OT: Coronavirus XXIX: Is This Even the Right Damn Roman Numeral? New Measures to Curb Stomp COVID?

[Drivesaitl]

The restaurant will make sure that masking and distancing are enforced. Your home cannot guarantee that, and likely won't.
And correct on both points.

While I mostly agree, people can take provisions at home, that a restaurant currently cannot do, and most do not do. For instance we have top of the line Merv filter high efficiency furnace. Uses one of the better filters that can be bought anywhere for hvac. We also run a room hepa filtration air recirculator in any room whenre we have had guests.

I haven't heard of one restaurant anywhere focusing on air quality like we are doing at home. So that I'm much better setup to have guests over (of course we won't) than any establishment I know of.

Pretty sure as well that any restaurant or Bar that invested in the above would be telling people about it, none of them are.

I raise these points because restaurants in pandemic concern era, they need to start thinking about such improvements in air quality, without which all the distancing doesn't really prevent infection. Recirculated air, poorly filtered causes infections and countless studies indicating this for several months.

Its been the recommendation for indoor establishments to be using proper air filtration. it was even before this pandemic.

is it time that restaurants and public establishments could care more about the health of their customers. Both on the menu and the air that they breathe?

How is the air we breathe an afterthought to any of these establishments, most of which will sell you filtrated or bottled water, but don't give a toss about the air you breathe or any contagion roaming about.

Even prior to the pandemic so many studies on how indoor air circulation in public facilities really needs to be improved. its not just distancing.

I'll ask anybody. have you ever walked into any establishment, anywhere, and had it posted on the entry what there merv filtration was. essentially what the air quality of that building is?

The Complete Air Filter MERV Rating Chart - Grainger KnowHow

Why is this so overlooked, still, at the end of pandemic 2020?

A reasonable question, we need answers.

 

[bellagiobob]

Is anyone who is advocating for in restaurant dining to be closed arguing against also restricting social gatherings within the home?

This argument seems pointless. It's not an either or scenario.

I lost the plot about 3 threads ago. I'm just jumping in occasionally to keep my place in line.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Repeat after me kids under 10 don't spread disease. All the school cases I've heard of have been from teachers.

The age 5-10 cohort infections are so low its quite clear children are not contracting this, are not developing this, and countless studies they are not transmitting this. Its another thing Kenney got right realizing that there is far less contagion going on amongst kids in Elementary Schools. More of it in Junior High, or High School. Thus allowing Elementary to continue as is. Brilliant decision, not getting enough credit for being precise, and clinical, and actually making decisions based on the data, at least in that instance. .

 

[Drivesaitl]

I lost the plot about 3 threads ago. I'm just jumping in occasionally to keep my place in line.

The plot has been a little bit hatfields and McCoys. I lost most of the plot as well. Just when you seem to know whats going down in one of these threads it hits its post ceiling and time for a new one.

These threads are more exponential than the virus is. They replicate thousands of new posts every week now.

The last thread started Monday morning and maxed by Wednesday afternoon.

Hopefully this thread lasts awhile..

 

[bellagiobob]

Anyone notice how bank stocks are all climbing back up towards all time highs? Kind of a bummer there was no way to get banks to actually make any kind of sacrifice from all this aside from delaying some mortgage payments while people are being destroyed by not being able to pay their loans. Oh well.

I bailed on my bank stocks just before the US election. Turned out to be a brilliant move.

 

[Senor Catface]

In the lab, St. Jude researchers uncover origins of deadly inflammation caused by the novel coronavirus

 

[Raab]

I bailed on my bank stocks just before the US election. Turned out to be a brilliant move.

I'm only up around 35% on them plus dividends if that helps

 

[Three On Zero]

Repeat after me kids under 10 don't spread disease. All the school cases I've heard of have been from teachers.

We've seen 3 kids around that age group test positive for Covid, They've had entire classrooms shut down because of them

 

[bellagiobob]

I'm only up around 35% on them plus dividends if that helps

Not really. I'll wait for the inevitable correction.

 

[soothsayer]

The age 5-10 cohort infections are so low its quite clear children are not contracting this, are not developing this, and countless studies they are not transmitting this. Its another thing Kenney got right realizing that there is far less contagion going on amongst kids in Elementary Schools. More of it in Junior High, or High School. Thus allowing Elementary to continue as is. Brilliant decision, not getting enough credit for being precise, and clinical, and actually making decisions based on the data, at least in that instance. .

Do you have a source for this claim?

 

[Raab]

We've seen 3 kids around that age group test positive for Covid, They've had entire classrooms shut down because of them

And who did they get it from? Was there any transmission in class between kids?

 

[Raab]

Do you have a source for this claim?

Theres research out there, despite what many think.

 

[soothsayer]

Theres research out there, despite what many think.

I ask someone for a source and you assure me there's research. Maybe this is a personal thing, but whenever someone says "there's research," I am immediately skeptical.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Do you have a source for this claim?

Why schools probably aren’t COVID hotspots (nature.com)

Kids, school, and COVID-19: What we know — and what we don’t | AAMC

COVID-19 Transmission and Children: The Child Is Not to Blame | American Academy of Pediatrics (aappublications.org)

Still conflicting views on it. But the 5-10 case counts are very low. Silent spreaders? could be, but theres no proof of that.

But what is known is that most children, this is much like a common cold, they have respiratory infection, but do not appear to dispel viral load the same way as adults or older children.

Being that there is no proof that age 5-10 are spreaders or superspreaders keeping Elementary School open for now makes sense.

Other jurisdictions have seen little difference if Elementary schools ar open or closed in terms of community infection rates.

 

[soothsayer]

Why schools probably aren’t COVID hotspots (nature.com)

Kids, school, and COVID-19: What we know — and what we don’t | AAMC

COVID-19 Transmission and Children: The Child Is Not to Blame | American Academy of Pediatrics (aappublications.org)

Still conflicting views on it. But the 5-10 case counts are very low. Silent spreaders? could be, but theres no proof of that.

But what is known is that most children, this is much like a common cold, they have respiratory infection, but do not appear to dispel viral load the same way as adults or older children.

Being that there is no proof that age 5-10 are spreaders or superspreaders keeping Elementary School open for now makes sense.

Other jurisdictions have seen little difference if Elementary schools ar open or closed in terms of community infection rates.

Thanks. I will check these links out.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

I think those little buggers are silent spreaders. Maybe not as bad as the rest of us, but come on, kids have always been germ factories.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

I think those little buggers are silent spreaders. Maybe not as bad as the rest of us, but come on, kids have always been germ factories.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

5 people a day in B.C. died from an overdose, latest numbers show

 

[Three On Zero]

And who did they get it from? Was there any transmission in class between kids?

Original kid got it from his parent who tested positive, He then transmitted it to the other two

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively donate $500,000 to Covenant House

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

‘It could have been prevented so easily’: disastrous ripple effects of lying about being COVID positive

 

[harpoon]

Just a tip of the hat to @nabob, @Stoneman89 and @Little Fury for the chuckles this afternoon. It’s always good to laugh.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Just a tip of the hat to @nabob, @Stoneman89 and @Little Fury for the chuckles this afternoon. It’s always good to laugh.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Repeat after me kids under 10 don't spread disease. All the school cases I've heard of have been from teachers.

Neither do rats.

 

[Snipes45]

I was on Reddit and seen an Edmonton male with no underlying issues died. He was 40 years old. Some people still think this thing is just fake or the same as the flu.