Atkinson
Foligno-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand
Lucic-Jenner-Duclair
Milano/Hannikainen-Dubinsky-Nash/Sedlak

Murray-Jones
Nutivaara-Savard
Harrington-Kukan

Talbot
Korpisalo

Surprisingly still a pretty decent roster.. but the combined ~15m per year with term that we would be spending on Lucic/Dubinsky/Nash in our bottom 6 is horrific.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Larkin + Zadina + 2019 1st (likely top 5) + 2020 1st

Given the current state of the Wings, I dunno if it'd even be smart for the them to go that route, probably just become Oilers of the east with the best player in the league with little to no depth around him.

This isn’t close at all.

 

[CupofOil]

A McDavid trade might not help the Oilers but I'm certain that it would help McDavid.

 

[Dog]

A McDavid trade might not help the Oilers but I'm certain that it would help McDavid.

McDavid be smiling as he leaves the sinking ship.

 

[drw02]

This isn’t close at all.

Sure if you think Larkin is a scrub and not a legit 1C

 

[member 290103]

If you recall, Lindros was one of the best players in the league, and he got traded for Steve Duchesne, Peter Forsberg, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, two draft picks, and $15 million. Colorado soon won the cup after that trade.
What would be an equivalent trade for McDavid that would be tempting for both the Oilers and the team acquiring him?

At the time Peter Forsberg was a just a good prospect though....he was not superstar he turned out to be. So an equivalent trade would be another guy that has some "unknown" to him. If you take Forsberg out of that deal and you include instead a 1st round pick that busts, how does the Lindros trade look? Duchense was a good offensive d-man, but Huffman, Ricci, Simon were nothing more than a #4/5 D-man, and a pair of bottom 6 forwards.

Bottom line is that unless McD demands to be traded, the Oilers are better off keeping him.

 

[AuraSphere]

I'd do

Matthews + Nylander for McDavid

I mean the only reason this would happen is if McDavid wanted out

 

[zeke]

To PHI: McDavid
To EDM: 1st, Provorov, Giroux

 

[zeke]

You’re completely out to lunch and totally underestimate what getting McDavid would do for the likes of most of those franchises.

well, what has he done for the oilers franchise?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

well, what has he done for the oilers franchise?

Saved them from finishing 31st overall two years running?

Any idiot should be able to build a team around the best player in the league.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Sure if you think Larkin is a scrub and not a legit 1C

He’s not a scrub, but he’s also not close to good enough to being the centre point for a trade for McDavid.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

How long can the best player on the planet take being on a non-playoff team? The Oilers roster is atrocious, they have no real 1D, below average goaltending, 3 forwards and their prospect pipeline doesn't offer much to be excited before. I expect we'll hear a major rumble at the end of this year that McDavid demands change. He won't demand a trade but he will put them on notice that he's past the point of frustration with the situation.

I posted a poll on Twitter last week asking Sabres fans if they'd trade Eichel for McDavid. 60% said no. Eichel has done everything right in the community and in a city like Buffalo that means a lot. From an Edmonton point of view getting a franchise 1C in Eichel making $2.5M less than McDavid plus Ristolainen or Reinhart wouldn't be bad.

 

[Vyruz Reaper]

I thought about this for a 2nd..... If I was a ryder or die Oiler fan, I woudn't halak trade McDavid ever

 

[drw02]

He’s not a scrub, but he’s also not close to good enough to being the centre point for a trade for McDavid.

He's a 22 years old 1C who will be right around PPG, strong both ways, becoming excellent in FO circle, on a fantastic contract. If he's "not close to being good enough" as a starting point for McDavid then sheesh man. That's about the best starting point you could realistically expect imo. Just don't think you'd be getting a similar value player ala Matthews/Mackinnon back.

McDavid is the best player in the world but even he can't fully compensate for a lack of talent around him.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Honestly if McDavid were to be traded Buffalo and Toronto are the teams they'd need to look to first because it would be Matthews or Eichel coming back.

I absolutely think Toronto would trade Matthews+ for McDavid. Matthews and Kapanen or Nylander. From Edmonton's position the worry would be Matthews probably leaves as a UFA.

 

[drw02]

Honestly if McDavid were to be traded Buffalo and Toronto are the teams they'd need to look to first because it would be Matthews or Eichel coming back.

I absolutely think Toronto would trade Matthews+ for McDavid. Matthews and Kapanen or Nylander. From Edmonton's position the worry would be Matthews probably leaves as a UFA.

Yeah I suppose I could see TOR offering Matthews with McDavid's hometown ties but as you indicate, can't see Matthews signing with EDM and they would obv decline without a long term deal in place

 

[Puckstuff]

Honestly if McDavid were to be traded Buffalo and Toronto are the teams they'd need to look to first because it would be Matthews or Eichel coming back.

I absolutely think Toronto would trade Matthews+ for McDavid. Matthews and Kapanen or Nylander. From Edmonton's position the worry would be Matthews probably leaves as a UFA.

Edmonton would be better with Matthews, Nylander and Johnsson vs only McDaivd with a dump like Lucic imo. But I guess so would Toronto.




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